Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

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I did say interim. Also as I noted, I dont think there's a burning desire for a kingdom in more than possibly symbolic ways. Pahlavi knows this, and he's already stated support for a Westernstyle democracy.

Now, of course he'd be a fool not to - few countries/ peoples would choose a traditional monarchy today, so to arrogate to himself a royal ruler role/ intention would just give people something to fight about. And more cynically, would screw him over personally to alienate the US and the Iranian people - unless he goes power-mad, his best personal path forward is steady steering in a transitional time, letting more qualified people do the lifting, set up infrastructure with a helpful and interested wealthy nation's full support, then hand it off to the people, take a courtesy role, and spend 9 months of the year in Switzerland or wherever he wants to be, coming back now and then for events where it is useful for him to be seen.
idk about that tbh
in the middle east, the monarchies tend to be much more stable and successful than the republics. pahlavi iran itself was doing pretty well overall in the time before the islamic revolution, both in terms of social development (gradual westernisation) and economics.
monarchy in iran has a 3000 year history, throughout the eons the persian monarchy has survived and outlived events that wiped countless other states off the map forever. the pahlavi dynasty is young, but the institution of the monarchy itself has extremely deep roots in that society, whereas democracy would be completely novel and uncharted territory for them.
i could definitely see them doing better under a monarchy (like saudia, qatar, bahrain, kuwait, UAE) than under a republic (like syria, iraq, egypt, yemen)
 
Oh boy another excuse for dune coons to murder my friends and neighbors who couldn't find Iran on a map instead of the kikes responsible, which will in turn be used by the same kikes to drum up support for forever wars conveniently funded by my tax dollars while simultaneously leveraged as fearmongering to push legislation that takes all my rights away.

Real cause for celebration.
I am accepting apologies.
 
Yes I thought it makes sense to continue striking US bases in the region given so many missiles and drones andare getting intercepted on the way to Israel. However, that assessment doesn’t really gel with them having no leadership structure. Maybe the standing orders was just go ham on regional US assets for the reasons listed above. In that case it’s not necessarily followed up by a recalibration because nobody is left to recalibrate.
Its been over 24 hours, and not every high ranking officer has been killed. Iran had plans inplace for coordinating resistance with the US being in physical control of the country, so the fact they still own all the ground means they are definitely adapting.
The ranking generals are likely on constant move, but they are almost certainly giving orders by now. Those orders very likely have long lag times- maybe measured in hours - but the military isn't fully headless. The lower down the chain you go, the better the command to the echelons below should be.

Something else to consider is that Iran promised if the US attacked them they would hit all the gulf states in a retard MAD-by-proxy since they couldn't reach the US. So its possible the switch to short range missiles and drones is part of the "final orders" but I dont' think that's what is going on. It might be individual battery commanders acting on their own initative or on pre-scripted orders but I really doubt it. The Iranians are responding to action in a way that I don't think you could prescript unless there's a Choose-your-own-adventure book or very complex flowchart of orders, and they are doing on close enough timing I think someone is at the wheel just with a very weak grip.

My guess would be Iranian high command is giving orders to division commanders to switch from long to short range missiles to try to delay the inevitable. They are hoping to get the gulf states to turn on the US and pressure the US to a ceasefire.
They are also very likely, as retards in this thread are doing, assuming the US will be tyring to go boots-on-the-gound forgetting there isnt' even the close to enough troops for an invasion in the region and it would likely take a year or more to train and stage sufficient forces. Even if Trump was inclined to do so, which he isn't.

In the video is an M270 firing what I think is an ATACMS? I thought they didn't have the range to strike Iran from nearby bases,
Hi. You must be new to milsperging. Welcome.
As you begin the rewarding trip of milsperging instead of having sex with women, you will learn a cold hard fact:
Turd world countries like Russia, China, Iran, and France will always overstate their platform performance and capabilities, using rigged tests, juiced demonstrators, scrupulously maintained by their most experienced design teams, and sometimes just "well we did math and it says this is possible but we never did it in real life".
BRICS systems will only ever hit their numbers on a good day, down hill, with a tailwind.

The US will always UNDERSTATE platform capabilities. Those numbers are what the system can do when coated in mud, manned by highschool dropouts, beaten up and after being dropped from a C-130 and landing upside down. US systems will always over perform, so this shoudn't shock you they are acking beyond their official listed range.

I'm genuinely surprised at how terrible Iran's AA defenses have been. Considering that air superiority is at the core of U.S military doctrine, you'd think they would've done more to prepare. They genuinely might've been too broke to afford layered Russian systems.

If they can't fill the power vaccum quickly, another jihadist/ extremist faction will just take over again, and nothing will change.
lol. "Shitty soviet AA would have been fine if it had just been layered". lol. Listen to yourself. That is some rich, thick cope. Russian equipment is garbage, I thought we'd all learned this over the past 4 years.

It is unlikely but not impossible that Jihadis fill the vacuum. The people in the streets have had enough of Fundie rule, but its also possible that some "moderate" faction is able to get control and then slow-boil the frog.


You think you hate the Lugenpresse but you don't hate them enough.

A thought occurred to me.

It looked like Iran’s attacks on hotels and the like were just random acts of desperate violence. However there are reports that there were very few US personnel at bases likely to be targeted in retaliation.

Could it be Iranian intelligence was aware of this and strikes on hotels were attempts to target American personnel? Or am I giving them too much credit?
lol.
Lets pretend this is true, and Iran isn't just being typical muslims and violently chimping out at everyone in range. it is still a ridiculously bad look to be acking civilian hotels in neutral 3rd party countries that have declared they will not allow strikes from their territory.

It breaks my heart to see the A-10 getting Iran sorties in 2026 without the AV8B by her side.
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"Rest, Brother. I will red mist enough muslims for both of us"

Few of Russia's aircraft are true stealth fighters
NONE of Russia's aircraft are stealth fighters. They do not have good ECM packages. The Su-57 has the radar cross section of a Leer jet because they haven't been able to make the final version of the engines, so it was a cross grill holding in the temporary shakedown engines. This means all the geometry and questionable utility and wear-life coating - which is perportedly starting to peel from some of the ones Russia managed to make - is uttery worthless with the returns.
Addtionally the vector nozzles are not properly heat shielded (see: temporary engine), so they glow white-hot for IR seekers.

Problems that might be fixable, but then you still have completely shit soviet avionics to deal with.
 
I imagine the approval numbers will start going up from here since everyone loves success.
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Something else to consider is that Iran promised if the US attacked them they would hit all the gulf states in a retard MAD-by-proxy since they couldn't reach the US. So its possible the switch to short range missiles and drones is part of the "final orders"
The Samson Option only works if you have nukes. Otherwise it's just impotent flailing.
 
F-117 is a complete non-sequitur. It's not even relevant to todays L/O tech, back then it was shaped based, today it's coating based + electronic jamming and spoofing.
Shape still plays a huge role, it's just that our understanding of it and just as importantly the tools we have to simulate it are far beyond what they were then, so you don't have to completely gimp your airframe to get results. Yet another thing that GPU compute is good at...
The food is coming on the rockets, duh.
 
Statement from Trump:



Over the past 36 hours, the United States and its partners have launched Operation Epic Fury, one of the largest, most complex, most overwhelming military offensives the world has ever seen. Nobody's seen anything like it. We have hit hundreds of targets in Iran, including Revolutionary Guard facilities, Iranian air defense systems. Just now, It was announced that we knocked out nine ships, plus their naval building, all in a matter of literally minutes. Iran's formerly supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, is dead. This wretched and vile man had the blood of hundreds and even thousands of Americans on his hands and was responsible for the slaughter of countless thousands of innocent people all across many countries. Last night, all over Iran, the voices of the Iranian people could be heard cheering and celebrating in the streets when his death was announced. The entire military command is gone as well, and many of them want to surrender into saving their lives. They want immunity. They're calling by the thousands.
Combat operations continue at this time in full force, and they will continue until all of our objectives are achieved. We have very strong objectives. They could have done something two weeks ago, but they just couldn't get there.


Earlier today, CENTCOM shared the news that three U.S. military service members have been killed in action. As one nation, we grieve for the true American patriots who have made the ultimate sacrifice for our nation. Even as we continue the righteous mission for which they gave their lives, we pray for the full recovery of the wounded and send our immense love and eternal gratitude to the families of the fallen. And sadly, there will likely be more. Before it ends, that's the way it is. Likely be more, but we'll do everything possible where that won't be the case. But America will avenge their deaths and deliver the most punishing blow to the terrorists who have waged war against basically civilization. They have waged war against civilization itself. Our resolve, and likewise that of Israel, has never been stronger. America is now, again, the richest, most powerful nation in the world, by far. But the only reason we enjoy the quality of life that we do and the freedom and security is we have done things that others are unable to do. But it's because of warriors who are willing to lay down their lives to do battle with our enemies. and they do battle better than anybody. An Iranian regime armed with long-range missiles and nuclear weapons would be a dire threat to every American. We cannot allow a nation that raises terrorist armies to possess such weapons. It would allow them to extort the world to their evil will. We're not going to let it happen. We're not happening to us, and we're not going to let it happen to others.



The United States has the strongest military the world has ever seen. I rebuilt our military in my first term. There's never been a military like we possess. And, frankly, there's nobody even close. But we are now using that military for good. We want to have it for good purpose. We're undertaking this massive operation not merely to ensure security for our own time and place, but for our children and their children, just as our ancestors have done for us many, many years ago. This is the duty and the burden of a free people.


These actions are right and they are necessary to ensure that Americans will never have to face a radical, bloodthirsty terrorist regime armed with nuclear weapons and lots of threats. For almost 50 years, these wicked extremists have been attacking the United States while chanting the slogan "Death to America" or "Death to Israel" or both. They are the world's number one state sponsor of terror. We are the world's greatest and most powerful nation, so we can do something about what they do. These intolerable threats will not continue any longer. I once again urge the Revolutionary Guard, the Iranian military, police to lay down your arms and receive full immunity or face certain death. It will be certain death. Won't be pretty. I call upon all Iranian patriots who yearn for freedom to seize this moment to be brave, be bold, be heroic, and take back your country. America is with you. I made a promise to you, and I fulfilled that promise. The rest will be up to you, but we'll be there to help. Thank you. God bless you to our incredible warriors, and God bless the United States of America. Thank you.
 
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