US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Fatpacks said:
I hate siding with third worldists but there is not a single thing wrong with what he's saying here. We were fucking humiliated by Bad Bunny and only a retard could deny that. To most people, the left now look like saints while the right looks like a cult of fun-hating psycopaths.
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Nigger you live in jeet central. Post hand or stfu.
 
Harvey Danger said:
It's too soon to say whether the old version of the middle class can ever return. I think technology itself may have irrevocably destroyed a lot of the wealth-generating mechanisms we had. But until we know one way or the other, nobody gets to use the old American Dream as justification for the current system.
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Technological advances have always occurred in America, and with them come the inevitable moaning about how the American Dream will be destroyed. Eli Whitney's cotton gin, the assembly lines and factories of the Gilded Age, the rise of the computer- all hailed as the heralds of a golden age or denounced as the destruction of America's class mobility. These inventions brought greater wealth and prosperity than the country ever knew before, though not to the point of a post-scarcity society. America has always adapted to new technologies. Simply give Americans a chance to adapt, and they will create more wealth than even Solomon could dream of.

However: this is contingent on giving Americans a chance. Our leaders are importing the third world and exporting jobs explicitly to take that chance away from Americans. An American man who could create a method to save millions of man hours on an assembly line is wasting his life playing Factorio because all manufacturing jobs are given to niggers and spics or sent to China, and nobody will hire his White ass.

This is the United States of America. We defined the world order for the 20th century, and we can continue to do so. Expel the illegals. Bring jobs back from China. Execute every globalist fuck.
 
Betonhaus said:
Any chance this will successfully pass?
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Sure, friend, we just need to amnesty 500,000 illegals. Once those 1,000,000 legal immigrants get their 5,000,000 naturalization certificates, and all 10,000,000 are set up with their voter ID cards and their 20,000,000 mail in ballots (and it'll be a felony to question why we need 80,000,000 mail in ballots for only 40,000,000 New Americans), it'll be there. Trump's entire persona revolves around making deals, just like Reagan.

Thread tax: 20% according to polymarket.
 
ChampFantana said:
Blame the stupid gay nigger for that. His Cash For Clunkers faggotry killed the used vehicle market.
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I disagree

2009 was 17 years ago, it took about 677,000 vehicles off the road, in 2009 there was over 250 million registered vehicles,

so 677000/250,000,000x100=0.27 so little over a quarter of a percent.

every year we get away from 2009 means what was new in 2009 gets older and we have more used vehicles.

Covid did more damage because auto makers shut down had supply issues.
 
northstar747 said:
it took about 677,000 vehicles off the road,
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"Knock on effects? In my 'stimulus package?'"

That's the superficial take, but it's not the complete take. Those cars were rendered inoperable and destroyed. Those 677000 cars could have extended the lifespan of other used cars by several orders of magnitude, just by being parted out, which they weren't. People who didn't participate still got fucked by those second-order and tertiary effects in the used auto parts market.

Fuck, I miss my CRX Si.
 
northstar747 said:
I disagree

2009 was 17 years ago, it took about 677,000 vehicles off the road, in 2009 there was over 250 million registered vehicles,

so 677000/250,000,000x100=0.27 so little over a quarter of a percent.

every year we get away from 2009 means what was new in 2009 gets older and we have more used vehicles.

Covid did more damage because auto makers shut down had supply issues.
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There were 250 million registered vehicles but only 16 million used car sales in 2009
 
Sensitive Young Man said:
Thune is now onboard with the SAVE Act
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Just 15 cosponsors to go, since the filibuster is still fucking in effect and will never be nuked under a Republican-controlled Senate. Good luck getting "principled libertarians" like Rand Paul on board, let alone 12-13 Democrats.

Tismguide said:
Sure, friend, we just need to amnesty 500,000 illegals. Once those 1,000,000 legal immigrants get their 5,000,000 naturalization certificates, and all 10,000,000 are set up with their voter ID cards and their 20,000,000 mail in ballots (and it'll be a felony to question why we need 80,000,000 mail in ballots for only 40,000,000 New Americans), it'll be there. Trump's entire persona revolves around making deals, just like Reagan.

Thread tax: 20% according to polymarket.
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My thoughts exactly. By the time it's even allowed to pass it will be too little, too late.

Everything "good" about this administration is a fucking monkey's paw. Remember the BBB and how much of a nothingburger that turned out to be outside of ICE funding?
 
SpergioLeonne said:
There were 250 million registered vehicles but only 16 million used car sales in 2009
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okay so 4% and the supply of used cars increases.

There isnt a fix number of used cars and obama taking away 4% over the course of 31 days in july of 2009 did do as much as people like to kevech

One thing with posters here is they cant grasp the scale of things.
 
Sexy Senior Citizen said:
Simply give Americans a chance to adapt, and they will create more wealth than even Solomon could dream of.
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I don't have enough time to fully make all the arguments, but the bullet points are:

  • America had unclaimed frontier for most of its history. A lot of the opportunity and reward came from homesteading virtually free, unexploited resources. But the last land in the continental US was claimed by the end of the 19th century. That source of wealth isn't coming back.
  • If we remove every immigrant family from the last half century, that probably fixes a lot of the wage suppression and resource scarcity. It also opens up job opportunity at both ends of the labor spectrum.
  • The premium from a college degree has been severely diminished. About 15% of Silents had college degrees, about 50% of Millennials have one. We aren't delivering guaranteed social mobility through higher education any more.
  • Computers and communications technology was not incremental, it destroyed entire economic concepts. For example, Internet search destroys consumer search costs; the need to minimize search costs is what got us shopping malls and small stores selling commodity products at a profit. Maybe malls were unneeded, but small stores were a key source of family wealth for hundreds of years.
  • NUMBER GO UP chasing of GDP is already accepted as a foolish chase, by the serious economists. But politicians will keep bragging or crying about headline numbers for a long time, because they're too stupid to understand anything else.
  • The nice thing about the Information Age is we learn results much quicker, and can spread lessons faster. So if we find some things that work, we can spread the fix nationally, instead of waiting for decades to discover lessons happening in remote corners of the country.
It's not all bleak. But it is an open question which wealth generation engines still exist underneath the weight of our current System. And it is an untested empirical question whether they can accommodate our current population.
 
Fatpacks said:
Just 15 cosponsors to go, since the filibuster is still fucking in effect and will never be nuked under a Republican-controlled Senate. Good luck getting "principled libertarians" like Rand Paul on board, let alone 12-13 Democrats.


My thoughts exactly. By the time it's even allowed to pass it will be too little, too late.

Everything "good" about this administration is a fucking monkey's paw. Remember the BBB and how much of a nothingburger that turned out to be outside of ICE funding?
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If you turn out to be wrong, which isn’t very hard due to you having the ultimate doom scenarios, I will personally post this prediction on your profile to make sure you never live this down. I hope it passes just to see you move goalposts and frame it as a “loss” for Trump.
 
Harvey Danger said:
America had unclaimed frontier for most of its history. A lot of the opportunity and reward came from homesteading virtually free, unexploited resources. But the last land in the continental US was claimed by the end of the 19th century. That source of wealth isn't coming back.
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The feds still own the majority of land west of the Mississippi. The frontier can be reopened. just like the old days it would be risky for the settler. you might claim land with no water. you might get attack by wild Indians (mexicans). But the land is still there. There's 2800sq miles of untouched federal land right next door to me, and I live in the east.
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all that land was what was left when the frontier was closed in 1890.
 
Fatpacks said:
I hate siding with third worldists but there is not a single thing wrong with what he's saying here. We were fucking humiliated by Bad Bunny and only a retard could deny that. To most people, the left now look like saints while the right looks like a cult of fun-hating psycopaths.
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I don’t even know or care who Bad Bunny is.
 
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