US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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My prediction for the future of US politics is that it's going to be joever for the Democrat party, they're going to radicalize even harder and never get major wins again outside of the libtard strongholds. The Republican party however will undergo mitosis, splitting into one that's the Republicans as they are now and one that's an even more right wing party, probably of nationalist libertarians willing to give commies free helicopter rides and send the pajeets back to the mud pits from whence they came.
It comes down to, more people are upset MAGA doesn't go far enough than want anything the democrats have to offer. The GOP just has to watch weirdo splits and be strong wit MAGA as a core. The dems are still in disarray. They can win here and there on some blue states and might take the house, but they really have nothing to offer except the same old 'orange man bad'.

'orange man bad' appeals to many low IQ boomers, especially the gray hair women (oops, I can't bash women anymore).
 
You did NOT vote for the orange man? Based
Like it or lump it, while I didn't vote for him I do approve of several things happening during his term and admin I didn't expect to actually happen, if probably-to-likely done by others under his aegis: Hesgeth enforcing stricter fitness standards for the military, RFKjr banning artificial dyes and other health initiatives, the admin's general buck-breaking of troons, and even if it's the current Big Issue in society and the thread - the fact immigration under Miller has stalled to negative net migration for the first time in decades, all of these are things I can get behind. Same for Trump, of all things, talking on Blackrock snapping up housing - that it's finally mentioned out loud by him of all people is a pleasant shock and means people can begin openly fishing for solutions to make housing affordable to normal Americans again.

The closest thing I'd bother to listen to from the TESniggers is the talk on the masked agent discourse, and even then, my thought is "then why you all let it get this bad to where it HAD to get ugly like that?" Illegals weren't self-deporting until teeth are shown, and I see people against, or trying to stop, deportations of mass illegal immigrants and colonizers as ultimately aiding foreigners... and the Constitution is pretty definitive that giving aid to enemies both foreign and domestic is treason. To me, these people would've argued we should just let Britain do "virtual representation" as they argued than actually fight to protect our rights they so supposedly cherish.
 
State yes, private citizens no. In the case of citizenry the environment falls victim to the tragedy of the commons
A private citizen can be punished for fucking up the environment.
The Government can not, see Flint Michigan.

free because of the nature of game theory and resource accumulation, monopolies,
No the Free Market isn't currently a "Free Market" because we have faggots in Government pushing on the scales.

Such as? Given that you admit that culture has been ceded to the left, it is easy to understand why republicans or the right wing may not gel with cultural artifacts that are inherently anti-american, while i.e. Anime at least presents conservative ideals such as friendship, heroism, leftists are literal demons etc., even if they are national ideals and products of another nation.
Fucking EVERYTHING.

The "Right Wing" spent decades dismissing every popular that isn't "MUH SPORTS" as "For losers who live in their mother's basement"

I can accept this and agree that corporations should be held to account for their participation in illegal immigration. However, this does not stoke me to countersignal the current very successful deportation efforts on the ground floor. It's like cake and ice cream, I like both.
But we aren't getting both are we.

but they played an important historical purpose.
So did the Horse Drawn Carriage.
 
I am completely unsympathetic to you or your like-minded ideologues desiring to do so.

Ah, see there you have it. Shill tactics. I never said anything about that. Classic propaganda technique. Good job.

You also have no idea what you're talking about. By masking, you make it so it is far more difficult to hold them accountable and you make it a certainty that it'll cause fucked up retard shit JUST LIKE WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH PETTI.

"Imagine if it were the other side doing it" i

Bro, you have no idea. There is one side. MAGA did covid and loved every second of it. What do you people not get about MAGA being a liberal ideology. You aren't winning. What you're cheering isn't happening the way you think it is. There are no MASSIVELY MASS DEPORTATION going on. The Patriot Act wasn't a left/right thing... and neither is what ICE is doing.
 
Haven't been able to pay attention to politics lately, did Null nuke something while I was gone? I'm seeing really pathetic and disgusting retards spazzing out more than usual lately.
All he did was post in the TES thread that he shouldn't be obligated to be a rootless "world citizen", give up and just move because the elites want to jeetify the country for a 1% increase in GDP and that national sovereignty is a good thing actually.
 
I’ll excuse a lot of things, like *gasp* masks to shield your identity from terrorists, purely out of my sheer racism and hatred.
What about when they do xyz to you?
I don’t even speed you fucking retard, maybe if you weren’t a criminal nigger you’d have a different relationship to law enforcement.
 
He just went on a bit of a rampage in TES and a couple people got banned. I feel a bit bad for tagging retrodogkiller now because he actually has been answering my questions in good faith as the thread melts down around us.
Hey dont feel bad, I'm came in acting like a tard.
 
that it's going to be joever for the Democrat party
Looking at it from the other side of the pond, your parties get generationally replaced. Name stays the same but the people inside come and go in waves. As round 2020 most republicans got replaced with MAGA people. This was signal boosted by the media as becoming "extremist"

At the exact same time, or maybe even for a longer period of time, the Democrats are being replaced by the DSA. The media doesn't signal boost this of course, but looking how high people like Mamdami got & he's one of those that don't even hide it anymore, I'd be serious about doing a tally who's still left on the D side who isn't a dirty commie. I'd suspect there's not a lot of the old Clinton era people left
 
Worst case scenario you dont get detained. Some places you lose a few hours, some a few days.
The police officer who shot Johnson in error was was identified, and tried, and his charges were dismissed, pending re-training. He was diverted/sentenced by Judge Darren B. Simpson, who appears to be unaffiliated, but apparently frustrated some local republicans in a lawsuit I don't really care enough to look into the details of. It appears that justice was served in this case even if the outcome may be a rather bitter pill to swallow; unless you're doubting the efficacy of the judiciary.

Jose Hermosillo is now a free man. He is also retarded, and doesn't speak Spanish very well, despite having been interviewed in Spanish. Does he speak any English? I can't find a source saying what he's able to speak at all. He himself claims he can't read. So a special needs kid who is unable to express himself and possibly non-verbal at all is detained for a few days until someone who is able to speak on his behalf (his attorney, or a judge), can be found and then he is freed. Do you expect me to disregard the exacerbating circumstances as to why there might be a delay in his processing?

I'm those extreme cases sure. In current incidents we're having agents refuse to give badge numbers or not have them visible. This is during interactions at traffic stops or door to door investigations. This has led to some unfortunate incidents of people impersonating ICE agents to commit crimes.

Source?
 
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Holy shit that goes straight to the top of the backlog too.
Drama Queen is only okay. It's not really a must read. It's pretty clear the mangaka got told by the studio to shut the fuck up on the illegal immigrant parallels because it racked up a lot of PR damage very quickly. The series after the few chapters stops being heckin' based and instead shifts focus for awhile. Nowadays it's basically forgotten. It's still going, and it's arguably still decent enough, but it's really spinning it's wheels now that it's main message got hampered.
 
Bro, you have no idea. There is one side. MAGA did covid and loved every second of it. What do you people not get about MAGA being a liberal ideology. You aren't winning. What you're cheering isn't happening the way you think it is. There are no MASSIVELY MASS DEPORTATION going on.
You talk like a fag and your shit’s all retarded. Please present yourself to your nearest immigration enforcement officer to air your complaints and grievances and I’m sure they will be more than happy to assist you.
 
Looking at it from the other side of the pond, your parties get generationally replaced. Name stays the same but the people inside come and go in waves. As round 2020 most republicans got replaced with MAGA people. This was signal boosted by the media as becoming "extremist"

At the exact same time, or maybe even for a longer period of time, the Democrats are being replaced by the DSA. The media doesn't signal boost this of course, but looking how high people like Mamdami got & he's one of those that don't even hide it anymore, I'd be serious about doing a tally who's still left on the D side who isn't a dirty commie. I'd suspect there's not a lot of the old Clinton era people left
A lot of the clintonians got rolling into Obama's admin but most were gone after biden because Biden does not like obama's people. That's why Biden's policies were so radical. Clinton/Obama was more restrained and cynical whereas these new operatives are true believers.
 
The Pretti killing is much more ambiguous than the Good one,

"Ambiguous" ? Are you actually fucking stupid? This man was VIOLENT. He was an agitator. Most rational people when they break their ribs fighting law enforcement would back the fuck off and thank God above that he was lucky and flee the scene. Alex Pretti was a fucking moron. He was a useful idiot. He was a "true believer". This man's behavior is what got him shot. Don't want to be shot by ICE or the police? Don't fuckin' do that.
 
They now have Null Derangement Syndrome.
What I find most amusing is they all suck each other off in their thread about how USPG2 raids them all the time, then they raid our threads, get threadbanned, and cry about favoritism. We're way more diverse than them, too. We have our Mossad agent, our resident doomposter, a drunk who can barely spell, a fat spastic Mormon with no game, an idiot from NH who uses recycled tires; the list goes on. TES just has the same Reddit-tier "seriously, we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes" copypasta.

Plus, we have Captain Planetposting, Stargateposting, and Dr. Strangeloveposting. The problem with TES is they don't like fun.
 
Ah, see there you have it. Shill tactics. I never said anything about that. Classic propaganda technique. Good job.
Either you want to do it, or you're siding with the people who do. There is no practical difference at this point.

(Alternatively, you could be a complete fucking retard and not understand the ramifications of the argument you're making, but I'm trying to be charitable.)

By masking, you make it so it is far more difficult to hold them accountable and you make it a certainty that it'll cause fucked up retard shit JUST LIKE WITH WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH PETTI.
Pretti looks like a justified takedown followed by either a clean shoot, or an unfortunate accident. I can come to that conclusion with the many, many videos of the event. Having the same videos without the masks doesn't change that, and it doesn't change the investigation. The only thing it does it let morons like you (or your fellow-travelers) go harass them before the investigation is complete, and for the rest of their lives after as well.

Again, none of the "problems" the mask whiners can point to have anything to do with the investigations or review process. It's entirely a frustration of extrajudicial retaliation, wrapped in the concern troll language of future accountability.
 
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