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Should be a wild four years.

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TyrasGuard said:
"Immigrants aren't the reason why your life is shitty", aka "how does this affect you personally?".

God, how are these people fucking real? Why are they here, the arguments are like 1:1 what people on r/politics say.
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These are colonists not immigrants.
 
GameratePTSD said:
It's so funny to frame this as vulnerable widdle Tim Walz being "sold a lie" like he was an honest unassuming Okie being swindled by streetsharp Don. Tim is the one lying to the libs to save his own skin, you pinhead Turk.
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This is also admitting that Tim is so retarded he could be swindled by Cheeto Hitler.
 
Vivziepop Hitler said:
But this thread loves browns, specifically Indians.
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How could it please you that Null is diametrically opposed to your personal views?
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I don’t know why this was so neg rated. Indian women are not the same as Indian men, obviously. The fact they would go outside their race and date a white shows they don’t want any more of the Izzat-caste shit. Honestly, it’s not a bad sign. Many Indians reject the shitty caste they are born into and go to other countries because it is a worthless existence just to live in a 2-square mile radius until you die.

However, the ones who come over and invite 9 of their cousins and their family need to be kicked out.
 
God of Nothing said:
No generation after X will be able to afford a house. Gen Z can't even get into "entry-level" jobs. A significant amount of our tax dollars are laundered through the welfare programs that pay for everything they want. American citizens die every day at the hands of people who shouldn't even be here, making their deaths a complete waste and completely preventable. They don't bother to even learn English while expecting you to be fluent in Spanish. Their children will identify as their retarded shithole foreign country instead of the stable one that allows them to live a good life.

Am I missing anything?
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I'm an early Millennialish and I'm stuck in a small condo for the foreseeable, because even in my reasonable cost of living region everything is retardedly expensive, and I'm doing alright compared to some of my friends. The Zoomers are currently fucked, never mind Gen Alpha, and having two generations of relatively military aged men with no hope of reasonably improving their life status is one of those Not Good history lessons.

One side of my family is mostly heritage American, back to the Mayflower and getting thrown out of Plymouth colony types, the other side is more recent immigration, but my great grandfather and his brothers were Alsatian Germans, only prevented from building a brewing empire because of Prohibition. Thanks Puritanical faggots, both then and now, but that side of the family? Basically assimilated within a generation, fighting and sometimes dying for their new home. No keeping the old language, the old culture, whatever. Shit, I can't even talk about my Great Uncle who died in WWII because it would be too easy to track me down. Obviously, my ancestors were Whites, from similar cultures, with similar values, who threw everything to the wind and became Americans, no hyphen. I'm sure Null's family is similar. Pretending not to understand the difference between that and seething third-world masses is frankly insulting and offensive, especially from posters who know better.
 
Rykel22 said:
It's been a while since I've studied this period, but I'm fairly sure the north grew in political power because of development(factories, mining, etc.) while the south stagnated under the slavery plantation system. There's a sort of irony here that its Minnesota(a midwest state hurt by the moving of industry and influx of the new slave cast) is the poster child of this era.
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The Industrial Revolution definitely did play a role to an extent but the establishment of ethnic enclaves and political pandering also helped. We can also historically see the displacement of Americans from existing jobs by immigrant labor in the 19th century. In the North for example the Lowell girls of the Lowell mills in Massachusetts who were known for clamoring about labor rights eventually had to deal with immigrants arriving primarily from Ireland and child laborers taking their jobs. Meanwhile in the South in Louisiana, late into the 1800s there was number of Italians who had been brought in by the business community to replace Black labor as they were said to be more efficient.
 
Dagoth AMOGUS said:
I don’t know why this was so neg rated. Indian women are not the same as Indian men, obviously. The fact they would go outside their race and date a white shows they don’t want any more of the Izzat-caste shit. Honestly, it’s not a bad sign.

But it’s not a good sign either.
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They are still genetically Indians and your children will inherit the meekness slave mentality of male jeets (as well as the creepy rape genes), just like male hapas are clinically insane.
 
Imperial Citizen said:
As a TES thread poster, I can say that the disagreement with ICE comes down to their current methods. ICE can and should throw the illegals out of the country. Yet rolling up on a suburban street and grabbing an illegal off the sidewalk is not productive.

It has turned public perception of ICE into brutal thugs, turning simple arrests into national spectacles. And it seems like the administration is fine with that media attention. But is it the best use of time and resources? What is it, like 10% of DHS agents are in Minneapolis now? How many illegals are we detaining in Minneapolis per DHS agent? We should be mobilizing agents in the Southern border states, where millions of illegals live.

What have we gotten over the last few weeks in Minnesota? We may have gotten criminal scum out, but the American public only sees two Americans killed by government agents and children being detained and used as bait. We have a potential federal shutdown over ICE funding.

There is growing backlash to ICE and their current policies seem to further that backlash. I can foresee the ‘No borders’ leftists capitalizing on this and flooding the country even further. I want illegals out, but all I can see is the current ICE policies creating such a pendulum swing that will bring more illegals in.
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Again I don’t know why this was neg rated but you missed a few things. Some state and local PDs have been told to not cooperate with ICE and so they have to roll their sleeves up and get dirty, so to speak.

Minnesota has a REALLY bad problem too. They have deported so many Somalians that they have lost a congressional district. They went from 10 seats to 9. I don’t know what the current rules are but that is like 10% of the population I think.

Basically if states cooperate with the feds on seizing illegals, it would be so smooth you’d never have to see it.

This isn’t partisan, but I think Tim Walz is compromised. He had a career in teaching but left suddenly, his family refused to endorse him in 2024, and there are some credible allegations that he paid off some parents. I think the DNC are using the testimony of possible victims as leverage to make him do stupid policy. He picked a good year to quit politics by the way. Rather than be voted out he is stepping down which is something I hope for. I don’t know the guy, but I don’t like him, personally.

As for “what could happen” well, if I were clairvoyant I wouldn’t be here lol. I hope that doesn’t happen but who can say

Let me know if I missed anything there is much to read and catch up on in this thread
 
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Vermilion A said:
Reading those "Trump lost, it's hopeless, we're gonna lose in 2026 and 2028, we're all going to the gulag" posts and you realize they're the right wing equivalent to lib women writing about the inevitable Christofascist theocracy where they will all be brooding mares to powerful, brutish men. It's political erotica for psychic casualties oneshot by social media.

The left obviously doesn't consider it a victory, because otherwise they'd be flooding right wing spaces to gloat. They're trying to run with the idea that ICE is facing a recruiting crisis thanks to their efforts, but don't have the receipts to prove it. Meanwhile, this thread alone attests to the opposite, as @LiquidKid showed. Huge backlogs in applicants.


It's entirely mask off now.

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They're not even bothering to maintain the facade they're pro-worker anymore. It's an explicit lumpenprole/elite political coalition. If you're working and neither a graduate nor brown, the left is open about the fact they are opposed to your interests.
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>So stupid he decided to fight a group of like 6 federal officers
>With a gun notorious for going off on it's own shoved in his waistband
>Right after he had already gotten his rib broken trying to fight another group of cops
>"The best of us"
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Lewl, I guess they really are sending their best
 
Being a Democrat for the 2028 presidential election looks grim. These are apparently their top candidates:
  • Gavin Newsom- disliked widely in California, and is still seen as “too moderate” by the most rabid progressives
  • Kamala Harris- she’s being considered again, but is a complete charisma vacuum and cracks easily under pressure
  • AOC- isn’t as rabidly progressive as she once was, but has a persona that only appeals to the bluest of blue cities
  • Josh Shapiro- will definitely alienate the “free Palestine” faction of the left, and couldn’t bring themselves to vote for a Jew
I know there’s probably a few more, but these choices look awful. I’d be dooming too if I were a Democrat if these were my options
 
I follow some semi obscure international shipping channels and this one meme about the Federal Maritime Commission actions in wrangling International shipping loopholes seems is so esoteric, I thought yall would like it
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Is some good work by them, the Venezuela shit really highlighted how bad the Ghost/Dark Fleet problem has gotten
 
JambledUpWords said:
Being a Democrat for the 2028 presidential election looks grim. These are apparently their top candidates:
  • Gavin Newsom- disliked widely in California, and is still seen as “too moderate” by the most rabid progressives
  • Kamala Harris- she’s being considered again, but is a complete charisma vacuum and cracks easily under pressure
  • AOC- isn’t as rabidly progressive as she once was, but has a persona that only appeals to the bluest of blue cities
  • Josh Shapiro- will definitely alienate the “free Palestine” faction of the left, and couldn’t bring themselves to vote for a Jew
I know there’s probably a few more, but these choices look awful. I’d be dooming too if I were a Democrat if these were my options
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They're floating around Mark Kelly too now.
 
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