📚 Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Otterly]

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The model is designed for cis men (because of course it is lol) and has two cylinders that go in the penis itself. People post phallo usually only get one cylinder simply because of how much room they take up. We don’t have the same internal anatomy as natal penises, which is why they can’t become erect on their own in the first place. Two cylinders is possible to place, but my surgeon didn’t recommend it. He showed me a model of the implant and the two cylinders were quite girthy and extremely firm.

This brings a new meaning to the phrase, “not firing on all cylinders”

 

[hey god it's me again]

I had significant wound dehiscence and large parts of my canal had no skin covering it at all, meaning I was sliding the dilator over muscle and fat

I know what I signed up for whenever I read this thread, but this shit right here made me recoil. There's gotta be a special place in hell reserved for Mengelesque butchers doing what-fucking-ever with these surgeries, playing coin toss on whether they should follow the Hippocratic oath or not that day

On one hand I'm glad that trannies remove themselves from the gene pool through the process, but on the other it is truly insidious how legal protection from botched/ experimental SRS is systemized. Bowers got away with fucking up Jazz Jennings, and will likely also get away with leaving this tranny to dilate into literal flesh. Grim.

 

[gampboonerisms]

The minimum stay in the hospital for that minor surgery is three days.

Lol what? I had the gallbladder and the appendix removed 10 years apart and both time, 1 hour after I woke up they kicked me out.

I know what I signed up for whenever I read this thread, but this shit right here made me recoil. There's gotta be a special place in hell reserved for Mengelesque butchers doing what-fucking-ever with these surgeries, playing coin toss on whether they should follow the Hippocratic oath or not that day

On one hand I'm glad that trannies remove themselves from the gene pool through the process, but on the other it is truly insidious how legal protection from botched/ experimental SRS is systemized. Bowers got away with fucking up Jazz Jennings, and will likely also get away with leaving this tranny to dilate into literal flesh. Grim.

I read that sentence and thought "well it's not like he's a woman with the female organs, what else, if not muscle and fat, is he pushing against?"

 

[Positron]

I was still in severe pain that had forced me to withdraw from all athletic competitions I had intended to participate in that year.

Male or female competitions?

 

[Iron Jaguar]

Male or female competitions?

You know. We all do.

I'm actually pleased to see Marci Bowers is doing her level best to keep trannies out of women's sports.

That troon's wife is definitely going to leave him. Assuming she is indeed a woman, what on Earth makes them go along with it when these perverted lunatics decide to have their penises cut off?

 

[toilet_rainbow]

Finally, a tragic tranny tells the terrifying tale of being a patient of one Dr. Marci Bowers, the same butcher infamous for mutilating Jazz Jennings. Highlights for this story include passing out from internal bleeding, post-operative prolapse, OP being in so much pain he nearly ripped the bicep off of the bone of his partner and, as always, appearances from The SRS Sisters: necrosis, permanent nerve damage and granulation. Fun for the whole family!
Opening_Design_9079 (Dr. Marci Bowers; penile-inversion vaginoplasty (PIV))

It always makes me MATI when one of these fuckers goes to an OBGYN and forces them to look at their bashed up junk. He can win all the stupid prizes, but no fair that they have to play along

 

[The Great Ducktator]

But what other doctor would be appropriate for stinkditch issues? I fear the gynecologists are going to be saddled with this, because all the troons go to them until Dr. Winchester makes a housecall.

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

Day 3: On the third day after bottom surgery

...my surgeon gave to meee...nine months of paaaaaain!

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

But what other doctor would be appropriate for stinkditch issues?

Wound care specialist, like one of those doctors some diabetics have to go to. Ultimately, it's an open wound that's trying to heal shut while he's trying desperately to keep it open. The pretense that it's anything but that is part of why he's in this situation.

Edit: Not a medfag btw so I'm just making a guess here about what the appropriate specialty would be.

 

[Anasa Tristis]

But what other doctor would be appropriate for stinkditch issues?

A dermatologist. There is no gyn anywhere up in there. It's a skin lined rot pocket. So a skin doc would be my recommendation.

@Magic Pickle: That was an impressive gunt on Cleanbird there. Which absolutely does not impact his health, LOL. JFC. The surgical team probably had to truss it up for the doc to even get close to his crotch.

The other troon whining about discovering blood in his undies after 6 years of ditch bliss made me snort in derision too. It grosses him out?! Most troons would be thrilled about finally menstruating! Even if just a little bit. HRT magic and all that. Amateur. He's an amateur "woman" and an amateur troon.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

But what other doctor would be appropriate for stinkditch issues? I fear the gynecologists are going to be saddled with this, because all the troons go to them until Dr. Winchester makes a housecall.

Wound care specialist, like one of those doctors some diabetics have to go to. Ultimately, it's an open wound that's trying to heal shut while he's trying desperately to keep it open. The pretense that it's anything but that is part of why he's in this situation.

Edit: Not a medfag btw so I'm just making a guess here about what the appropriate specialty would be.

A dermatologist. There is no gyn anywhere up in there. It's a skin lined rot pocket. So a skin doc would be my recommendation.

@Magic Pickle: That was an impressive gunt on Cleanbird there. Which absolutely does not impact his health, LOL. JFC. The surgical team probably had to truss it up for the doc to even get close to his crotch.

The other troon whining about discovering blood in his undies after 6 years of ditch bliss made me snort in derision too. It grosses him out?! Most troons would be thrilled about finally menstruating! Even if just a little bit. HRT magic and all that. Amateur. He's an amateur "woman" and an amateur troon.

My only other thoughts were either a urologist or the surgeon himself (lol lmao even I know), but this would be the best solution. Having the gyno look at it is for enabling his entitlement than actually giving him medical care.

The fact that there is no cut and dry procedure on what to do for post-op complications should be as major a red flag about how unregulated these surgeries are as those shoddy "99% satisfaction" studies.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

It's a skin lined rot pocket.

In theory it should be, but it sounds like this dude doesn't have much skin left. I guess a dermatologist might work for those who do, but would they still be able to deal with the colon-lined ones? Should the owners of those 'ditches see a coloproctologist instead? Some are made from tilapia skin, apparently, so those ones should probably see a veterinarian. There's just so much variance between stinkditch procedures because it's unregulated and experimental surgery, like @toilet_rainbow says. The only certainty about rot pockets this point is what they aren't.

 

[The Great Ducktator]

In theory it should be, but it sounds like this dude doesn't have much skin left. I guess a dermatologist might work for those who do, but would they still be able to deal with the colon-lined ones? Should the owners of those 'ditches see a coloproctologist instead? Some are made from tilapia skin, apparently, so those ones should probably see a veterinarian. There's just so much variance between stinkditch procedures because it's unregulated and experimental surgery, like @toilet_rainbow says. The only certainty about rot pockets this point is what they aren't.

Totally. Which is why I believe the gyns will be left holding the bag. Because they are the troons first choice, they as a collective will get the most experience dealing with the aftermath of these surgeries. The surgeons themselves could do it, but their aftercare only lasts until the cheque clears.

 

[Scientifically Inaccurate]

They go to an OBG/YN because they've been sold the lie that it's literally a vagina and just go along with it. Thinking of trying out the wound specialist or anything else would require not believing they've just had a vagina installed like new wheels on their car.

It would be an interesting experiment to survey them with the questions - what does dilation actually do and why is it necessary for you to do it when a real woman doesn't? and see what they come up with.

 

[Otterly]

Should the owners of those 'ditches see a coloproctologist instead?

Psychiatry. They need to see a psychiatrist.
And wound care.

 

[Me•cha•ni•cal]

They go to an OBG/YN because they've been sold the lie that it's literally a vagina and just go along with it. Thinking of trying out the wound specialist or anything else would require not believing they've just had a vagina installed like new wheels on their car.

Idk why but it never even occurred to me that these men would think to go to a obgyn with their mutilated dicks. Like, wtf is the obgyn supposed to do??

Reading this thread should be mandatory prior to every SRS. Bless you @Magic Pickle for documenting this. Out of curiosity, do these surgeries ever end up being not a complete shit show? What does a ”success” story look like to troons? Only 2-3 reconstructions?

 

[JohnnyG]

Idk why but it never even occurred to me that these men would think to go to a obgyn with their mutilated dicks. Like, wtf is the obgyn supposed to do??

You haven't seen the indignant social media posts by troons angry that the obgyn wouldn't validate them? For many/most it's part of the fetish: making normal people play along with their paraphilia.

Same reason they infest every female-oriented pReddit group, from "Two X Chromosomes" to ones for women who've lost pregnancies or suffered from cervical cancer. They have no possible reason for being there, but force their way in and make themselves the centre of attention.

But what other doctor would be appropriate

I guess a dermatologist ... but would they still be able to deal with the colon-lined ones? Should the owners of those 'ditches see a coloproctologist instead?

They go to an OBG/YN because they've been sold the lie

Right, what's "appropriate" isn't relevant. Every troon advocacy group on the planet would reject the idea of sending troons to a colorectal surgeon, because having "access" to "women's healthcare" (a waiting room of actual women for them to loudly discuss their "girlhood" in front of) is an essential human right.

Same reason their ideology compels there to be no limits to the most perverse among them: either troonery is a magical, sacred identity that can never be questioned or have any boundaries, or it's subject to scrutiny that could make the whole delusion unravel.

 

[Magic Pickle]

Out of curiosity, do these surgeries ever end up being not a complete shit show? What does a ”success” story look like to troons? Only 2-3 reconstructions?

Spoiler: I am not an expert, but I play one on TV!

There are two things one must keep in mind when it comes to transgender surgeries and the patients who receive them:

1. These are not honest people. Not in the sense that they are all destined to be liars, but many engage in extreme self-delusion and denial about reality and their circumstances. Even when their genitals are falling off of their actual fucking bodies (like Eve Panzarino), they will screech "No regrets!" and "It was so worth it!" when normal people would admit to their mistakes. But these people can't and won't be truthful about the reality of the situation unless things are so dire that they are literally forced to, such as in the cases of Veinscrawler, Legal-Ad4972, etc.
2. This is a group with very twisted expectations of what success would look like. For them, the neovulvas and neopenises that pass/"look totally cis" do not look this way to anybody outside of their demographic. This makes what they self-report even trickier to decipher; when your idea of success is "capable of orgasm, can urinate without issue, doesn't hurt to sit," then yes, a lot of them would meet those bare minimum metrics... but these all come pre-installed on your natal packaging (provided you don't have additional medical issues impacting them). Not exactly landing a victory for the surgeries, there.

To put it succinctly: yes, there are surgeries that do not end up being shit shows, if you measure by the metrics of whether or not serious infections were contracted, did nerve damage heal over time, were aesthetics as close as physically possible to natal genitalia, etc. There are success stories in that many patients manage to avoid being on medications, needing pelvic floor therapy, fistula repairs, so on and so forth, and many patients do claim to be orgasmic and capable of climax. There are patients who don't suffer severe complications down the line and overall report that they are satisfied and comfortable with their choice.

However, imagining that they aren't simply wallpapering over their own misery as to not give wins to the transphobes, none of this proves that transgender surgeries are good or ethical to perform; instead, I posit that all of this is proof that the human body's resilience is a marvel to be astonished by. If you sat on a landmine and could still feel your lower half, that's not suggesting landmines should be put into chairs, it means that your body is one hell of a machine made up of flesh, blood and a refusal to go down without a fight.

Really, their idea of success is warped because they will do anything to keep the access to these surgeries open for more victims as they feel they have to by obligation of their community. For us regular people who love to piss and cum with impunity, even the "good" ones are still the results of barbaric procedures that should be performed by only godless orcs in a dystopian high fantasy setting with BDSM vibes instead of the modern day world we live in.

TL;DR: Many of these weirdos would start shoving pozzed statistics in your face that claim that SRS procedures have the lowest regret rate of any major surgical procedure, but once you draw back the curtain and see what they say when they think nobody is listening, they are far more honest about the reality of their lives once they've left the hospital.

Blah, blah, blah. Sorry, I've been cooped up over bad weather for days, so I've gone a bit batty. Let me post some thread tax as an apology.

Flatwoods monster: after only a couple of months after his surgery, a troon is displeased with how odd his genitals look, resembling the opening of an alien mouth moreso than a vagina. "It's like they've just folded my penis flat," he writes; though despite this complaint, he actually praises the overall functionality of it, which includes being comfortable wearing jeans. Well, as long as your hot girl denim fits snug as a bug in a rug, I suppose it's not all bad, right?
DontWasteYourMoni (Dr. Singto; vaginoplasty)
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2 months post op Dr Singto​

I probably won't keep this up for very long for obvious reasons but I just wanted to see if I can get some advice from anyone who has experienced the same thing.

I'm two months post op SRS with Dr Singto. I've been struggling a lot with how rasied my results have been particularly with the labia and monds area. It's likely due to their different technique but it feels as though I have a considerable amount of spongy material left where the upper part of my vagina is. Its hard to tell from the pictures but it's quite raised and becomes very obvious and uncomfortable during arousal. The minora is quite a bit larger than the majora and this seems to be because the base is being pushed out from tissue underneath the skin. I'm told from people who have had similar surgery that this goes down around 6 months but from pictures of seen this just isn't the case for them at all. It's like they've just folded my penis flat and left everything in place and functional. is this something that can be fixed with revision, will that swelling actually subside? this is really troubling me

Spoiler: His aggressively male pelvis is the icing on the cake.

I could've sworn I'd seen this guy's goofy looking result before, but a cursory glance through my archives did not indicate that I had, so I'm posting him like he's fresh anyway. But this guy has a seriously hilarious result, because no matter how many hands manage to hack and slash away at his crotch, the tip of his once-penis continues to peek through the crevice leading into him like a poltergeist watching from the end of a hallway.
YumaoqiuThrowAway (Dr. Amir Taghinia, Dr. Oren Ganor, and Dr. Richard Yu; vaginoplasty / Dr. Winograd and Dr. Drzewiecki; revision (urethroplasty, z-plasty, and clitoral hood formation))
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1 year after 3rd revision. (4 photos) Still unsatisfied. Any advice?​

Photo 4 is when aroused and I clench. Or when I dilate.

Initial surgery was a little over 4 years ago with Dr. Amir Taghinia, Dr. Oren Ganor, and Dr. Richard Yu at Boston Children's Hospital.

First revision was with them as well.

Reason being was that it was, frankly, a horrible result. (You can check my history)

I was deeply unsatisfied with the first revision and went to MGH for my second revision for a urethroplasty and then a third revision to get a proper clitoral hood and fix the tissue over the vaginal canal in hopes of making dilation easier.

I'm still unsatisfied and honestly feel incredibly disheartened. Especially after seeing all of the amazing results in this subreddit. Is this even still salvagable? Not to mention the unsightly scarring.

The clitoral hood barely covers anything. The labia is very asymetrical. And I don't even know why the urethroal plate is still so prominent after already being reduced in size twice. I have never seen anyone else with a result like mine.

I haven't dilated in 7 months because frankly, I don't even want to look down there. I dilated very frequently during the first year, so I'm not too worried about losing depth.

It's width that's been the issue for the most part. I have never been able to get past the second dilator successfully. When I tried the third dilator, it just starts feeling painful and also looking like the 4th photo. Although the speculum my surgeon used to check my canal back in June was able to fit all the way in. So maybe there's hope in that regard at least.

I also have a lot of trouble cleaning the canal. Any fluids that get sent up there (like lubrication) seem to just stay in there and start smelling.

I don't know, should I keep trying with this surgeon because they are covered by my insurance and the incremental improvements seem to at least be better than the original team? Or start saving for someone like Dr. Bluebond-Langner or something?

It's really frustrating that I'm still dealing with something that should have ideally been taken care of 4 years ago.

Thank you all for reading, I just don't know what to do

Spoiler: Reminds me of a clogged toilet bubbling up.

This troon has such a stupid, box-like body that I don't even know why he would bother getting his dick torn off when his chromosomes are blatant from the very shape of his skeleton. Not to mention that it doesn't even look like Brassard tried to make a psuedoclitoris - but then again, we've seen the variety of... er, "clitorises" on MTFs, so maybe it's better if it looks more like a keyhole glimpsing into a world of meat and terror.
alt_account_1741 (Dr. Brassard; penile-inversion vaginoplasty (PIV))
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PIV 19 days post-op (Brassard/GRS Montreal) ​

Previous update: https://www.reddit.com/r/Transgender_Surgeries/s/VVtlItu6OX

Much of the fibrin has sloughed off, leaving a very raw looking bit of flesh underneath.

Bruising has gone down significantly.

Hard to gauge what my depth really is, since things are so swollen and open still, I can't see where exactly my labia would close on the dilator. But I think 1 dot is left outside, at my full depth.

Spoiler: Thanks for the dilator pic, because I had no clue which hole was meant to be the "vagina."

A man cracks open his Pandora's box and seems to be surprised when he finds demons within.
ProjectOdd7225 (Dr. Theerapong and Dr. Amani; vaginoplasty)
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I noticed these today, should I be worried? ​

Spoiler: Sincerely, I don't actually know what he's talking about, either.

Big back blues: upon getting her notable knockers cut off of her body, a TiF finds new things to complain about in terms of her appearance as she worries that her back is still obviously feminine even sans breasts. Though she opted not to keep her nipples (for reasons unspecified), she whines that she feels "kinda like an alien," which compelled such a wellspring of I-Could've-Told-You-That-Numbnuts that I had to lock away my tophats lest they fix to my head like Brain Slugs.
More-Environment-355 (bilateral cosmetic mastectomy with double incision + no nipple grafts)
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The excitement of post-surgery has worn off and now I’m feeling so insecure.​

I got my DI surgery in September and I’m a couple weeks shorts of 5 months post-op. I opted for no nipples grafts and had huuuuge boobs.

Now, I’m left with a 22 inch line from left to right all the way across my chest (which I don’t mind, been calling it My Line lol). I had quite a few complications; drains had to stay in for almost 3 weeks to a month, I had a seroma right in the center of my chest that everyone said would re-absorb but I’m still left with a visible oval under my skin and is chest covered by unnaturally malleable and sensitive skin. I also have two big fat pads where my side boob/armpit fat was and still is. I understand that they could only take away what they could access while I was face up on the table, but I’m distraught and honestly dysphoric due to it.

From the front I’m semi ok with it, but from the back I look the exact same, it just looks like I still have the same size boobs. I’ve been steadily losing weight before my surgery until now but it’s not budging and I can barely look at myself sometimes. It’s also been such a huge adjustment to my belly being on display and not balanced by my boobs, but clothes can hide that.

I’m going to Mexico in two weeks. I’m terrified of people seeing me, and still having to wear a shirt when I’m in the sun or water to protect my scar. I was originally excited to feel kinda like an alien and now, I just don’t like body. I know it takes time to adjust but… I find myself wishing I could go back in time and lose a whole bunch of weight before my surgery - granted I couldn’t even run without my boobs choking me out.

I know others will relate, I know it’s normal, I don’t know what I need, just wish they could have been more transparent with this being a massive possibility.

Oh god and the never ending stretch marks are killing me.

Spoiler: Holding the line.

Now for our text posts.
It seems summertime sadness followed ispilledmybean through the autumn and into the winter as he now claims that he's got leftover aches and pains two years after he'd gotten his procedure (and revision) performed. But because he's gone no-contact with Dr. Figler, the guy who did this to him in the first place, he's forced to seek advice from Reddit on how to take care of his horror-hole.
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strong discomfort two years in​

hello,
I had SRS almost two years ago I believe and a revision one year ago. The surgery did not go well for me and the revision failed to address my concerns, which led to a depressive spiral for me. I largely stopped dilating at all afterwards, going sometimes multiple weeks without. Now, about a year later, I am finally starting to take better care of myself and do it at least every other day.
since getting back to it regularly, I have noticed a considerable discomfort from within my abdomen when lying down after dilating. it almost feels as though I constantly have to poop. I do not believe that I have a fistula as I have no other symptoms; it more just feels like I am irritating my bowels or colon.
I have not been very gentle while dilating - to try and regain the lost ~half inch in depth, I have been pushing quite hard and using other inadvisable tactics like pushing while rotating, etc. but these are not new tactics for me- I did this initially as well and did not have this discomfort. I will also say this feeling usually begins while I am dilating towards the end.
Is this a side effect of starting to dilate again after so long or a sign of a deeper issue? If so, who should I talk to about it? I live in a red state and am no longer in contact with my surgeon due to his surgical incompetence and complete lack of people skills.
thank you for the help!!

In the wake of getting her pussy turned into pastrami, a woman fears that she has been botched - so botched, in fact, that she fears being mocked if she dared to share her results to others. C'mon, don't be shy, me and my archival tools won't hurt ya!
CommercialTime3594 (metoidioplasty)
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afraid my surgery was botched​

had surgery a few weeks ago and honestly to me it looks like jumbled up pieces of flesh i’ve never seen anyone post op look anything like what i’ve got going on and i’m really afraid it was botched. i don’t want to post pictures publicly but if i could dm someone privately for a second opinion i would really appreciate it. just in a really dark place at the moment

 

[farmer andy]

Wound care specialist, like one of those doctors some diabetics have to go to. Ultimately, it's an open wound that's trying to heal shut while he's trying desperately to keep it open.

See that’s your problem right there - what you’re looking for is a wound uncare specialist.

The other troon whining about discovering blood in his undies after 6 years of ditch bliss made me snort in derision too.

Come on now, let’s cut the poor guy a break. We’ve all regretted having the vindaloo ‘hot’ at least once in our lives. Put a roll of TP in the fridge when you get home from the Indian restaurant. That’s my advice.

 

[The Salt Mines]

It would be an interesting experiment to survey them with the questions - what does dilation actually do and why is it necessary for you to do it when a real woman doesn't? and see what they come up with.

You can see this cognitive dissonance and beating back of reality knocking here on something @Magic Pickle posted earlier.

Basically it's a lot of yelling "WELL DILATION IS MOSTLY A CIS WOMEN THING" into the void and hoping that the echo that comes back is affirming.