Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread - Gorl Tawk's very own DMZ (De-Moidified Zone)

[Big Miss Steak]

Saw a user on here say that misandry has been institutionalized and it's kind of crazy that these people vote and live among us.

 

[Staphylococcus aureus]

Nothing is worse than a man with BPD, though. It’s massively under-diagnosed in moids because it’s been gendered as “crazy bitch disease”. But imagine all the worst traits of a stereotypical typical BPDemon dialed up to 11 with more violence and substance abuse. Plus 75% of them are also sociopaths or narcissists on top of that.

No matter how crazy you think "BPD whores" are, the BPD males will always blow them out of the water. I have never met a woman with BPD who was even close to a BPD male.

Spoiler: TMI

Dated a BPD male for less than 2 months. Did not know he was batshit insane, but I was also retarded and didn't listen when his ex tried to tell me he was weird (a mistake I will never make again).

In the span of two months, he:
- threatened to kill himself nearly every day, at least several times a week
- claimed to have jumped off a 10 story building and survived with no broken bones (lol)
- would stonewall me for days at a time then come back begging for me to give him attention
- would cut himself and send pictures unsolicited to random people
- pressured me into sex constantly (I said no, but it always triggered a meltdown)
- forcibly solicited nudes (via threats of violence against himself and others) from women younger than him
- attempted to cheat on me with a faggot, the faggot said no (holy shit how embarrassing)
- claimed he "tried every medication" and nothing worked for him
- said he hoped all my pets died and burned in hell ??
... and more that I can't recall right now.

I've said this before and of course @Liber Nihil mentioned it but I truly believe BPD is SEVERELY underdiagnosed and underreported in males. I would bargain the majority of trannies/family annihilators/murder-suicide males have a combination of BPD and porn addiction.

 

[dick tha master]

Turkey Tom defenders have been getting on my nerves, good thing i've been banned from his thread for a week lol. Now i won't sperg about how how he's a bpd chaser and try to explain why it's concerning.

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

I genuinely hope all male writers choke for the shit they pulled. So still reading Yukio Mishima’s Forbidden Colors. Essentially closeted gay man is being used as womanizer for an old man to get back at the women he was romantically interest in the past. Just some gay half baked revenge story.

I just literally read a women get raped or tricked into thinking it for plot reason. Essentially they got her drunk and lured her into thinking she was going to sleep with closet dude then switched places. So I’m essentially expected to think that she got what she deserved, because she laughed at a 60 something year old trying to get into her pants years ago.

I already hate gay men as is, but moids will just take any old woman hating faggot and put them on a pedestal. Mishima is just some bitter bitch that couldn’t get of the closet so he took it out on women. He call them every name under the sun including prostitutes, but he’s literally writing every gay man as whoring themselves out. The fucking audacity to call him in any way a good writer is outright delusional.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

Turkey Tom defenders have been getting on my nerves, good thing i've been banned from his thread for a week lol. Now i won't sperg about how how he's a bpd chaser and try to explain why it's concerning.

This post of mine was sarcastic but a guy in that thread actually said it to you and he was being serious lmao. Life imitates art:

Insanity. If you don't agree that he tripped and fell dick first into tens of mentally ill ethots, you're victim blaming and that makes you as bad as a night rapist.

I would say it's unprecedented levels of sweeping, but human history teaches us many men prefer to admit to being mind controlled by their own dicks rather than take any accountability for where they stick them. They will only hold another man accountable if there's an advantage to them doing so. You can learn this about them not only by observing them, but observing what they accuse women of and realizing that these men have a very limited theory of mind.

Edit: They also view accountability in absolute terms: either what happened was all my fault, or it was none of my fault. Any attempt to hold a man accountable for his own actions and choices will therefore be labeled as an attempt to deny the accountability of women, because any nuance would make him at least partially responsible and they can't have that.

 

[Jellie Opal]

I am starting to believe that the Y chromosome is a birth defect

That's because it is. We're XX. They're XY. Their X breaks upon the introduction of testosterone, which poisons a perfect creation into an abomination, more animal than human, more grotesque than glorious. There's a reason humans start off as female. We're the default, the base, the foundation. They're the anomaly.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

That's because it is. We're XX. They're XY. Their X breaks upon the introduction of testosterone, which poisons a perfect creation into an abomination, more animal than human, more grotesque than glorious. There's a reason humans start off as female. We're the default, the base, the foundation. They're the anomaly.

Not disagreeing with you on principle (the Y chromosome is absolutely a mutation and that's a fact), but "we all start female" is actually misinfo from Jurassic Park of all things. We actually all start in a bipotential state and our development goes down one of two pathways depending on which genes are present and whether the conditions to activate those genes are met, meaning female development is also an active process, not just a passive one. It's a bit more complicated than I can explain, but here's a video about it.

 

[dick tha master]

It bothers me how obvious his interest in mentally ill women, and how many people try to minimize this observation, it plays a big part in his partner selection.

While they are capable of independent decision making, this ability is compromized due to their disorder (e.g. people pleasing a favorite person along with overall being easily influenced due to fear of abandonment). He clearly likes being praised- so he will naturally gravitate towards women like that.

One of the users also pointed out the possibility that he goes after crazy women, because they are the only ones interested in him- and sane ones avoid him like the plague. I see that as a possibilty too, but why hasn't he found at least one sane woman interested in him? Maybe he did, it didn't work out and we just don't know about it. In that case, it's more proof no normal woman wants him.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

One of the users also pointed out the possibility that he goes after crazy women, because they are the only ones interested in him- and sane ones avoid him like the plague.

This is cope, but if it were true that sane women want nothing to do with him, the correct choice on his end would be to do some self-reflection about why that is and refrain from further sexual relationships (i.e. stop gooning) until he's fixed the root cause.

 

[Kyla Turner]

Rowan said that Tom choked her without obtaining consent first, is anyone aware of any information Tom presented which is evidence that this claim is false?

I've followed the drama but not super closely. So far, I don't think I see evidence proving that all the sexual assault allegations are unlikely to be true.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

Rowan said that Tom choked her without obtaining consent first, is anyone aware of any information Tom presented which is evidence that this claim is false?

I've followed the drama but not super closely. So far, I don't think I see evidence proving that all the sexual assault allegations are unlikely to be true.

I get why you posted this here, because posting it in the TT thread at this point in the conversation will get you dogpiled and accused of being a psycho bitch whore BPD slut false rape accuser slut whore, but since my response is off topic, I spoilered it.

Spoiler: OT

No, he didn't disprove everything they said, but at this point it's pretty irrelevant whether he does or not. Their credibility is shot and they have more to lose by trying to prove the truth of whatever allegations remain. It's been decided that because they provably lied and had vindictive motives, it's not worth meticulously considering each allegation on its own merits. The court of public opinion doesn't work like a court of law where you can be found not guilty on three charges but guilty on the fourth. We'll never know if he actually did some of what they said unless he fucks up even more bigly and does it to some girl who's smarter than he is, and she decides to go to the police instead of the owner of a gossip forum. I wouldn't hold my breath until that happens.

 

[probably online]

since my response is off topic, I spoilered it.

i don't know what it is about the TT thread in particular, but holy shit i feel like men came out of the woodwork not only to give dogshit takes but to absolutely SHIT up the thread rehashing the SAME SHIT , over & over. Idk why they couldn't have just done what you did & use the spoiler tag to make it more neat.
So many other threads on here follow that etiquette, maybe i'm just new or maybe the TT thread just attracted the kind of people who hate neatness & organization. or maybe i'm just a stickler for formatting

 

[Inside your walls]

Speaking of men and their public image being ruined..

Honestly for me the funniest thing about Elijah Schafer's public crashout and revelations about him being a cheating hedonistic half-fruit loop despite larping as all true and honest all American Christian trad man, is not the said revelations because anyone who's familiar with the whole soyright scene on Twitter could had forseen this coming.

It's the hordes of "conservative" men who never shut up about how faghags and troon handmaidens are proof how women's empathy is destructive because it enables degeneracy and worst in people thus is causing the downfall of the west, being upset that to the surprise of nobody the conservative wife of the "conservative" man completely dipped out and took the kids with her, instead of doing a complete 180 by becoming a faghag cheerleader for her husband as she gets into the cuck chair to watch her husband larp as Indiana Jones in rectum raiding with other men, increasing the risk of infecting her with some sexually transmitted disease with his shitdick and potentially bringing weird men in the same place their children live, under the pretense of being a dutiful Christian wife who's there for her husband as he battles his demons (bisexuality).

Y-y-you mean to tell me that... Conservative women born and raised in a hardcore Christian enviroment where they're taught that homosexuality is on the same level of sin as pedophilia or beastiality and how homosexual men are hedonistic manwhores that reproduce by molesting boys when they're not having sex with other men, wouldn't be too keen on the idea of becoming her husband's faghag ?? OH MY GOY.


Also love how they can excuse the male butt fucking but draw the line at a woman divorcing her cheating husband.

 

[Prion Disease]

Also love how they can excuse the male butt fucking but draw the line at a woman divorcing her cheating husband.

I'd guess it's because these men base their worldview on how much sexual labour they can extract from women; in their eyes, infidelity is alright as long as it's providing men with unlimited access to sex. It's why the woman-hate thread is primarily retards seething at us purely because they can't get laid.

Also, I wonder why conservative men who cry the most about faggotry tend to end up in some gay sex scandal? It's probably the same shit that's happening with Fuentes. I guess if you hate women that hard you'd just start fucking other men.

 

[catcher]

i don't know what it is about the TT thread in particular, but holy shit i feel like men came out of the woodwork not only to give dogshit takes but to absolutely SHIT up the thread rehashing the SAME SHIT , over & over. Idk why they couldn't have just done what you did & use the spoiler tag to make it more neat.
So many other threads on here follow that etiquette, maybe i'm just new or maybe the TT thread just attracted the kind of people who hate neatness & organization. or maybe i'm just a stickler for formatting

Turkey Tom defenders have been getting on my nerves, good thing i've been banned from his thread for a week lol. Now i won't sperg about how how he's a bpd chaser and try to explain why it's concerning.

Even before the video came out, every other user in the thread was screeching about "bee pee dee whores" or blatantly posting weird misogynistic takes under the guise of knowing what BPD is based purely on emotion. But when women counteract this shit, they start screaming about gender wars as if their takes weren't shitting up pages without end

 

[Angry Pyukumuku]

They also view accountability in absolute terms: either what happened was all my fault, or it was none of my fault. Any attempt to hold a man accountable for his own actions and choices will therefore be labeled as an attempt to deny the accountability of women, because any nuance would make him at least partially responsible and they can't have that.

This is so true.

I saw this woman on X say something like "Sarah did something terrible and people are rightfully going after her, but for some reson I don't see as many people attacking Elijah for his part, and when they do it's not as hard, when what he did to his family is even worse" and the overwhelming majority of men were accusing her of saying Sarah did nothing wrong and that people should only blame Elijah, so that means once again women are running away from accountability.

I can't post screenshots of most of it because she was dogpiled into going private, but I was able to get this one


Saying women can't help but run intervention for their gender while at the same time saying it's not as bad when men betray their spouses and children is peak lack of self-awareness

 

[crazedaze]

This is so true.

I saw this woman on X say something like "Sarah did something terrible and people are rightfully going after her, but for some reson I don't see as many people attacking Elijah for his part, and when they do it's not as hard, when what he did to his family is even worse" and the overwhelming majority of men were accusing her of saying Sarah did nothing wrong and that people should only blame Elijah, so that means once again women are running away from accountability.

I can't post screenshots of most of it because she was dogpiled into going private, but I was able to get this one
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Saying women can't help but run intervention for their gender while at the same time saying it's not as bad when men betray their spouses and children is peak lack of self-awareness

When you really think about it, a couple posts laughing at men who are unable to make a man accountable for his own actions in a space created just to talk about him without making it about women's biblical evilness, repeal the 19th, women are whores, let's burn her alive, women never take responsibility, topped with the exquisite "it takes two to tango", is actually just as bad as a dozen pages of the aforementioned off-topic misogynistic incel bullshit.

 

[w.a.m.s.]

This is so true.

I saw this woman on X say something like "Sarah did something terrible and people are rightfully going after her, but for some reson I don't see as many people attacking Elijah for his part, and when they do it's not as hard, when what he did to his family is even worse" and the overwhelming majority of men were accusing her of saying Sarah did nothing wrong and that people should only blame Elijah, so that means once again women are running away from accountability.

I can't post screenshots of most of it because she was dogpiled into going private, but I was able to get this one
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Saying women can't help but run intervention for their gender while at the same time saying it's not as bad when men betray their spouses and children is peak lack of self-awareness

Related to the BPD and gender discussion above: a major part of the pathology of BPD (arguably the foundational part) is all-or-nothing thinking, the inability to view objects-of-attachment as complex entities that simultaneously hold good and bad parts. Splitting. That's how the idealization and devaluation cycle works. A BPD person paints their partner (or favorite person, or parent, or whatever) golden and they can do no wrong, until they inevitably can't live up to that image and the BPD person paints them black and everything they do becomes an unforgivable crime. Until the partner forgives them and gives them headpats, or lets them back in when they get lonely, or something else happens that allows the BPD person to paint them golden again.

A lot of men are like that, particularly on that corner of the internet. Consider these examples of moid behavior as all-or-nothing thinking:

• As Angry Pyukumuku posted above: if someone can only be all-good or all-bad, all conflicts that sort of man witnesses must be between a Good Person and a Bad Person. How can he tell which person is which? Whoever reminds him more of himself must be in the right. "Partial accountability for both parties" threatens his worldview, but "the bumbling guy with a few weird fetishes vs the evil BPD whore" doesn't.
• Attaching to a favorite politician or commentator as That Guy Who Knows How It Works and being unable to speak critically of him beyond the most shallow "no one's perfect" platitudes, and being unable to toss him off the pedestal until it becomes too socially disadvantageous not to (because the majority of people in the social circle have decided to call That Guy Who Knew How It Works out on his bullshit and it's become inescapable that there's no benefit to defending him)
• Viewing a woman as either a good and holy virgin or a whore incapable of loyalty (also see the Madonna-whore complex)

"Do a lot of men have BPD? Are BPD traits viewed as normal male behavior and encouraged in boys and men?" Psychiatrists should ponder this.

Spoiler: sperging, Oedipus complexes

Idealization/devaluation is pretty well documented as a standard feature of BPD relationships, but another part that some discussions gloss over is that the BPD person's attachment to their Person is a lot like the kind of dependency a child has on a parent. The partner is treated like a pacifier, an energy source, and a font of infinite wisdom that can never be wrong (until, you know). The reassurance that their person still loves them seems to hold up the entire sky for them the same way a happy child knows mommy or daddy will always be there for them.

I bring it up because the idea of "moids expect all women to prioritize them like Mommy did/make up for their mother's real or perceived failings" has been brought up ITT plenty of times. Guys like this get stuck in the stage of development where they see all members of the opposite sex as replacement parents instead of actual human beings - they feel entitled to the same level of unconditional devotion, without ever having to actually think about her feelings or individuality, and this persists when they get old enough to have sexual urges.

That's not meant to mean All Retard Moids On The Internet have BPD, but it is meant to draw some parallels between misogynistic men and emotional immaturity.

 

[DeeNaMeeTay]

Speaking of men and their public image being ruined..

Honestly for me the funniest thing about Elijah Schafer's public crashout and revelations about him being a cheating hedonistic half-fruit loop despite larping as all true and honest all American Christian trad man, is not the said revelations because anyone who's familiar with the whole soyright scene on Twitter could had forseen this coming.

It's the hordes of "conservative" men who never shut up about how faghags and troon handmaidens are proof how women's empathy is destructive because it enables degeneracy and worst in people thus is causing the downfall of the west, being upset that to the surprise of nobody the conservative wife of the "conservative" man completely dipped out and took the kids with her, instead of doing a complete 180 by becoming a faghag cheerleader for her husband as she gets into the cuck chair to watch her husband larp as Indiana Jones in rectum raiding with other men, increasing the risk of infecting her with some sexually transmitted disease with his shitdick and potentially bringing weird men in the same place their children live, under the pretense of being a dutiful Christian wife who's there for her husband as he battles his demons (bisexuality).

Y-y-you mean to tell me that... Conservative women born and raised in a hardcore Christian enviroment where they're taught that homosexuality is on the same level of sin as pedophilia or beastiality and how homosexual men are hedonistic manwhores that reproduce by molesting boys when they're not having sex with other men, wouldn't be too keen on the idea of becoming her husband's faghag ?? OH MY GOY.
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Also love how they can excuse the male butt fucking but draw the line at a woman divorcing her cheating husband.

Ur right, even though both cheated it’s always the women that gets the blunt a lot more than men. There’s always one white woman year that people go on internet witch hunts for:






Op and the comments below:

Spoiler: “Are these ppl forreal 🤦‍♀️ "

Zero accountability for the men, men ‘don’t get emotions when sleeping with sluts’ Madonna Whore complex proven a zillion times over for these sociopaths


Darn Boss babes


it’s so over for men if this is what they think about us

What some of these trad conservative men saying about Elijah?



But this is what he said months prior. The ratio



Nick Fuentes, Milo, and this guy that I think is a closeted homo are all backing up for him. But would they back Sarah and give her grace as well? Me no thinks. Just call her a whore jezebel.

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My condolences to the both of their spouses tbh.

 

[Steam Deck Verified]

Men, particularly terminally online redditor/YouTuber types, go crazy for BPD girls because they're the closest thing they get to an irl manic pixie dream girl. Big emotions, dramatic exciting behavior, "I can save her" past, the feeling of being intensely loved like this woman will kill you and herself if you treat her badly, insanely good and kinky in bed, clings to you all the time, "girlish" behavior, etc. make them feel like they're the main character in an intense and deep romance that's so unlike the boring, responsible, grown-up women who expect them to have a job and a good credit score.

But a MPDG romance is successful because it's fiction and the writer can just insert an unrealistic happy ending. Moids get burned or get tired of the drawbacks of dating someone with a personality disorder and then start complaining like they were deceived all along when the very hallmarks of BPD is why they felt special and attracted in the first place, but they get asspats from men anyway because "We've all been there bro, best sex you've ever had though lol."

A woman dates a single poor male partner? "Women are allergic to accountability," "Not my fault your picker is broken," "But I bet you were just interested in tall, hot Chad for his personality right?"

This isn't necessarily about Tom though he absolutely can identify which women are more open to e.g. anal and choking (which contrary to social media exposure is still pretty unpopular with irl women) yet still wants to pull the woe is me act when shit goes south.

Y-y-you mean to tell me that... Conservative women born and raised in a hardcore Christian enviroment where they're taught that homosexuality is on the same level of sin as pedophilia or beastiality and how homosexual men are hedonistic manwhores that reproduce by molesting boys when they're not having sex with other men, wouldn't be too keen on the idea of becoming her husband's faghag ?? OH MY GOY.

You see men come out of the woodwork all the time on KF admitting that they don't even want a conservative woman because politically minded women in any respect annoy them, they just want a compliant gf who is either ignorant about politics or just agrees with everything they say.

I don't necessarily disagree with wanting a partner who isn't so "on" that you can't get through a single dinner date without them railing against miscenegation or ICE but awful rich to make 5000 posts a year complaining about the Jews but feeling entitled to a spouse too happy go lucky to have their own opinion.