US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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THIS IS WHAT SHOULD BE DONE EVERY TIME. manhandle these ignorant fucking niggers. everyone is recording, you're not going to get in trouble if you play it the way you know it can be done legally, and eventually, after snapped spines, broken necks and gunshots to the head, these retards MIGHT finally start to fucking learn. i really, really hate that this is who i am now. i was not like this even 5 years ago. the extremist rhetoric from their side has made me so fucking hateful for these people, but every time i try not to feel that way, they continue to fight against not only their own best interests, but the interests of the people they allegedly love.
I didn't grow up in a particularly conservative family (though the natural drift towards the right happened with us like it does with most families), but a self-evident truth I realized at a very young age was related to self-preservation: don't fuck with officials who have guns. You will not win as a civilian against a government this big. I don't know why people can't comprehend that bit of pragmatism.

Yes, you can run your mouth (and there are lots of legal protections and tons of police/government training for LEO about how far it can go), you can sue, and you can vote, but that's the pragmatic limit. If you step over that line into "ammo box" territory, you can die at the hands of your own government, and it may well decide it was justified and your survivors will get nothing. And no matter what happens, you are still dead. You're gone. Your life is over. Your children have lost a parent. Your parents have lost their child. Your coworkers have lost a colleague. You're not an island and you've just self-deleted from potentially many lives that might have valued you and helped make your life better.

It's the logical conclusion of "you can beat the rap, but you can't beat the ride." You can't litigate on the street. Any lawyer will tell you to shut your fucking mouth when you're pulled over for a traffic stop or challenged and questioned on the street by police. Provide ID, obey lawful orders (which basically means "do literally everything they tell you, because they're deciding what's 'lawful' right now, not you, and their bosses will back them up"), and otherwise shut the fuck up. Openly antagonizing such people is suicidal once the gloves come off, and these idiots are actively tugging on those gloves to get them off.

Any government in this world can absolutely fuck you up if it chooses to. It's not fair, it's often not right, but it's still the truth. Any authority figure in general can make your life miserable. Governments, with their self-proclaimed monopoly on legal violence, can make your life end. This society has gotten soft and forgotten this simple fact, partially because this government has long been soft on criminals. But ultimately, no government in history has ever tolerated open revolt for long, and these dumbasses are getting pretty close to it.

These officials calling for violence and even threatening to arrest ICE agents are playing a very dangerous game. When Trump finally decides to draw a line in the sand and start enforcing it, they're on the record in 4k crystal clear video saying this shit, and they'll be the first people the FBI "visit" when the round-up (or black-bagging) begins.

And as for the street protesters, they're begging for their own deaths and don't even realize it. I'm in agreement with you, that it's so weird to hear myself (see myself?) say such things, that even I might have called "bootlicking" in my more liberal days, but it's the truth. I actually want to see LEO rough up more of these people until they learn. I don't think most of the rabid AWFL types need anything more than a rough arrest, an overnight stay in jail, a dose of probation and a fine to figure out they're fucking their lives up for no reason. I do think the ones who cross into violent territory should be put down on the spot, because those will never get better and they're reaching a point where they can do real damage to our society if not stopped.

Nobody would ever dare bum-rush or try to protest a military base on American soil like these retards are doing at ICE facilities. They know the consequences -- the Weather Underground discovered them the hard way in the 1970's. The military gives zero fucks and will shoot you dead before you even get past the bollards at the front gate. Violently challenging civilian LEO needs to turn into that, IMHO. It will make things less stable for a time, but people need to learn to behave themselves around people with fucking guns and government authorization to use them.
 
Maddow tells Kimmel that protests in America are close to being an “unstoppable force” against Trump:

“Once you have 3.5% of a population protesting nonviolently against a dictator or an authoritarian, that is essentially an unstoppable force that they can't oppose, and that precludes them from consolidating dictatorial power."

"It's not that much larger a number than what we're already seeing in the streets against Trump."

These leftist faggots don't seem to understand that if Trump was truly a dictator or an Authoritarian they'd be in prison or dead.


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These faggots also don't understand that 3% of 340 million is over 10 million people.
 
Rebecca: "It's okay. We don't change our plates every morning, just so you know. It'll be the same plate when you come talk to us later. That's fine. US Citizen [unintelligible] fucking [unintelligible]. You want to come at us? I say get yourself some lunch, big boy. Go ahead."
she said something really gay about being a former veteran when like 30-50% of all federal workers, agents or just regular desk gimps are prior military anyway
 
I went into the TES trenches to see how they're reacting to the new ICE footage and they weren't even talking about it.
Selective ignorance is a virtue of the neoliberal.
From John Money, to Weimar, to Robert Byrd, to inner city murders, to tax money fraud, to Dodge v. Ford, to...
Well, just about everything, so it seems.
 
I just had an epiphany. All of these deranged “ICE observers” are the left’s version of sovereign citizens.

>If I say this magic legalese incantation and take off my license plate, the police officer won’t give me a ticket.

>If I blow this magic whistle and try to run over ICE agents, they’ll leave my Mexican landscaper alone.
I'm going to sound like a schizo, but I'm starting to think that the behaviour displayed by female leftists is a result of what they're taught about consent - which is basically that nothing is allowed to happen to you unless you want it to happen. Obviously the context in which they're taught this idea is sex: you can do anything you want with a guy (go home with him, get naked, get in bed with him, snuggle, etc etc), but he CAN'T have sex with you unless you give him permission! But they seem to have absorbed this lesson and applied it to every aspect of their lives. The rules are that they can say and do whatever they want, but nobody is allowed to react in a negative way because they don't have consent.
 
Remember how last week Commiefornia said they changed their minds about revoking the CDL's for illegals and migrants? Once the Federal funds hit the bank accounts on Jan 1st, Newsome did a 180 and say nah, we ain't doing that shit.

Well Trump said OK 2 can play at that game and revoked a grant of 180 million (just a drop in the bucket really) for upgrading some of Commiefornia's roads. Sure it's not much but it's a start and Trump will probably revoke what ever else comes across his desk for Commiefornia.

You can't trust a progressive as they have zero moral compass. Newsome said OK we'll take these illegals off the roads, just gimme the money first. Then of course once he got the money suddenly it's all like sorry man we just can't do that. Think of the illegals in our state, how will they make money if they can't drive massive semi-trucks all over America!

TLDR: Newsome lied about revoking illegals CDL's and Trump is taking away whatever funding he can't until he does. More grand-standing by Newsome as he tries to position himself as the only "sane" alternative to a fascist Trump dictatorship.

https://financialpost.com/pmn/calif...00-commercial-drivers-licenses-for-immigrants
 
Maddow tells Kimmel that protests in America are close to being an “unstoppable force” against Trump:

“Once you have 3.5% of a population protesting nonviolently against a dictator or an authoritarian, that is essentially an unstoppable force that they can't oppose, and that precludes them from consolidating dictatorial power."

"It's not that much larger a number than what we're already seeing in the streets against Trump."

These leftist faggots don't seem to understand that if Trump was truly a dictator or an Authoritarian they'd be in prison or dead.


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So she’s saying we need to go counter protest
 
Trump and his cabinet doing the oil exec presser, live now:


Vance rocking a Easter purple tie, Trump with a sapphire blue, Rubio going with burgundy. Trump already talking about the ballroom being built, gets up to point it out :story:.

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Hey does someone have that Vivek quote talking about how he's greater than kings and wears that Poojab rope around him? Need it for a thread. Also if anyone is interested on working on a Vivek thread, ping me. We are Yeeting the Jeet.
just for that page alone we can never have this guy touching levers of power, he is truly egomaniacal because of his insane upbringing, he wants power over you and thinks you are the lowest caste.
 
These faggots also don't understand that 3% of 340 million is over 10 million people.
we've seen the protests so far. they may have 10 million in a shithole bughive, or total if they get a ton of protests going at once, but as we've seen, none of these people are properly organized or working together the way they were when the USAID money flowed like wine. now, can this happen once or twice? yes. will it continue to happen in a concerted way? no. these liberal faggots are nowhere near personally motivated enough. they will do a little bit, feel justified in now going home and being safe, and do nothing else. ICE will eventually arrest pablo, paco, and jose regardless, and if they don't, now these people have to live in new places they've never been to, abandon the only jobs they have to send remittances home. this is an effective tactic, and they hate it. that's why the demoralizers go on tv, come into the thread, and try so hard to stop it all.

in reality, all maddow is doing is revealing that she was aware that these protests were internally coordinated for millions and millions of people, a not-so-great look these days when paid protesters are being revealed left and right.
 
just for that page alone we can never have this guy touching levers of power, he is truly egomaniacal because of his insane upbringing, he wants power over you and thinks you are the lowest caste.
Fully onboard with Josh trying to take him down a peg. I think he has a shot if he pushes hard, but he needs the support of everyone to do it.
 
I'm going to sound like a schizo, but I'm starting to think that the behaviour displayed by female leftists is a result of what they're taught about consent - which is basically that nothing is allowed to happen to you unless you want it to happen. Obviously the context in which they're taught this idea is sex: you can do anything you want with a guy (go home with him, get naked, get in bed with him, snuggle, etc etc), but he CAN'T have sex with you unless you give him permission! But they seem to have absorbed this lesson and applied it to every aspect of their lives. The rules are that they can say and do whatever they want, but nobody is allowed to react in a negative way because they don't have consent.
At first I thought this was one of those Deep Truths that nobody is ready for - not even myself. But then I realized that a core tenet of leftism is that a fetus didn't get written consent to be created, so the mother is justified in killing it. Consent explicitly trumps human life to a leftist. Well, female consent anyway. Nobody cares what men want.

They think it's a magic spell that stops anything and justifies everything. Probably because that is in fact how it works 90% of the time in first world countries that have nothing better to do than ensure women never have to feel anything but self-righteous complacency.
 
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