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We really are just going to have a civil war at this point, aren't we? You could not convince me out of hating child molesters and my response to a pedophile molesting a child in my family or of a close friend with impunity because that's suddenly allowed would probably be to go and eliminate the problem myself so like, we really are just going to end up with law abiding citizens that have never committed a crime committing murders because that's what happens when people are just allowed to fuck with their kids.
 
The bill proposed removing the following line from the definition: “’Sexual orientation’ does not include a physical or sexual attachment to children by an adult.”
What a fucking lie. The line before that is the relevant one. This was removed on purpose so when one of them ends up in court they can argue this shit instead of a judge dismissing their pedo crimes at face value. He knows they can't just legalize pedophilia so they're opting for the slow creep.
>Xitter dogpiles you for misgendering a rapist
"You wouldn't misgender a cis person if they were rapists!!!"
Sorry tranny, but his is always been the case. Women do the analogue of this by calling them faggots to emasculate them literally all the time. And rightfully so. Troon rapists deserve even less consideration.
 
We really are just going to have a civil war at this point, aren't we? You could not convince me out of hating child molesters and my response to a pedophile molesting a child in my family or of a close friend with impunity because that's suddenly allowed would probably be to go and eliminate the problem myself so like, we really are just going to end up with law abiding citizens that have never committed a crime committing murders because that's what happens when people are just allowed to fuck with their kids.
What the fuck is wrong with you fucking cunt?
 
>Troon rapes your sister
>Troon transitions
>You still call the rapist a "he"
>Xitter dogpiles you for misgendering a rapist
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How does anyone take these people seriously? It's just as insane as the people who were correcting Chris Chan's pronouns. "UM EXCUSE YOU, IT'S SHE* AND CHRISTINE*, SHE**** RAPED HER ELDERLY MOTHER".
These are not serious people. Anyone who tries to defend a rapist or killer's pronouns is not someone worth listening too
 
Minnesota is a circus. Who is voting for these people? Better yet, was anyone told that a creepy transvestite became a representative or did he just spawn out of the aether?
He spawned from Satan's hell just to rape kids. With the only cure being a exorcism technique called "Tottal Tranny Nigger Death!".
 
A woman copes with being a woman by sexualizing the shame and embarrassment some men feel towards having modestly sized man-meat. I've always found fetishists and kinksters a rather puzzling cohort of people, but I don't even know how you get off to something where you literally do not even have the anatomy to experience it. Maybe I've touched grass too often to relate to such a sentiment?
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Kinda developed a sph kink as a cope but I'm glad I did

Okay so I wouldn't describe my kink as "humiliation" really but sph is just a more popular term for ya know, deriving some kinda pleasure from knowingly having a small dick. After I bottomed anally for the first time I had a little bit of a crisis, not because I didn't have a good time but the opposite. I enjoyed it a lot and it made me realize that I really did want bottom surgery, and that was very scary to me because I had been trying to repress that desire for a long time, due to the cost on finances, time, and the body. Just everything tbh. At that time I really wanted phalloplasty, and didn't think metoidioplasty would give me a satisfactory result because of size. I scheduled a phalloplasty consult not long after. In the interim between that experience and the consult, I discovered a subreddit called r/smalldickfitbody that honestly changed everything for me. I don't quite know what it was but seeing that kind of body framed as desirable really made something click in my head and I just thought "that's the goal" immediately. Must be something to do with the fact that I'm definitely a major gymrat already.
There's not really a conclusion to this. I had my phalloplasty consult after I had my revelation and told the surgeon I was leaning more towards metoidioplasty, don't want to go much into detail about that but I essentially concluded that I will be pursuing meta, and I'm encouraged by knowing that if someone has meta, it's going to make it easier to perform phallo in the future anyway, but I think, at least for a while, I'll be really happy with meta. Not sure why I'm posting, just felt like sharing I guess and I'm curious if anyone else feels similarly because I almost never see ftm men with sph kinks.
A TiF is devastated upon learning that she has Factor V Leiden, a genetic mutation that leads to higher likelihood of developing issues with blood clots, and that her doctor advises against any and all forms of medical transition ranging from HRT to surgical intervention. Because TiFs are insane and seem determined to have one another die painful yet preventable deaths, commenters reject the doctor's notion of reality and substitute it with their own, saying that the doctor straight up lied to OP about the severity of this condition and recommending that OP defies her doctor's recommendation so she can live out her proper life as a man. So which is it: are you valid without medical transition or not? They can never decide!
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I need advice on to deal with being genetically unable to transition

Excuse my english, its not my first language
Since i was a tween (12/13) Ive been exploring my gender identity, taking the conclussion when i was 14 that I was a transgender man (FtM) My envioroment has mostly been supportive of this, when i was in highschool (13 to 16 yo) it was respected by my online friends even if other peers and teachers refused to do so, once I entered college ( ages 16 to 18) and foward it was very accepted and celebrated by peers, friends and teachers so even if my family is very traditional and non supportive, I really cant complain about my social enviroment.
Nowadays I'm soon to be 20 in a couple of months, I thought of actually going a step foward and try to start my hormone therapy to feel better with my dysphoria, so before actually getting anything done I knew I had to do a genetic study since I have previous knowledge of my family having genetic alterations and everything, to me it was just a small precaution to have, I took some heavy bloodtests a month ago and the result came today, the doctor requested to see me at her office.
The results came well except the fact I have a a mutation in the F5 gene, meaning i have an inherited blood clotting disorder which gives me a very high risk of getting trombophilia and pulmonary embolism if I go further with my medical transition. My doctor has advised me not to go through any surgeries or hormonal treatments
This has been the ultimate worse case scenarion I could have gotten ever in my life, I'm stuck with a body I will never feel comfortable with.
I don't know how to deal with these news specially in this political climate having less and less access to trans healthcare and having to be refered as a woman for the rest of my life. Do I have to give up now? I really need advice I was wondering if anyone had this happening to them, I feel very lost right now and don't know what to do with my life anymore
thanks for reading
A shady pervert who likely dreams of wearing his mother's skin like a fine linen wants to learn from other breast-leaking beastmen that lurk Reddit about how he, too, can induce "lactation" - but it's important that this remains a secret from Mommy Dearest for reasons he refuses to disclose.
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How do I induce lactation discreetly?

For a while now I have wanted to be able to lactate, since it would be very gender affirming for me and I have always wanted to know what it would feel like. I still live with my mum however (she is thankfully supportive of my transition), and I would rather her not know that I am trying to get myself to lactate. I have heard the process to induce lactation can be quite time intensive and take quite a while to achieve. I also do want to mess up my breast development, which has unfortunately been quite slow (They're still quite small and have only been on and off puffy for the last couple of months. I am almost 2 years on HRT)
So, how do I go about inducing lactation? How do I hide it? And will it negatively affect my breast development?
Though barely literate and seemingly having spent the last decade living in a dank pit, a man in a dress theorizes that all of the current political buzzwords are actually secretly code for a phenomenon he labels "trans derangement syndrome," which most people would classify these days as "a reasonable distrust of foxes that demand entrance into henhouses."
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Trans derangement syndrome is real

MAGA loves to bring up Trump derangement syndrome but they all have major Trans derangement syndrome.
DOGE = Trans mice
tariffs = these countries support Trans people

Border security = people are trying to get over the border for Trans surgeries
Prisions = Trans prisoners what free Trans Healthcare or to hurt cis women
Bathrooms = Trans perverts
Schools = Trans indoctrination factories
News = Trans propaganda
Hollywood = also trans propaganda
Guns = Trans terrorists
Mental health = Trans agenda
Fact checking the president = Trans women aren't women "it's basic biology"
Freedom = pronouns are against my free speech
If you talk or debate a republican it will almost always go back to trans people. They have Trans derangement syndrome.
A woman seeks out guidance from the predators of Reddit on how she can assist in her young sister's worsening poonacy without their mother being aware of it. Notably, only just last year was OP trying to figure out how to discuss the tender subject of menstruation with her, which makes me think that OP's little sister is having a real rough go of puberty. How unfortunate it must be to have a handmaiden to shepherd you through such a tumultuous time!
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My younger sibling (15 years old) wants a chest binder but doesn't want our mom to know. I would like to help, any advice?

My younger sibling (AFAB, uses all pronouns but I'll use they/them since they only hear feminine pronouns at home and school) wants a chest binder. They do not want our mom to know. I do not live with them, I'm 20+ years older but I do live nearby and am willing to help out.
FWIW I'm not really sure why they don't want our mom to know. Our mom is not transphobic to my knowledge. One of my friends is trans and my mom knew him pre-transition and had no issues changing pronouns or names for him.
My sibling came out as a lesbian several years back and our mom took that really well (even asked me to buy a pride flag for them) but when they said they wanted to use they/them pronouns later on (they've since said any pronouns as long as you don't just stick to the same ones all the time), our mom really struggled with that change. I'm not sure if it's just because it's different or if it's the pronouns themselves. Maybe the fact that our mom kept screwing up the pronouns makes them feel like she won't accept them wanting a binder.
Anyway, I've done some research into chest binders and it seems as though there's a time limit to how long they should be worn (8-10 hours). I think they plan on only wearing it at school so that should work for the time limit.
The problem is going to come from taking it home from school to wash it. Their washer and dryer are in the kitchen and they are front loaders with doors you can see through. If our mom happens to see it then it might become a question of what is this, where did it come from, etc. I'm not really worried about taking the blame or anything on my end but I'm worried that it may be a bad experience for my sibling.
They are shy and sensitive so even just being questioned about this might be triggering even if our mom is not angry at all.
I was considering maybe getting some of the TomboyX compression tops (after speaking with my sibling, of course) because they look just like sports bras (so I could openly give them to my sibling and they wouldn't have to hide that they have them) but they aren't really a real binder.
Are there any other brands that have binders that look like a sports bra? I'll pay whatever it costs.
Or do you have an alternative ideas for how to make sure the binder gets washed without our mom finding out?
Any and all advice is welcome. I just want my sibling to be happy and comfortable in their own skin.
Uh oh, farmers, this troon has finally presented the ultimate transphobia takedown! His arguments are so flawless, so perfect, there's no way this isn't a silver bullet into the heart of anti-transgender rhetoric; once this gets out, we'll all have to go back to worshiping the girlcock, so we should all be ready to kiss freedom of speech and child safety goodbye forever now that there's nothing we can say to the contrary.
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How to counter anti-trans arguments:

You may have encountered anti-trans people that say your DNA and other biological things proves that you're what you were born as, male or female, and that being trans is a mental disease.
Counter it with exactly what they want. Science and medical research.

Open this link: https://imgur.com/a/EoDOciO
Those studies are related to both genders but that link is about transwomen altho both have the same studies.
Just reply with "there are scientific and medical studies that proves that a transgender is an actual cis gender of what they identify with, so a transman is a real cis man with a woman's private parts and vise versa." - provide the research links.

And mention this: In May 2019, the World Health Organization (WHO) officially announced that being transgender is no longer classified as a mental disorder. In the ICD-11 (International Classification of Diseases, 11th Revision)
Top it off with "there are gay animals too like the penguins, and did u know that clownfish change genders to mate?"
Add some sugar into the argument: "So your God created gay, trans and bi people and animals, will you stop worshipping God? That would make you a hypocrite"

I hope this helps you win arguments.
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A FTM who identifies as a bear - so in her case, she's probably a portly woman with hirsuitism - finds more acceptance among degenerate men who will stick their dicks in anything than with women who are doing the female equivalent of prison gay until they find their holy grail guy and can leave T4T behind forever.
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On desirability and acceptance as a gay hairy trans bear

I'm curious if anyone else relates. I am not 100 percent sure if it's also in person as my access to niche communities has been limited. But both online and irl I haven't found spaces that are "trans male focused" welcoming or positive.
I'm a passing masc hairy bear and even when I was not passing, I didn't feel that the trans community fully understood and accepted me. I haven't ever participated in a trans masc or trans male only space in person, but even online for example when it's connected to sexual things; like a subreddit or online space focused about trans men (t4t or catering to queer people with cis men) I generally am overlooked or targeted by chasers; and when these chasers who ID as straight or bi/pan actually see me or talk to me more they realise I'm not gonna give them their fantasy cause I don't fit their beauty standards or fetish stereotype of an "ftm". In the past I did but that's no longer the case and it's super evident. Especially since I don't want PiV sex. When it comes to other trans guys, a lot of the time we aren't compatible due to our differences in sexual preferences so I haven't had a good experience yet, in terms of hooking up physically especially.
However, my experience with the gay male bear community has been a huge contrast. There, I get overwhelmingly positive and affirming attention that doesn't feel objectifying. I'm treated like a man and my boundaries are usually respected. My body is embraced; my body type, hairiness, and masculinity are seen as positive and desirable, rather than an after thought or something to be tolerated. It's been interesting cause I realise I identify more with them than many fellow trans guys. I am hoping that in the future I can have a partner who is a bear or otter and loves bears too. I have previously dated guys who never fully embraced me. I no longer want to be a second choice or tolerated; I deserve better and I hope that my dream comes true.
A TiM admits that his perversion runs deep; so deep, in fact, that signs of his degeneracy could be traced back to remorselessly violating his high school sweetheart's privacy. This is why it's vital that we teach kids at an early age to not be fucking freaks!
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Was anybody else envious of their gf’s boobs and body in HS?

She was my first and I couldn’t help having these thoughts and feelings. Later on she and her sister caught me trying on her bikini.!lol
For some strange reason, this tranny assumes that women walk around downright gravid with the presence of their uterus even outside of heavy menstrual cycles and pregnancy; this delusion has him so devastatingly envious that he's even debating getting a psuedouterus installed just to feel "something" there instead of "a void." But for those who do not peruse the SRS thread, know that PPV - penile-preserving vaginoplasty, or getting a hole carved under your cock where your sack used to be - is pretty universally only desired by the most batshit of the crazies, so OP has a lot of things going wrong in the petri dish of retardation he calls a brain.
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Does anyone else struggle with 'phantom womb' dysphoria?

Hi everyone. Lately, I’ve been dealing with a really specific and intense kind of dysphoria. I catch myself thinking, 'Why isn't there a uterus in my belly?' and I feel this deep, physical aching for an organ I never had.It’s gotten to the point where I’m planning my PPV (Penile-Preserving Vaginoplasty) and I’ve seriously considered asking if I could have a silicone decoy uterus implanted inside, just to feel like there's something there instead of a void. I know it sounds medically unnecessary, but emotionally, I just want to feel 'full' and complete.Has anyone else felt this desperate need to physically fill that space? How do you overcome the sadness of missing internal organs? Any advice or shared stories would mean the world to me.
A clueless li'l cissy wanders into the lion's den of r/asktransgender and asks the pride what they wish those unlike them would understand about them. Let's see what these brave and valiant soldiers have to say about their lives on the battlefields of their bodies!
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What's something you wish cis people would at least attempt to understand?

I'm cis and have no idea what is like to go through the journey and I never will. But I can at least try to learn and then go from there
[–]girlgamer42060
Denying a trans kid transition is the same level of moral harm as forcibly transitioning a cis kid.
This is probably one of the most important things I wish cis people would understand. Because if they got this they'd necessarily get a lot more.
Its frustrating because so many policies and positions are inherently middle ground positions.​
Why should a 13 year old trans girl be put on puberty blockers instead of bering able to go through the same puberty as her peers via hrt? Because thats what Cis people comfortable with, but even that "pause" is a bridge to far for people who want to force them through puberty in order to detrans them.​
A lot of cis people still aren't comfortable with that. And a lot don't understand the difference between puberty blockers hrt. It's so frustratingly ignorant​

People just don't trust kids for some reason. It's always "oh, what if they change their mind?" Well what if they don't?
People tend to see kids as property to their guardians. They love using that argument for lgbtqia+ kids like they're all going to snap out of it one day . I spent a good chunk of my life living in the closet for that argument (still frustrated I lost that time of my life)​

(PICKLE NOTE: There was some sort of heated argument around this thread that has a lot of removed comments (as troons despise any sort of dissent from doctrine), so I highly recommend visiting the archive link to take a peek. If you're not interested in doing the digging yourself, some highlights include denying that children are being operated on despite evidence to the contrary, blatant and vicious hostility towards people asking questions about transgenderism in a sub dedicated to questions about transgenderism, a detailed explanation about how blockers should be started at "Tanner Stage 2" which is a measurement of a girl's breasts as she goes through puberty and the grim implication that if kids can realize they are male or female at 3 or 4, that's when the time to begin "social transition" is. Downvoters, you know what to do!)

[–]glasswings363
When cis people do horrible evil things we're not allowed to poop all over their gender identities so please give trans people the same respect.
There's literal Nazi scum in the current news cycle and people who won't talk about her tattoo but will misgender her are saying that it's okay to be Nazi and not okay to be trans.
That story is tragic but also (should be) illuminating.​
It's just more evidence that being trans isn't "woke ideology" or a partisan thing. It's a human thing. There are trans people all across the political spectrum; your politics don't make you immune to dysphoria.
It's just that when it comes to identity, one side advocates for liberty and acceptance while the other is for coerced repression.​
Exactly. I'd be willing to say that one of the biggest reasons trans people are more likely to be left-leaning is because the right-wing is shitting on our human rights so hard. Hell, I know a trans woman who is a dyed in the wool Republican, she openly calls herself a right-winger, posts GOP propaganda about every other marginalized group... but votes for Democrats because the GOP is actively targeting trans people's human rights.

[–]pktechboi
that HRT does actually change our physical bodies in every way, it isn't just something that makes us feel better (though that is a common effect of course). trans women actually do grow breasts the same way cis women do, for example. trans men's blood is thicker, like cis men's, so our risk of heart related problems is higher. hundreds of things like this. transition changes our sex, is what I am saying here.

As a trans woman, I call myself biologically female just to drive this point home. HRT isn't a surface level drizzle of gender juice. It's medication that changes you from the biochemical level up, often in medically relevant ways.
Fr, cissies wanna throw around the term "biological gender" a gotcha when trans people change their biology via GAC. I have boobs now and my endocrine system is basically akin to a cis women's, to the point that my hormone cycle matches almost identically to my cis woman family members. After only a bit over a year on HRT, I am far closer to a cis woman than a cis man
There is some evidence that suggests there is a neurological component to being trans that occurs even before medical transition happens. If that's true, it means we may actually have brains wired for our actual gender, not our gender assigned at birth. And that is a biological trait. That's part of our "biological sex".

[–]snoodle77777
The gender dysphoria exists. I get the sense they don't believe that anything about us, are mental health and our dysphoria and Euphoria actually exist it's all made up in our mind according to them, like what color clothing we want to wear. They totally don't understand why trans people have a high rate of suicide or why we take HRT or get surgeries. They think we just want to chop off body parts for no reason

[–]TooLateForMeTF
The main thing I wish they'd try to understand is "other people being happy doesn't hurt you, even if they're doing it in a way you don't understand, so you can f*cking relax about it."

[–]Ziggy_Stardust567
Growing up as the wrong gender, then going through the incorrect puberty can be very traumatic for some trans people and cis people just refuse to acknowledge it.
If you presented them with a situations where a cisgender girl started developing as a man, they can understand why thats traumatic, but if you give them the exact same analogy except the cisgender girl is a transgender girl, you'll be told that you're being dramatic and you just need to suck it up.

Even most allies just refuse to acknowledge it.

[–]EventualDonkey
That high school biology isn't adequate at describing sex and gender. Basically:
  • 1. trans people don't have an innate advantage in sports.
  • 2. Sex and gender are not binary and are more accurately described as a spectrum just like every other aspect of biology.
  • 3. Sex is not immutable, and can be influenced by a variety of factors such as menopause and HRT.

[–]Sofie-SoFly
can i say something I don’t see people talk about that much?
I don’t love cis actors playing trans characters. There’s something wrongheaded about seeing Jared Leto or Jeffrey Tambor accept awards for their portrayal of a transperson as a man. I feel like it adds to the notion of transitioning as a character or something one can put on or take off. That there’s really a man under the makeup or the inverse, you know?
I think it’s a step back for how cis ppl see us if their exposure is mostly from media

I personally haven't seen too many trans movies so I could change my mind. But thinking about it, I think that my problem would more be with men playing trans women or women playing trans men, rather than specifically with cis people playing trans people.
Like, generally speaking I'd say autistic characters should be played/written by autistic people, but some of the best autistic representation I've seen on screen doesn't fit that bill, so it's just a question of how well it's done. And a cis man playing a trans women is inherently misunderstanding trans people because it portrays us as "men who think theyre women". Having a cis women play a trans women but pretend to be a man for the first part of the story is more accurate to the trans experience.
yeah this for me absolutely. A cis woman playing a well written trans women would not bother me at all, but a cis man doing so no matter how good will feel fucked to me. same thing the other way round a cis man playing a trans man can absolutely work but not a cis woman.
A cis woman playing a trans woman is way more accurate than a cis man playing a trans woman. But you're still right, best case scenario would be a trans person.​

[–]dx713
So many! let's see...
  • Trans men are men
  • Trans women are women
  • There is no transgender hive mind, only persons, trans persons are as varied as cis persons
  • corollary: trans persons can be gay or straight (or ace or bi or pan or all over the LGBTQIA+ rainbow) like cis people
  • Identity is complicated, let people choose their own labels and do not try to force them into boxes (exemple: did you know there are he/him lesbians taking testosterone but who do not identify as men?)
  • Being trans doesn't necessary mean you want to hormonally or surgically transition (and no, you are not entitled to know about that anymore than you would about anyone else's medical history)
  • The suicide rate is actually for trans persons WITHOUT a social environment supportive of their identity
  • There is no "biological males" or "biological females". Until the singularity is upon us, we are all biological beings anyway. And medically, the body of a trans person on hormonal therapy is actually closer to the body of a cis person of their identity.
  • Nothing is binary, life always finds in-between and exceptions
  • No you cannot "always tell"
  • Trying to control who is a woman is NOT protecting women, it is actually enforcing patriarchal control of how a woman should look and act
  • No, trans women have no "male socialisation" privilege, rather "faggot victimisation" more than often (and no physical sport advantage past a reasonable time on hormones)
  • Most people do not even know what kind of chromosomes they have, you could be intersex without knowing
And I'm going to stop there because I'm becoming long winded and you only asked for one, but based on the things I have to explain during family dinners, all those are must-know.
Ask for clarification if any of those are unclear.
EDIT: you do not have to feel dysphoria to be trans, but if you want a good explanation about what dysphoria is, have a look there: https://genderdysphoria.fyi/en/

[–]LanaofBrennis
That people smarter than the average bear, who study trans related topics for a living, and have access to way wider sample sizes than the average cis person post findings all the time; please base your opinion on that research and not what some podcaster says.
For example: the raging debate of sports advantage of trans women. Every study I have read basically concludes that if a trans woman is on hrt for 2 years, her average performance scores are so close to a cis woman's they not worth thinking about; by 3 years they are identical. This is what people who study this for a living are saying. However for some reason cis people just keep saying the same things, which have been disproven, and cant base their opinion on anything other than their highschool level biology education.

[–]PoggleRebecca
"Biological sex" is hormones and we've been able to change those for a hundred years.

[–]Mayorhany
That every biological definition of women either excludes some people who are women (whether cis or trans) or includes some people who are not, same for men. That "basic biology" is basic, often oversimplified/misleading, and that as adults we should be able to understand that if (advanced) biology (the fact in question being used as reasoning for hate) disproves something, maybe you should rethink your motivation, and maybe you should realise that you just hate us without factual reason.
That no matter what causes being transgender, why should "curing" it (becoming cis) be the first thing that comes to mind? The majority of our self hate is because of society's perception of us. Pretending to be cis makes us so miserable, and being who we are has the potential (without so much hate) to be so positive. Why force us to be miserable just because of a perception that you have?
Even if a trans person were to be transgender because of trauma, why try forcing them to be cis, just because you think an hypothetical version of that person might have been? Why make them miserable over a hypothetical version, when you have the actual version telling you that they have finally found a way to hurt less (one that does no harm to anyone)?
That by brewing hate so much, these transphobes have made it so that quality, gender-involved therapy cannot be accessed by those who need it (both cis and trans), which is actually what leads to cis detransitioners, and trans people having regrets over getting surgeries. It isn't because of trans people promoting being your true self, it's because these transphobes tell them that they aren't even trying to be their gender, that nobody will ever think of them as their gender due to their bodies, and that nobody cares about them.
Self-exploration is something that everyone does, and that everyone needs. It is not "embarrassing," it is normal, and if you think that your child is "embarrassing" you by being themself, then you need therapy. If you don't work through that personal issue, then you cannot be surprised if they cut off contact later on.
That person you knew isn't dead, they are right in front of you. They are giving you the opportunity to see themself without the mask. If you turn away from them, then you are proving that you never really loved them, you loved what they did for you.
Medical transitioning is not necessary to be trans, and stopping hormones is not always detransitioning (don't assume). Saying that medical transitioning is necessary to "prove trans identities" or to be trans is trying to erase not only a large amount of binary trans people, but most nonbinary ones as well.
Just to clarify, "you" not meaning OP, but the transphobes. Not sure if what I'm saying is the most clear, but I thought I'd leave a comment.

[–]NobodySpecial2000
I thought of another one I'd really like cis people to understand.
Trans women aren't suddenly demanding access to women's bathrooms and women's sports and expecting special treatment. Trans women have already been playing women's sports and been using women's bathrooms and joining women's organisations for decades. Nobody complained. Nobody cared. This idea that we're "invading" is completely manufactured and based on lies.
When transphobes say they're fighting for "the right of women to keep their single sex spaces" what they're actually demanding is "spaces that exclude trans people" and they have NEVER had a right to that. Ever.

[–]JasmineStarshine
That we desperately, desperately want to be left alone.

[–]Dry-Supermarket1105
That acceptance and understanding are two different things. Acceptance comes before understanding.

[–]HaringMeisje
That hormonal profile is essentially the entire difference between what they call "biological sex". They really have no clue how much HRT transforms the physical body inside and out.

[–]CatboyBiologist
My day to day reality is that of a woman. The fact that I'm trans doesn't make me less of a woman, or mean the world treats me like less of one. I'm not sitting here in this cycle, putting on a costume every day, constantly stewing in my transgenderness. There's no theatrics. I just am a woman, no actually, like completely, no asterisks. I'm affected by misogyny, I'm welcomed into the sisterhood, I navigate my friendships and romantic pursuits as a woman. I put in a lot of active effort at first, but now this is just how I live and how the world treats me, even if you try to deny it. I don't even fully "pass" per se(or I only started somewhat recently), I just don't look like a caricature of a man in a dress. My life is that if an astoundingly boring woman just trying to get by in the world. The main times I'm reminded I'm trans are when transphobic fuckery happens, and if that stopped happening, I'd stop "shoving it in your face". In my experience, society treats me like a woman intrinsically, but only consciously denies my womanhood for the purposes of transphobia. If people chilled the fuck out, they'd realize that none of this needs to be a big deal.

[–]Mozzyo_
Not so much for them to understand, but to correct a misunderstanding: no, not all trans people are sensitive raging snowflakes that will get furious over the slightest pronoun misuse. More than a few times someone has found out I was trans and was immediately terrified of slipping up, and I had to reassure them that I wasn't going to be mad at them at all if they made a mistake. Uncomfortable maybe, but not mad.
Many trans people just want to get by. We are not going to seethe and scream about you slipping up, many of us are very understanding and passive. We just want to live.

One of my friends has this fear. That if he accidentally misgenders a trans person they'll tear him a new one. He said it's unfair that trans people get to lash out.
I explained that it's not actually that common. But also explained why it can happen. "If you accidentally call a trans woman 'sir' that's a single mistake from you. But it could be the 50th time that day she's been called 'sir'. If you spent every day with random people occasionally stepping on your toes, at some point you're going to snap"​

[–]astrocrass
I wish more cis people tried to recognize, imagine, or even induce gender dysphoria, so they understood better, because (some) cis people get it too (or can be “made” to).
When we rave, all the boys paint their nails but my then partner, and I’d help. My partner was happy to see the other boys do it, just extremely not interested himself (idc it’s your body dude). It wasn’t even that it was “for girls,” it was for girls and enbies and also different kinds of boys than he was. But one of the other boys talked him into letting me doing it once.
We only made it through one hand, because he freaked out. It felt bad, it felt awful, he hated looking at his body like that, it felt WRONG, get it off get it off get it OFF. And we had nothing to get it off so he had to deal with it for a couple days, and it bothered him the whole time.
At some point I went “yeah man, that’s gender dysphoria. My whole life is full of things like that. And I mostly can’t just take it off.” He just got a look on his face and went “that’s the worst one. You’ve told me a lot of shitty things that have happened in your life, and that’s the most horrifying one” and started to cry, and we just sat there for a while.
He was already so supportive before that, but he understood better after. And it also allowed him to recognize gender euphoria in himself, so he could share in that joy with me more too. More cis people should be like that.

[–]Canadian_Eevee
I wish more cis people knew how high the risk of rape is for trans women and trying to force them to go into male spaces is only raising the risk of SA that much higher. The sad thing is I know many of them wouldn't care even if they knew.

[–]NobodySpecial2000
I wish cis people would understand that trans people across the world aren't in a frenzy and losing their shit because some celebrities posted some mean tweets about them or a few commedians have made mean-spirited unfunny jokes.
We're angry and afraid and tired because we are facing an actual campaign of genocide.
There are real political efforts being pushed by real people with real influence and funded by real billionaires to strip us of legal recognition AND protection, deprive us of healthcare, criminalise our existence, and *AT BEST* force us back into the closet forever. People like Hillary Cass have said that their goal is making being trans so difficult and so socially damning that nobody will choose to transition. Conservative politicians have actively called for the erradication of "transgenderism". We are constantly being villified in the media leading to increased public support for our erradication and implicitly condoning violence against us. Its literally stochastic terrorism against us.
We are not making mountains out of mole hills. We are not overreacting. The only reason what they're trying to do to us doesn't count as a genocide by the UN's definition is that the UN definition only applies to "national, ethnical, racial, or religious" groups.

[–]Quat-fro
We're actually doing the sanest thing by transitioning.

[–]LaRaeOfTheVoid
I knew at 5 years old. I KNEW. I told my mother a hundred times that I didn’t want to grow into a man, I voiced my dysphoria again and again and she would just pat me on the head and say “don’t worry, you can be whatever you want to be!”
I’m 24. I was born in 2001. It’s not like this was the 80’s.
Male puberty was body horror. Literally horrifying. I grew into everything I knew I wasn’t and I suffered so much I depersonalized.
If I’d had gender affirming care I think my life would be infinitely better. Instead I’m a 6’4 mountain with a deep voice that suffers day in day out.
GAC for kids is lifesaving medicine.


[–]Spacegirl-Alyxia
I wish cis people understood that what a trans kid is going through when denied transition is equivalent to forced transition, social, hormonal and surgical on a cis kid. It is torturous.
I also would want cis people to understand, that because of me being trans, I have no happy memories of my childhood. A happy or nice memory implies it is worthy of being relived. Any moment I would hop back to in time I would arrive in a moment where I would be horrified at my body again. There is no single memory of my childhood that I like to remember. Every second of it was torture.
I want cis people to understand this, because people claim, that I as a trans woman somehow had male privilege and could experience joys or nice things, that other women couldn't. As someone who has almost been murdered, almost bled out, survived a car burn, had been flown into hospital after an accident, I would gladly take all of these experiences and experience them all another 10 times if it meant I could have a period, be able to get pregnant and experience pregnancy scares and share common memories with cis women of being groomed or otherwise sexually harassed early on in order to relate to these struggles.

I want cis people to understand this because they think this is somehow a choice I made. Some character customization I applied on my body. It is not. I hate that I need to take HRT. I hate that I had to have all these surgeries and wish I could have avoided them. But I needed them and they saved my life.
Being almost killed with an axe, or a fire, or a knife, or almost bleeding out and seeing all this boiling hot red liquid that comes from within pouring on the ground as if a bottle is being emptied on it. These experiences pale in comparison to the trauma and hurt and sorrow that being trans has caused me.

[–]Survivor_Fan10
We literally just want to be left alone. Let us pee in peace.

[–]Arianethecat
It's important for cis people to understand that empathy and respect don't require complete comprehension of our experiences; they simply require a genuine willingness to listen and acknowledge our realities as valid.

[–]smellycat92
No one chooses to be trans and it’s not a “trend” or “for attention.” If they had any shred of common sense they’d realize that being part of any minority is not ideal. No one WANTS to be born in the wrong body. It’s quite miserable and it’s amazing to think people would choose this for attention

[–]Zombskirus
Trans care isn't cosmetic nor just something many of us want, but a need. My medical gender/sex affirming care (i.e. hormones and surgery) is just as important to me as any other medical care I need.
I'm not just changing my gender, but I'm also changing my sex. Medical transition changes so much of your physical self, as well as your mental and emotional states.
Being trans isn't just social for many of us, nor do we transition for anyone else. It wouldn't matter if I was the only person in the world or not, I'd still be trans and still require this care.
That trans people are allowed to be bad people without our identities being stripped away. Trans people are like any other group of people: there will be crappy, horrible trans people. But when cis people do shitty things, their gender isn't taken away. They aren't misgendered, denied their gender status, nor is their identity blamed. Trans people don't have to be good people to deserve very basic respect that cis people are always given. Just as being a bad person doesn't reflect all cis people, a trans person being bad doesn't reflect all trans people, either.

[–]Novaova
It's not all about you.

[–]IamRachelAspen
It’s not a choice, we were born this way we just want to correct what went wrong at birth.
We’re not pressuring kids to transition some kids just know.
And stop trying to politicize us when there’s pedos in the White House as I type this. So stop trying to make us come out to be “a problem” when there’s that.

[–]Buntygurl
That non-cis people are not slightly eccentrically defective almost "normal" versions of cis people in need of tolerance, but that we are all actually just as complete as you are and deserving of exactly the same respect as anyone else you may know.

[–]louisa1925
What they see in their porn searches are vastly different from my reality.

[–]Mamamama99
Honestly, that we are just not a threat to cis people. We are just people who want to live their lives as their authentic selves, because for most of us being otherwise is painful. We're not "coming for your rights" because trans rights being affirmed and protected does not diminish the rights of anyone else. Queer and trans people are not any more likely to commit assault than cis het people. Including trans people does not in any way increase risks. Excluding trans people does increase risks for not only trans people but also cis people who don't conform to their peers' arbitrary ideas or standards for gender norms.

[–]Kraftykristi84
That we didn't choose this. Who the hell would choose this? This sucks but it's just how we are we're not going into bathrooms to do anything but pee. And using "trans people have high rates of self deletion" to try to dissuade trans people is bs. Maybe we wouldn't feel that way if you just treated us like basic human beings. That's all we want.
Oh, and the we're not at all like trans porn.

[–]Mattagast
Finding myself hot doesn't mean Im transitioning to fulfill some sort of fetish lol like I've gotten comments on social media where I'm posting myself saying I think I'm hot that basically boil down to them calling me a "porn sick freak" or whatever

[–]doodle-saurus
Asking about surgeries, how we have sex, who could possibly be attracted to us, etc, is sexual harassment. Asking a cis guy which way his dick curves is just as personal as asking a trans woman when she's gonna have "the surgery".

[–]Visible-Holiday-1017
I'm not a "man without the ick" I'm just a GUY that HAPPENS to be trans.
Also, misgendering a trans person that's bad is still transphobic. You're saying that their gender isn't real but just a "label that's respected". But some trans people also do this so not just a cis people thing. You wouldn't do it to a cis person, don't do it to a cis person, not because you respect them but because it has terrible implications what you think about other trans people.
Lastly, maybe some of you can settle an internal debate I've been having about a user named u/F2Malding, who posts in subs like r/ftmporn and r/ftmspunished and must be the most male-looking pooner I've ever seen; yet despite this, I've strongly considered that this user is actually a biological male who got bottom surgery (like the freaks in r/AMABwGD) because those genitals do not look right for someone allegedly born female. (This is also not this person's first account as they seem to delete and remake often, which only makes me more curious about the truth.) What say ye, Kiwis? Lad or lassie?
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still wondering why pedos aren't just killed. after a fair trial of course.
There are many crimes—including child rape — which truly deserve death in both your opinion and mine, but the main reason that most countries which employ the death penalty reserve it exclusively for murder is that murder is a very difficult crime to fake or to frame someone for.

I would gleefully decorate trees with rapists of any person, but for one terrible problem: way too many innocent people are going to get killed that way.

I don't know if you're old enough to remember it, but have you heard of something called the Satanic Daycare Panic? It was moral panic back in the 80s in which a fuckhuge number of people were accused of child-rape and ritual murder, all of whom were ultimately proven to be completely innocent — nothing had happened at all, and the allegations were insane: children (whom did not exist) had been flushed, whole, down toilets; teachers were flying around the room on broomsticks!

This fiasco which was created by well-meaning crusaders destroyed dozens of lives, and I don't want to even think about how many would have been executed by the state before the truth won out.

One of the main reasons that the (non-existent) case snowballed so terribly quickly is that children are very malleable (a major reason to protect them in the first place), and so zealots essentially importuned them over and over with the same questions until the children understood that "The adult wants a certain answer, and 'no, no one touched me in my swimsuit area' is obviously not the one she wants, so I'll say 'yes'".

The only good thing to emerge from the case is a set of standards for questioning child victims/witnesses in a non-leading manner.

Don't get me wrong: if I caught someone raping a child, I would literally disassemble him with my bare hands before anyone could stop me, but I also believe that to keep that power out of state hands is the lesser of evils.
 
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Pickle-post! Pickle-post!

The night just got better.

Hey, Pickle-Lady, a pertinent couple of questions for probably the most knowledgeable person in this thread:

1. How long have you been cataloguing troons for us?
2. In that time, have you noticed any changes in the amount of material you find?

Of all those here in these threads, you are the person who can tell us if the trans cult is finally losing power.

please say "yes"...
 
Something really ain’t right about that Tim Walz guy. He must be puppeteered by some really twisted people, moreso than most other current US politicians.
He did say he's friends with school shooters. I'm convinced he has some glowie tie that has yet to be exposed, whether or not it's actually Project Orion. Seriously that was such a bizarre statement to make. You could try to write it off as maybe he talked to a kid who was in danger of becoming a school shooter. But why not correct himself and pivot into a story?
 
He did say he's friends with school shooters. I'm convinced he has some glowie tie that has yet to be exposed, whether or not it's actually Project Orion. Seriously that was such a bizarre statement to make. You could try to write it off as maybe he talked to a kid who was in danger of becoming a school shooter. But why not correct himself and pivot into a story?
My first instinct is to reply: "He's fucking dumb", but if so, how the hell did he make it so far?

By most accounts, he was quite intelligent in his younger days, so, I don't know... early-onset dementia?

Not kidding.
 
Pickle-post! Pickle-post!

The night just got better.

Hey, Pickle-Lady, a pertinent couple of questions for probably the most knowledgeable person in this thread:

1. How long have you been cataloguing troons for us?
2. In that time, have you noticed any changes in the amount of material you find?

Of all those here in these threads, you are the person who can tell us if the trans cult is finally losing power.

please say "yes"...
I've lurked transgender subs for a couple of years now, but tragically due to my own personal hobbies and interests I've been subjected to them for far longer than that. It was only when I joined the Farms that I decided it was time to start really archiving them and - especially for the yuckiest ones - putting real names and faces to the lunacy they dare to share online. If you want to talk about grooming kids, you're going to have to take your phonebooking like a champ, and trust me, pickle brine does not a good lubricant make.

As for changes in content, troons 'n' poons are definitely starting to feel the heat of increased visibility and as a result are getting a lot spookier and more paranoid about their transgender status. An example of this that I've seen is a sharp uptick in both sexes desiring stealth status as a permanent lifestyle choice (in contrast to how many used to be loudly out and proud). Notably, this is something I've observed cross-culturally - as in, even the ones in more accepting countries like Canada and Australia are starting to want to hide their transgenderism as they realize what was once a political power-up has now become an albatross around the neck. Transgenderism is ultimately a social version of radium: it used to be in everything, but now that we're seeing the ramifications of it, people are trying to avoid it like the plague.

I don't think we're seeing TTD in the next decade or so, but I strongly feel that in the United States, Democrats took a huge dinger by backing the tranny horse and essentially handed Trump the election - especially after a milquetoast ruling under Biden and a poor performance from Harris' campaign. (I am not derailing this thread to sperg about politics, I promise, this just feels relevant to the situation for Americans especially). Now the reason that this matters is that it's becoming more and more unpopular as it's stopped being viewed as a rare mental condition and is being seen as the dangerous subculture that it is, so I imagine this will be playing a big role in how people vote for upcoming elections. Troon politicians are making themselves especially repulsive to vote for, and I wouldn't be surprised if they started losing out in midterms as people realize a lot of them are degenerates in power. I mean, how many people would vote a Scientologist in to a school board? People may not be forthright about who they vote for and why, but their votes will speak for them nonetheless.

But political representation is not the be-all end-all of acceptance of issues; in terms of social spaces, many will remain captured and stay controlled by true believers until groups themselves begin to splinter from those who accept and those who do not. Typically liberal-leaning spaces such as the arts, video games and other lefty-popular hobbies will continue to be insufferable for a long time, but anything that tends to attract the less terminally online is likely to start seeing pushback, even if subtle and slow. What matters is prioritizing reality, the truth and resisting the usual methods of social control oft deployed by troons 'n' poons, which are pretty easy to snap back against if you have any form of a backbone.

The good news is that tranny-pozzed spaces - or even ones that simply have a great deal of allies - are getting more and more flustered and panicked as they've begun to realize just how much people not only don't care about them, but find them grating, obnoxious, scary and stupid. This is resulting in them being more prone to lashing out, which will only worsen their image. I don't know if they're losing political power very quickly, but the value of their dollar in terms of social currency is rapidly waning and will only remain worthwhile to those who have the most to lose in becoming turncoats, such as parents of "transgender kids," fully transitioned people and those who burnt every bridge they had in caping for these freaks.

I believe if people were made aware of the things they say when they believe no one is watching - combined with honest and accurate results of what "transition" entails surgically and hormonally - we would see a hastened rejection of them; most acceptance of transgenderism has been through frog-boiling and people minding their own business. But they've really gone a bridge too far with a lot of things these last few years, so the more people become aware of it (and are not threatened out of losing work, education and their livelihoods for speaking out), the less accepted it'll become.

TL;DR: Slowly but surely, I feel we are on our way out of this fever dream, but it will still be a long time yet before we get there. Furthermore, it's important now more than ever to slowly reclaim what was taken and force them back into niche little groups rather than dominating every public space (especially where kids are involved). I personally couldn't give less of a fuck about them hiding in their circlejerking gooncaves with one another, but for God's sake, keep it out of my sight.
Boy, the way I wrote all of that, you'd think I was the Jane Goodall of trannies. Let me toss in a thread tax for those of you who don't care to read that.

An idiot, a pervert and a pooner wind up in a hospital due to a masturbatory mishap. (Wait, why did I write pooner three times?) This one is a long one because OP is threatening my status as a windbag, so I'll give you a highlight since she sort of buried the lede: she wound up needing pelvic surgery because she shoved a sounding rod so far up her urethra it got stuck in her bladder! Why did she do this? Because supposedly, it affirmed her gender - something she desperately needs validation for, as she openly admits to envying the sizable genitals of her male relatives.
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My bottom dysphoria landed me in emergency surgery

This is a cautionary tale. Im just trying to work through my emotions with this post. My bottom dysphoria mostly effects my sex life so dont read if your not comfortable with that stuff. i am only including nsfw because it is impossible to talk about this without including it. I am trying not to be graphic but will understand if this post gets taken down.
When I first started transitioning socially in highschool I described my bottom dysphoria as mild. Other things like my chest, face and voice were the decideding factors for my transition. But how i feel about my genitals have has gotten significantly worse over this 7 year journey. I didn't want bottom surgery as I felt my dysphoria down there wasn't bad enough to be worth it, I told my mom this and it made her feel better about my transition.
I started taking testosterone September of 2022. Bottom growth was the first change and I really noticed. Because the men in my family are well endowed it grew pretty big before I was on hrt for even 6 months. At first I loved the growth and it made me feel happy. But then the thoughts crept in 'if I was just born a man it would've been big.'
It started to effect my sex life. Before HRT I wore a strap on when in bed. But after about a year or so whenever I was doing it someone the only thing I could think of was how I couldn't feel it and how much I wished I could. This led me to quickly loose interest and ending the encounter before we really even got started. This is when I first had a serious thought about getting surgery. But ultimately I decided against it as I could avoid the thought by not using strap ons.
After a while the testosterone did its job at getting rid of my facial and vocal dysphoria, and I got top surgery and got rid of my chest dysphoria. But with every step forward the thoughts of the dick I could've had if I was born cis got stronger and more frequent. I did my best to avoid the thoughts by keeping myself busy distracting myself from my feelings.
More and more things became off limits in bed because of the thoughts I had. The more I cut myself off from certain habits I had to replace with in hindsight really unhealthy habits just to get off. I started sounding chasing the feeling that normally only men do. I could close my eyes and pretend I had the anatomy I want
Last week I went to far literally. Im not going to get into details but the rod got stuck in my bladder and it had to be surgically removed through an incision made in my pelvis. I regret everything.
I decided that im going to go back to therapy and start the steps of getting bottom surgery. If my dysphoria is bad enough to land me in emergency surgery then its bad enough to seek help for it.
 
Lastly, maybe some of you can settle an internal debate I've been having about a user named u/F2Malding, who posts in subs like r/ftmporn and r/ftmspunished and must be the most male-looking pooner I've ever seen; yet despite this, I've strongly considered that this user is actually a biological male who got bottom surgery (like the freaks in r/AMABwGD) because those genitals do not look right for someone allegedly born female
Male. I’m 100% convinced. Look at his chest: no teet yeet scars. Typical male chest hair pattern. Not many pooners I’ve seen that have chest hair as thick as that and that shape. He’s either tucking or had the chop, because you’re right about those genitals not looking right.

The face screams male too. I saw the pictures before I saw they claim to be a pooner, and my brain said male.
 
This is resulting in them being more prone to lashing out, which will only worsen their image
Thanks for your detailed reply. It also explains why you are turning your wonderfully-weaponised autism on trannies as opposed to some other repulsive subculture.

There were lefty-leaning places which I used to frequent, and I saw the same terrible infection devastate them bit-by-bit, until they became even-shittier Reddit clones. I had to abandon them one-by-one, and the only "pop" culture I now consume consists of Japanese-language video games (as the localisation scene is more pozzed than Gaëtan Dugas), but at least the original Japanese-language versions are tranny-free.

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I quoted that one sentence of yours because it made me think of the term:

Extinction burst.
 
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