US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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This is a fair read of it.
I will say regardless; Vance benefits very little from lying about policy at this given time no matter the rationalizations anyone can concoct up. No matter the situation I do believe his words are entirely genuine.

Which I am pleased with. Sometimes I flop on him because of his jeet wife and ties to Thiel but generally he tends to come off as consistent.
Sometimes I do wonder how Rubio would fair. I didn't like him for quite a bit but he has been growing at an astronomical rate.

Id honest vote for a Rubio/Miller campaign. Assuming he can keep it up.
Here is the basic problem. Internet right wingers have no intuitive sense about how to say things in public that don't result in upsetting people, because all internet right wingers do is carefully cultivate the ability to say the most upsetting thing possible at any given moment online, because it's funny to make people mad. So when Trump says something that is clearly phrased in a way to not upset everyone as much as possible, rightists think he's betraying them (they also think he promised to take policy advice from a "fashy podcaster" named "Jazzhands McFeels" for some reason).

But let's think rationally for a minute. There are several key ways in which Trump is very different from the political right:
  1. He's successful in politics
  2. He's successful in media
  3. He's had sex with attractive women
This should clue you into something, Donald Trump is much better at dealing with people than anyone on the right. This is why you should always trust Trump. He's just plain better at talking to people than you are, or I am, or anyone else here is, even at nearly 80 years old. People should stop crying that he's not deliberately being as offensive as possible when he talks to the press. If doing what anonymous shitposters thought was the best way to manage his communications was actually the right thing to do, he wouldn't have just won the greatest election comeback of all time. He'd still be banned from all social media.
 
This is something that annoys the hell out of me. The Romans had concrete that repaired its own cracks when it got wet, which they used to make buildings that have stood for thousands of years. Meanwhile, we can't make a fucking sidewalk that lasts for more than a few years without needing to be manually fixed or replaced. We had even noticed the compound that allowed it to do this (lime clasts) a long time ago, but determined it was just a mistake that it was in the mix. At least "it was a mistake" is something different than the usual "for religious or navigational purposes" that everything else we find gets labeled as, I supposed.
same reasons washing machine or refrigerator or car lasts 5 years if your lucky now when in the 50s they were made till last till now and beyond

anything beyond 20% energy gets classified as state secret under the "invention secrecy act 1961" google it

it is what it is brother

 
So when Trump says something that is clearly phrased in a way to not upset everyone as much as possible, rightists think he's betraying them
This should clue you into something, Donald Trump is much better at dealing with people than anyone on the right.
Nowhere have I disagreed with either of these points. I know you are speaking more broadly then not but to be clear by optics cucking I meant speaking on the topic purely for optics sake.
I just don't really find it has a purpose at this moment. That is all.

Not that trump should just mask off "TND TMD DIE DIE HEIL" on television, lmao.

Just that we aren't close enough to midterms for the sound bytes to matter to anyone whose vote will change.

But as I conceded in my previous post, there may be good reason for it.


This is something that annoys the hell out of me. The Romans had concrete that repaired its own cracks when it got wet
We do have this.
It was just determined not economical for a large portion of the country.

Now if you want to say the DoT is a corrupt shithole and are lying about it not being worth it, fair. But yeah we do have this.
 
same reasons washing machine or refrigerator or car lasts 5 years if your lucky now when in the 50s they were made till last till now and beyond

anything beyond 20% energy gets classified as state secret under the "invention secrecy act 1961" google it

it is what it is brother

https://youtube.com/watch?v=WBQ65EBKbdw
No need for me to Google it, I'm very familiar with it and some of the (supposed) inventions that have been shut down by it.

Minor power level, but I did Lean Six Sigma Black Belt training a number of years ago, and they gave a story about RCA (I think). Basically, there was a particular part for their VCRs that they were considering making out of either metal or plastic. The metal one was a couple cents cheaper and would last more or less forever, the plastic one was more expensive and all but guaranteed to break within a few years. They went with the plastic one so people would be forced to buy new VCRs, and that strategy worked. This was championed as a great decision and the kind of thinking we need to be doing. That story was the beginning of the end for me in the corporate world, I hate how disposable our society has become and want nothing to do with furthering things in that direction.
 
saying "we're gonna deport up to a hundred million people" is a thing you can only enact over a decade with successive presidents, not saying total spic death now now now now during the brief 4 years you snatched from the retarded jamaican lady who'd open the borders with a mostly recalcitrant congress of cucks.
it really isnt. most of the obstacles are just this bizarre idea newt gingrich types try to throw out where they think people wont vote for it despite constantly voting for it. its like voter id or any other thing other countries have that we dont where we listen to the cries and appeals to optics from the weak and desperate that has no actual basis in reality.
 
Now say it again, in english
Shitlibs can't build sites anymore because they sperged out a decade ago and are more obsessed with hiring browns and troons to write code instead of people who are actually talented at it.

As a result, their sites all suck ass and can get broken into super easily. Hence why anti-ice sites are all dogshit and keep exposing themselves.
 
There is a joke they tell in economics classes. Two economists are walking down a country road when they come upon a big pile a cow shit. One goes to the other, bet you won't take a big bite of that for $2000. The economist, knowing the value of his time thinks it's a great deal and take a giant bite. He then goes to the other, saying I bet it's you who won't take a big bite of that shit for $2000. Not wanting to be outdone the other economist takes a giant bite of it. As they walk down the road they agree even if it didn't taste good, they increased GDP by $4000.
Reminds me of this comic I saw a few years ago:
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No, as long as Texas DOT keeps building miles of interstate highway only to completely break them apart the next year to build even better ones, there's no collapse incoming. That also means that ain't nobody really earnest about global boiling or whatever the fuck.
The year is 2126. The Dallas-Fortworth megacity is nothing but an interlocking set of freeways with assorted buildings hidden amidst the roads. Every street is designated a shitting street. Houston has expanded into the gulf and proceeded to build highways floating on the ocean. 100% of the white and asian population resides within a walled set of suburbs with no public transportation access. Austin residents no longer own homes but instead sleep in self-driving oversized trucks that caress them to sleep in the stop-and-go traffic of their 30 lane beltways. San Antonio's Californian transplants insist that it is a 15 minute city. What this means is unclear in Texas, but they're congratulating themselves on it anyhow. The Texas DoT has forgotten that El Paso exists. Despite its 100% Mexican population, it considers itself an American city while using Spanglish as the primary language. Let's be real. Its residents are more concerned with access to Mexico than the continental US.
 
Does anyone genuinely think a collapse is possible?
There are three conditions we have yet to meet for true collapse:

1. Economic Gotterdammerung on par with 1929 with zero effort as seen in 2008 to cauterize the wound and turn a depression into a recession.

2. Either the Democrats or Republicans going "fuck it" and starting open civil war.

3. An out of the blue black swan event that triggers WW3.
 
Because I think it would be funny and I am kinda wasted, @StudMccool
Hey man you love being weirded out thinking about things you never had to take into consideration like that maybe all of Antarctica may not be ice.
So how about this, how did all those large armies march hundreds of miles in formation while needing to piss and shit befor the advent of modern warfare?
Like. You have 100,000 dudes right? Union, Confederate, Fucking Persian whatever. They need to go 100 miles. Only every one of those men needs to piss and shit. And they can’t just distribute the men based on when they are ready to go. And you can’t just have dudes in formation drop out and go shit before coming back.

HOW DID THEY PISS AND POOP AND MARCH 100,000 MEN? DID THESE DUDES JUST SHIT THEMSELVES ON THE GO?
 
Because I think it would be funny and I am kinda wasted, @StudMccool
Hey man you love being weirded out thinking about things you never had to take into consideration like that maybe all of Antarctica may not be ice.
So how about this, how did all those large armies march hundreds of miles in formation while needing to piss and shit befor the advent of modern warfare?
Like. You have 100,000 dudes right? Union, Confederate, Fucking Persian whatever. They need to go 100 miles. Only every one of those men needs to piss and shit. And they can’t just distribute the men based on when they are ready to go. And you can’t just have dudes in formation drop out and go shit before coming back.

HOW DID THEY PISS AND POOP AND MARCH 100,000 MEN? DID THESE DUDES JUST SHIT THEMSELVES ON THE GO?
Digging latrine trenches has been common practice for armies for thousands of years.

Either the soldiers took a moment to shit in the wilderness while they went along, or they pooped in the legion poop hole once they stopped.

When soldiers marched from point A to point B, they didn't do it like a parade where everyone is in perfect lockstep. If you had to shit you could take a minute to go off and shit then come back.
 
Digging latrine trenches has been common practice for armies for thousands of years.

Either the soldiers took a moment to shit in the wilderness while they went along, or they pooped in the legion poop hole once they stopped.
YOU REALLY THINK ARMIES CONSTANTLY DIGGING TRENCHES OR JUST LETTING DUDES GO OFF TO SHIT IN THE WILDERNESS WHERE AN ENEMY COULD KILL THEM OR THEY COULD DESERT? NO THEY SHAT THEMSELVES AND LEFT IT ON THE ROAD. THATS WHY SCOTS LOVE KILTS
 
Because I think it would be funny and I am kinda wasted, @StudMccool
Hey man you love being weirded out thinking about things you never had to take into consideration like that maybe all of Antarctica may not be ice.
So how about this, how did all those large armies march hundreds of miles in formation while needing to piss and shit befor the advent of modern warfare?
Like. You have 100,000 dudes right? Union, Confederate, Fucking Persian whatever. They need to go 100 miles. Only every one of those men needs to piss and shit. And they can’t just distribute the men based on when they are ready to go. And you can’t just have dudes in formation drop out and go shit before coming back.

HOW DID THEY PISS AND POOP AND MARCH 100,000 MEN? DID THESE DUDES JUST SHIT THEMSELVES ON THE GO?
shitting is a modern liberal construct to sell bathrooms
 
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