US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

Helpful links for those who need them:

Current members of the House of Representatives
https://www.house.gov/representatives

Current members of the Senate
https://www.senate.gov/senators/

Current members of the US Supreme Court
https://www.supremecourt.gov/about/biographies.aspx

Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[Hateful Harefolk 88]

"but the world will collapse if something is done about this,the green line will be red!!!!"
GOOD.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

So what was her goal? To kill the people ice detained?

I'm guessing to kill the agents or destroy their operations in some nebulous way.

The fact that if it really was an ICE detention center there would be illegals in there too seems to have slipped her mind.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

truth. The current economic system would crumble if everyone who partook in Epstien activities was brought to justice. The world isn't ready to handle that level of evil.

If civilization relies on evil to continue, I personally would rather see it collapse. But I say that realizing it is a very emotional and edgy response that sounds easy to say knowing it would never happen anyway. It would probably be a different story if someone showed up with two magic buttons to make the actual decision.

 

[Mister Fister]

Has Will Stencel been protected from the terrible secret of space?

 

[OJ Simpson]

Firstly, you can't beat the left at their own game because the right just isn't allowed to act like the left. Compare the response to the Summer of 'Love' vs the response to January 6th, for example. In this specific example, when the left act like fools, obfuscate, refuse to answer questions, insult the people asking the questions, if it makes them look like idiots, it gets memoryholed. If the right do the same, it gets put on blast on their 24 hour media propaganda networks.

Secondly, there's nothing wrong with knowing when to pick your battles. I'm not saying 'lose with dignity' but I'm also not saying 'Chimp out and talk about how "line goes up" instead of answering the fucking Epstein questions' either

I get you, but I tend to give a little leeway to the GOP acting retarded as I tend not to pay attention to the histrionics of the media and I want to see a little fire in their belly anyways. And to your point, wasn't there some Obama monkey shit that just happened that's already effectively a dead issue? It's a hyperpartisan audience that make up a bulk of viewers anyways and I think (hope) most people can be honest with themselves and understand that they're consuming propaganda and can't truly be swayed one way or the other based off of any one thing, so Bondi acting like a woman isn't going to move the needle, at the very least I have my doubts. There's always some new existential crisis democrats need to hammer regardless so will anybody remember this Bondi hearing in 3 months?

Directly pointing out the problems within the DNC's policies such as with transgenderism and the issues that come about from there being a defacto open border would be better than engaging in this childish bickering. When the average republican talks about trannies, they don't say anything insightful and it comes across and hypocritical since legally speaking here, transgenderism is an issue which determines how far cosmetic surgeries and treatments can go and yet most members of the GOP don't give a shit about the majority of cosmetic surgeries. When open borders are brought up, the GOP tends to talk about it on a much more surface level and doesn't go into the real problems with having an open border such as:

• Human trafficking increases by orders of magnitude
• Drug trafficking increases by orders of magnitude
• Illegal immigrants are used as slave labor and thus remove millions of jobs for US citizens
• Said slave labor stunts innovation in industries

If the GOP focused more on these 4 points then they would attract a lot of moderate democrats because it shows a level of care towards the working class and appeals to peoples morality far better than the basic and retarded DNC talking points:

• Borders are just imaginary lines
• No human is illegal
• We're a nation of immigrants

I get what you're saying man and I'm not trying to ever be disrespectful to anybody. I get frustrated at times with Republicans messaging too because I think they have the right ideas but sometimes can't articulate it properly. It annoys me to no end. My hang up is just on how they deploy their rhetoric and how it may be perceived. While you may have the attitude of a Harold Ford Jr. which is admirable, I personally don't mind how they say things as much. But if we're just talking about their messaging, I'm right there with you.

 

[Potatoherder]

Directly pointing out the problems within the DNC's policies such as with transgenderism and the issues that come about from there being a defacto open border would be better than engaging in this childish bickering. When the average republican talks about trannies, they don't say anything insightful and it comes across and hypocritical since legally speaking here, transgenderism is an issue which determines how far cosmetic surgeries and treatments can go and yet most members of the GOP don't give a shit about the majority of cosmetic surgeries. When open borders are brought up, the GOP tends to talk about it on a much more surface level and doesn't go into the real problems with having an open border such as:

• Human trafficking increases by orders of magnitude
• Drug trafficking increases by orders of magnitude
• Illegal immigrants are used as slave labor and thus remove millions of jobs for US citizens
• Said slave labor stunts innovation in industries
• Slave labor is bad and open borders promote it

If the GOP focused more on these 5 points then they would attract a lot of moderate democrats because it shows a level of care towards the working class and appeals to peoples morality far better than the basic and retarded DNC talking points:

• Borders are just imaginary lines
• No human is illegal
• We're a nation of immigrants

The whole trans debate has been turned into rich parents crying their daughters don't get a trophy at an elite school. The illegal immigration talk went from securing the borders and stopping the stealing of American jobs to we need to let them steal jobs but have to keep the ones who commit too many crimes out.

 

[No-Eyed Square Guy]

Before 2025 neither Pam nor kash were names on the national level.

Bondi was famous among righties for going against all wiser advice and making the final decision to go forward with the false/impossible prosecution of George Zimmerman, thus inspiring the rise of Black Lives Matter and all its great works.

People forget (when they're told to).

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

The whole trans debate has been turned into rich parents crying their daughters don't get a trophy at an elite school.

Pretty sure the trannies jerking off in women's bathrooms and beating the fuck out of girls is what more people care about.

The only people I've seen turn it into "bitches are just mad they can't win" is troons themselves.

 

[Gregis]

That's a childish mindset and it's better to actually act like a professional rather than have emotional outbursts and attempt to insult people while talking about an international child sex trafficker. Just because the DNC glorifies immaturity and stunts in the government for publicity doesn't mean that the GOP should do the same thing. Are you also suggesting that the GOP should copy the DNC by supporting trannies and open borders?

I agree that what you're responding to is kind of dumb, one of those "what if the roles were reversed?" things. They're not. The media will treat Democrats asking questions in a Congressional hearing as serious, and their Republican respondents as childish; and when a Republican asks questions of a Democrat, their assessment will remain fixed with the party, not the rôle. But there's still no need to treat as serious what is unserious, and Congress has always been prone to unseriousness.

Spoiler: unconscionable history sperging

I read something recently from late 1844 (after Polk's election but prior to his inauguration) which contains an excellent example. After Secretary of State John C. Calhoun wrote a letter to British envoy Richard Pakenham citing the preservation of slavery as a reason for the annexation of Texas, and also citing rudimentary statistics on disability amongst the negro population in free and slave states from the recent census to bolster his support of slavery (he used its figures to argue that conditions like blindness and insanity were more prevalent per capita among Northern than Southern blacks), former Congressman Jabez Delano Hammond of New York published a letter in response, opposing Texas annexation, whilst agreeing partially with Calhoun's analysis, as an opponent of slavery. However, many in that time supported Texas annexation simply because it would be cool and not for any principled reason, and they would employ arguments in favor likewise without principle. This was the case in the ridiculous scenario Hammond details, in which a Congressional committee was formed to investigate possible errors in the aforementioned census; however, to quote Hammond (from page 10, as numbered in the document, not the pdf):

In answer to this enquiry the committee with great naivete inform the house that "they have not the means of ascertaining whether they [the errors] really exist or not.” After imparting to the house this important intelligence, one would naturally suppose they would have asked to be discharged from the further consideration of the petition, instead of which they proceed to enlighten the house on various subjects relating to the resources of the country, and finally conclude by recommending the annexation of Texas as the most probable means of abolishing slavery in the United States.

The whole letter is quite amusing and I'd recommend reading it, but the point is that nearly 200 years ago they were already grandstanding and using their time to make ridiculous points on irrelevant subjects while utterly failing in their assigned tasks. Contempt of Congress is the sign of a rational mind.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Bondi was famous among righties for going against all wiser advice and making the final decision to go forward with the false/impossible prosecution of George Zimmerman, thus inspiring the rise of Black Lives Matter and all its great works.

People forget (when they're told to).

Also taking a $25, 000 bribe to end a lawsuit against a famous university scam!

 

[Crescent Fresh]

I am in no way optimistic that this will actually happen, yet if voter ID leads to a red wave… what happens to the country? Like if it’s made very clear “oh yeah the fraud was EVERYWHERE, they weren’t even subtle about it.”

 

[not william stenchever]

If I was a rich bich I'd also just want one even higher earner fella.

Benjamin Franklin during his time in Paris probably got a lot of his hookups with older women by going "How do you do, fair madam? I'm the ambassador of the 13 Colonies to His Royal Highness. Would you like to see my collection of kites and other curious trinkets?"

 

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[FlappyBat]

Pretty sure the trannies jerking off in women's bathrooms and beating the fuck out of girls is what more people care about.

The only people I've seen turn it into "bitches are just mad they can't win" is troons themselves.

Sports was an effective wedge issue. In part because it was lower stakes and more familiar. If you start out with we need to stop the troons because they're raping girls anally then orally in the school bathrooms with the school's and school board's protection, then some people shutdown call you a liar and say it it's a right-wing conspiracy regardless of how much evidence you show. It's a lower barrier of entry for them to go against the programming to realize, wait a minute men aren't supposed to be in women's sports. And then the rest of the conclusion can flow from there.

 

[Potatoherder]

Pretty sure the trannies jerking off in women's bathrooms and beating the fuck out of girls is what more people care about.

The only people I've seen turn it into "bitches are just mad they can't win" is troons themselves.

Every time trump goes on stage he talks about trannies in women's sports. An aspect of the trans issue that no one cares about really. It's the sexual predator pipeline that people are really upset about. Mutilating kids to turn them into monsters to be sexually abused by satanic people.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Benjamin Franklin during his time in Paris probably got a lot of his hookups with older women by going "How do you do, fair madam? I'm the ambassador of the 13 Colonies to His Royal Highness. Would you like to see my collection of kites and other curious trinkets?"

imagine the inventions he DIDN'T tell the world about

 

[Dog-O-Tron 5000v5.0]

Trump to put out an executive order mandating Voter ID shorty.
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That's just asking for "A Federal Judge Ruled Today..."

But why is he even saying it? They have the votes now. It's a done deal, right?

 

[Tango Moon Star]

Heartbreaking story in Minnesota

Autistic girl is now homeless because she was relying on services from a fraudulent Somali organization

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Wow, I worked as an IHS in MN for a while and worked with this lady. She is extremely unwell and will probably die if she stays homeless. Actually sickening that MN resources, like the CADI waiver system, are being destroyed by these bulbheads. This state could be a mini Switzerland if we didn't import them in mass.

 

[moocow]

But why is he even saying it? They have the votes now. It's a done deal, right?

Probably to piss off the usual suspects and to gently remind congress he's going to do it anyway whether they behave themselves or not, so best to do their jobs for once and not offend the Emperor again.

 

[Hojicha]

Benjamin Franklin during his time in Paris probably got a lot of his hookups with older women by going "How do you do, fair madam? I'm the ambassador of the 13 Colonies to His Royal Highness. Would you like to see my collection of kites and other curious trinkets?"

bitches love trinkets