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Should be a wild four years.

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most white americans can trace their predominant ancestry to the British Isles, Germany, or Italy

where do you faggots wanna live
Would I have to go back to Britain or would I still be Australian? I ask because I've been to England and that place is even gayer and more lib than the coastal cunt cities of Australia.
 
The jury found him innocent so there really is nothing that can be done.

He can't be charged again, the DoJ sure ain't going to appeal a unanimous jury decision because the appeals court would laugh it out so fast so yea...the spic walks free. End of story.
I mean, there's gotta be SOMETHING that can be done, right? Like, if I found a way to legally murder government employees, it wouldn't stand, no? It would just be treated as me finding a loophole that would be closed immediately. I mean, these fuckers are one step away from legalizing armed rebellion against the administration, why isn't anyone doing anything?

Sorry, I'm clueless about this shit. I'm also prepared for the sticker section of this post to look like San Fran in June.
 
What exactly is the middle ground you would prefer? Do you believe we need to get rid of an insane amount of illegals? Would your method actually remove the vast numbers of them in a time that would even help reduce the total number of illegals?

I keep hearing people agree with ICE removing people, but then this moaning about how they are doing it. What exactly do you want them to do?
In all honesty I do think Trump needs to start targeting the economic side of this harder. He already missed being able to go after the remittance side of this harder but he needs to start targeting mid level employers that make use of illegal labor more. The ICE raids are frankly a slog and should only be a means to an end (that end being buck breaking leftist municipalities which have been proudly flaunting the fact that they defy federal laws for decades now), they're too inefficient by themselves.
 
If the border was enforced and we didn't ignore the immigration issues for like 40 years shit wouldn't have to be done so aggressively.
People really don't appreciate this reality enough. Unwinding 1-2 years of unenforced border would be messy. Every additional year makes it messier. Undoing multiple generations of border failures was never going to be pretty.

This is like someone who spends $100 more than he earns every month, and takes out a loan to cover the difference. He does this for 40 years straight. At the end someone forces him to pay down his $100k+ debt, and he's shocked that the minimum payment is more than his rent. "Why is this so extreme? I only overspent a little, I could afford to!"

Trump has 4 years to address 6 decades of damage, before a Democrat might come into power and shut it all down. He knows he has to hit hard to undo any of it, to any appreciable degree. If the Democrats or Republicans could be trusted to carry out slower, thoughtful, longer term reform... but they've been feckless double talking weasels since Reagan. Nobody believes them any more, and nobody should trust them with this task.
 
Id like to formally admit I was wrong

The dyke hit a fed with her car and I was, AT BEST, splitting hairs at worse just downright wrong.

I know alot of you think I "dident see the right angle" or "was ignoring shit to be obtuse" it was none of that, I truly thought she was "scared" or whatever idk or care. Point is ive POURED over every bit of the evidence and just want to issue an

I was wrong

feel bad for alot of these feds for the most part, must be hell tryna help your nation just to be yelled at all day by the worst of em.

Anyway, Did I miss anything yuge today?
 
I mean, there's gotta be SOMETHING that can be done, right? Like, if I found a way to legally murder government employees, it wouldn't stand, no? It would just be treated as me finding a loophole that would be closed immediately. I mean, these fuckers are one step away from legalizing armed rebellion against the administration, why isn't anyone doing anything?

Sorry, I'm clueless about this shit. I'm also prepared for the sticker section of this post to look like San Fran in June.
The loop hole is the government can't actually force you to vote guilty on a jury regardless of any amount of evidence they show you. And if you and everyone else shuts up and refuses to explain your reasoning, there is no hope of them getting it overturned. This is arguably a core part of the system and a check against tyranny. Just in this case to anyone with eyes it is being abused to allow for extreme action against something that is clearly not tyranny.

The IRS and FBI and DEA and etc. can look into every bit of the guys life and try to make it hell for other reasons if they want to. But outside of a jury member saying something stupid enough to get a mistrial (and even then if they did say something that should trigger a mistrial good luck getting a judge to overturn a jury not guilty verdict), the guy gets away with it.
 
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I mean, there's gotta be SOMETHING that can be done, right? Like, if I found a way to legally murder government employees, it wouldn't stand, no? It would just be treated as me finding a loophole that would be closed immediately. I mean, these fuckers are one step away from legalizing armed rebellion against the administration, why isn't anyone doing anything?

Sorry, I'm clueless about this shit. I'm also prepared for the sticker section of this post to look like San Fran in June.
A different federal court is bound to be able to take up the case, due to the bias of that district federal court. At least, one would hope?
 
Because there is no middle ground. The left allowed millions of illegal immigrants into the country and is fighting tooth and nail to impede any attempt of removing them. What is ICE supposed to do when the local governments are completely unwilling to cooperate with legal authorities and leftist agitators attack and disrupt operations? Do we pull a Reagan and grant amnesty to a few million and hope the left will pinky swear to not let it happen again? Mass deportations are ugly. They would be far less ugly if the left wasn't instigating. They wouldn't need to happen if the left was reasonable and implemented better border protections in the first place.
We had a workable system (if still pretty bad one) years ago when the states and federal cooperated and crimes committed by illegals would result it deportations- they fucked that all up.
 
People really don't appreciate this reality enough. Unwinding 1-2 years of unenforced border would be messy. Every additional year makes it messier. Undoing multiple generations of border failures was never going to be pretty.

This is like someone who spends $100 more than he earns every month, and takes out a loan to cover the difference. He does this for 40 years straight. At the end someone forces him to pay down his $100k+ debt, and he's shocked that the minimum payment is more than his rent. "Why is this so extreme? I only overspent a little, I could afford to!"

Trump has 4 years to address 6 decades of damage, before a Democrat might come into power and shut it all down. He knows he has to hit hard to undo any of it, to any appreciable degree. If the Democrats or Republicans could be trusted to carry out slower, thoughtful, longer term reform... but they've been feckless double talking weasels since Reagan. Nobody believes them any more, and nobody should trust them with this task.
Trump doesn't seem to be set on a successor president to do what he has roughly been doing, I know Vance is a lock for 2028 just by being the VP, he has been talking more about a potential "third term" instead of ensuring his political legacy continues through the next potential MAGA-endorsed candidate, which tells me that he only really cares about himself first and foremost and doesn't care what happens once he leaves office.
 
In an unrelated but funny political story, today I was talking to my dad and we got in an argument about ICE wearing masks and I said they have to wear masks to protect their identity because you know who else wears masks? Antifa, who want to physically harm them and their families.
He earnestly told me as a matter of fact that there is no such thing as antifa, that it is an urban legend made up by the Trump administration. This stupid idiot suffers so hard from TDS he actually thinks that antifa is some kind of samsquanch that orange man made up too sic ICE on people.
I love my step mom and I don't understand how he was able to pull off marrying her because she's such a nice lady, she shot me the funniest "Get a load of this fucking idiot" look when he said that and I smiled at her and it immediately defused the situation.
I love my dad and everything but he is the perfect example of in ragingly uninformed TDS sufferer. I swear to god at one point I just wanted to look at him and go "Holy shit, you are so fucking stupid now I know why mom left you and I'm so fucking glad she took me with her."
He's a normally intelligent and logical person, but it just goes to show you that people let their feelings get in the way so hard when it comes to Trump that they will believe whatever ridiculous narrative makes him the boogeyman.
 
The loop hole is the government can't actually force you to vote guilty on a jury regardless of any amount of evidence they show you. And if you and everyone else shuts up and refuses to explain your reasoning, there is no hope of them getting it overturned. This is arguably a core part of the system and a check against tyranny. Just in this case to anyone with eyes it is being abused to allow for extreme action against something that is clearly not tyranny.

The IRS and FBI and DEA and etc. can look into every bit of the guys life and try to make it hell for other reasons if they want to. But outside of a juryember saying something stupid enough to get a mistrial (and even then if they did say something that should trigger a mistrial good luck getting a judge to overturn a jury not guilty verdict), the guy gets away with it.
Jury selection is supposed to stop these kinds of things from happening, but what do you do when society becomes low trust and people become tribalized? If you don't start going super hard on the dissident far left and clean out the courts there won't be a system.
 
he only really cares about himself first and foremost and doesn't care what happens once he leaves office.
Yeah, he's a selfish narcissistic piece of shit, which is why we need to focus on Vance and build a new Republican party and not fall into the trap of worshiping a fucking douchebag who centers his whole life around his fragile little ego.
 
Yeah, he's a selfish narcissistic piece of shit, which is why we need to focus on Vance and build a new Republican party and not fall into the trap of worshiping a fucking douchebag who centers his whole life around his fragile little ego.
Trump is really the best and worst thing to have happened for the modern right, he pretty much rebooted and regalvanized the entire GOP and its supporters after 8 years of being sitting ducks during the Obama years and total DNC dominance and cultural relevance, but he's also just a massive prick in general.
 
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