More protein, dairy: Trump admin unveils 5-year update to dietary guidelines - beef gud

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Summary​

Inverted pyramid​

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. joked that the food pyramid is now flipped to emphasize a focus on proteins, dairy, red meats, vegetables and fruits.

Guidelines used for federal programs​

Officials noted that the guidelines aren’t just an encouragement for families, but a framework for what’s permissible in several federal nutrition and assistance programs.

Fight chronic illnesses​

The new guidance focused on reducing the risk of chronic diseases such as obesity and certain heart conditions.

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Trump administration health officials released a new set of dietary guidelines they said would promote healthy eating habits and reduce the need for medications and disease diagnoses. The plan is much more condensed than prior editions, but it pushes the same message for Americans to consume nutrient-rich foods.

“Eat real food,” that’s the directive U.S. Department of Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. issued Wednesday in announcing the new recommendations, often declaring a “war” on saturated fats and added sugars.

“A new framework centers on protein and health fats, vegetables, fruits and whole grains,” Kennedy said.

Kennedy called the new guidelines “the most significant reset of federal nutrition policy in history.” He said that the departments worked with “MAHA Moms” and public health advocates to redevelop guidelines.

The food guidelines would be used to determine what foods the military and children in public schools get and what’s permissible for purchase with benefits, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt said.

USDA and HHS secretaries are required to update dietary guidelines at least once every five years.

Secretaries for the U.S. Departments of Agriculture and Health and Human Services are required to update guidelines at least every five years. They are used to build mandates on what foods are considered sufficient for use in a number of federal nutrition and welfare programs.

Flipping the food pyramid on its head​

Kennedy joked during the briefing that the new recommendations returned the food pyramid to its original orientation, prioritizing protein-rich foods, dairy products, fruit, vegetables and healthy fats.

He criticized former editions of the guidelines for “promoting” processed foods due to the former pyramid placing fats, oils and sweets atop the triangle, but they’re meant to be consumed sparingly. The 2020 release of dietary guidelines didn’t promote such foods, however. Several sections in the document urged people to limit or avoid processed meats and soy products due to higher levels of sodium and saturated fats.

“Replacing processed or high-fat meats (e.g., hot dogs, sausages, bacon) with seafood could help lower intake of saturated fat and sodium, nutrients that are often consumed in excess of recommended limits,” according to the former recommendations.

USDA Secretary Brooke Rollins said during the press conference that people should now eat more protein, dairy, healthy fats, whole grains, fruits and vegetables — whether fresh, frozen, canned or dried.

“These dietary guidelines are foundational to so many USDA programs, and their introductions marks the first step in connecting America’s schools and dinner plates to the best of American agriculture,” Rollins said.

It also contains a promotion for people to drink whole milk versus other versions, but research has shown that the milks range in nutritional value based on a person’s individual health.

George Mason University College of Public Health nutrition professor Sapna Batheja wrote that research on whole milk is mixed, as it contains higher amounts of saturated fat, which can raise low-density lipoprotein cholesterol. This has been labeled as a risk factor for heart disease.

“For most adults, low-fat or fat-free dairy is recommended to limit unhealthy saturated fat while still getting essential nutrients,” Batheja wrote. “For children under two, whole milk is generally recommended for brain development, unless otherwise directed by a health care provider. For those who are lactose intolerant, lactose-free milk or plant milks fortified with vitamins and nutrients (like soy milk) are good alternatives.”

Guidelines sought to fight rising cases of chronic illnesses​

The updated guidelines were issued, officials said, in an effort to combat the rising numbers of people diagnosed with chronic illnesses. Centers for Medicaid and Medicare Administrator Dr. Mehmet Oz said the driver behind the change was lessening chronic illnesses in the country.

“The best way to reduce drug spend in America is to not need the drugs in the first place,” Oz said.

He sought the plan to reduce people’s necessity for weight-loss drugs and those for autoimmune problems.

It’s a push that past secretaries and administrators appear to be on the same page about, according to older editions of the dietary guidelines. A number of health organizations like Johns Hopkins Medicine, University of California Los Angeles Health and Harvard University Medical School urge people with a chronic disease to consume foods that reduce inflammation and increase intake of fruits and vegetables.


Foods that cause inflammation are red meat, processed meats, deep-fried foods, foods high in added sugars, baked goods made with white flour and others.

“It can seem challenging at first to eat for lower inflammation with so many inflammatory foods commercially available, but over time, small changes can turn into lasting habits,” according to Johns Hopkins Medicine. “While no one food reduces inflammation, building a healthy, holistic dietary pattern can help lower your risk of inflammatory disease and transform your health.”

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That's from when milk was primarily from breastfeeding, so the insult ties to being an infant or toddler.
yup. it's always tied into the loss of the enzymes that allow you to break down dairy proteins effectively. it's got nothing to do with being white really. it's mostly about if you keep drinking milk heavily, you retain the enzyme. cultures that continue to drink milk, such as the britoids, do retain the enzyme for longer but sometimes you just lose it regardless. it's only really meant to be something humans drink early in life, but it's also creamy and delicious. i'm in favor of human modification so we can drink milk longer. i also treasure my milk-drinking enzymes.

does this mean we'll be getting josh's favorite cheeses? probably not because no one wants them, but here's hoping!
 
It’s one of my random enthusiasms that I find some reason to lecture about regularly, but the old pioneer practice in the South, maybe elsewhere but I say South because that’s what I know about, was silvioculture. You’d let the pigs forage for nuts and stuff in the forest. Wouldn’t even really take care of them. In Wintertime you’d round them up and feed corn and shelter them from cold.
well thats something they took with them from europe. they make pretty freakish woodlands, the grimm fairy tales come from a region with super freakish hute wäldern.
centuries of pigs foraging lead to trees that look like humans or dwarfs in the right light.
 
yup. it's always tied into the loss of the enzymes that allow you to break down dairy proteins effectively. it's got nothing to do with being white really. it's mostly about if you keep drinking milk heavily, you retain the enzyme. cultures that continue to drink milk, such as the britoids, do retain the enzyme for longer but sometimes you just lose it regardless. it's only really meant to be something humans drink early in life, but it's also creamy and delicious. i'm in favor of human modification so we can drink milk longer. i also treasure my milk-drinking enzymes.

does this mean we'll be getting josh's favorite cheeses? probably not because no one wants them, but here's hoping!
There are also farms and cows that do not carry the A1 enzyme. They have to be bred without it. You can buy the milk that's easier to digest at target and walmart. I thought it was silly until it literally made milk drinking for me 10000% better. I am not lactose intolerant, just milk does me in. But not A2 milk.
 
Blackpilled did a special on the American Chestnut Tree. He talked specifically about how 1800s up to 1920s Americans in Appalachia would do exactly that. Pigs were delicious then.

Tl;dw: globalism destroyed the great redwood of appalachia

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Can't beat the price of pork. $2.xx/lb is so cheap. If I could just get the wife to put down the seafood.
Imported diseases and invasives species, but yes, you could say that globalism irreparable damaged American forests.
Chestnuts roasting on a open fire? No one does that anymore. Why? Globohomo.
 
well thats something they took with them from europe. they make pretty freakish woodlands, the grimm fairy tales come from a region with super freakish hute wäldern.
centuries of pigs foraging lead to trees that look like humans or dwarfs in the right light.
I figured the Germans would have something similar. It seems like the meat culture is geographically deterministic. Forest = Pork vs Open = Cattle. If hilly and open then goat/sheep/mutton.
 
Guidelines were definitely not made clear. Not to doxx myself, but the Food Pyramid was taught to kids in the U.S. as "you need 6-12 servings of carbs such as breads!" Now here we are 30 years later and people pretend not to know why obesity rates are through the roof.
Agree! Publishers of the pyramid did a very poor job of understanding how things get reduced down in translation/ communication .

A funny thing is that even back in the day, even before the food pyramid was broadly promoted in the US, diets such as Atkins (big in the 80s, though he came out with it in the 60s and yes he had a lot of heart issues and blocked arteries, which tbh fueled the anti-meat / fat belief) were heavier on protein (and significant calorie restriction) and geared toward reducing carbs. I mean, we may not understand everything, but we been knew that eating disproportionate carbs was not the way to achieve or sustain a healthy weight.

Lol, I just went to my recipe box and found a piece of paper from some time in the late 80s with a week's worth of meals for an Atkins-adjacent diet.

Breakfast: 1/2 grapefruit, 1 slice protein bread, tea/water

Lunch (examples): assorted cold cuts (no processed meats), sliced tomatoes, tea/ water OR tuna with lemon/ vinegar), grapefruit/ melon/ seasonal fruit OR two eggs, cottage cheese, tomatoes, 1 slice protein bread, tea/ water

Dinner: fish, salad, 1 slice protein bread, grapefruit, tea/ water OR broiled lean hamburger, tomatoes or lettuce or celery or cukes, tea/ water OR roast or broiled or barbecued chicken (no skin), string beans, tea/water OR broiled steak, salad of lettuce, cukes, celery, tomatoes. tea/water.

No, I do not know why I have kept this piece of paper since 1987, and yes, that's a fairly rigorous diet that is missing a lot of opportunities for higher nutrition choices (it was the 80s). But my point is that even 35+ years ago, we really knew that right-sizing / management required lean foods.


yup. it's always tied into the loss of the enzymes that allow you to break down dairy proteins effectively. it's got nothing to do with being white really. it's mostly about if you keep drinking milk heavily, you retain the enzyme. cultures that continue to drink milk, such as the britoids, do retain the enzyme for longer but sometimes you just lose it regardless. it's only really meant to be something humans drink early in life, but it's also creamy and delicious. i'm in favor of human modification so we can drink milk longer. i also treasure my milk-drinking enzymes.

does this mean we'll be getting josh's favorite cheeses? probably not because no one wants them, but here's hoping!
Milk is good for all ages! (::genetically blessed:: 💅 :biggrin:)
 
I figured the Germans would have something similar. It seems like the meat culture is geographically deterministic. Forest = Pork vs Open = Cattle. If hilly and open then goat/sheep/mutton.
Acorns and hickories nuts make excellent pork. The Germans somehow managed forests with boars, native species. Here is the US, we dont manage forests and hogs together. Since we dont, native forests are suffering species loss, particularly with white oaks. Because white oak acorns are the best for fatting pigs and wildlife in general. Less acorns, less white oaks in the forests.
 
Pig meat, which you hardly see people eat anymore besides as bacon and sausage, was the cornerstone of life. Cured hams and also barbecuing.
Kielbasa and bratwurst are still a cornerstone of my life. Broiled in the oven or grilled over charcoal, with some sauerkraut and mustard...pierogi or mashed potatoes as a side, some asparagus...
 
Yeah, sure, we've known that forever. But the problem is when you tell Americans "protein and dairy and vegs," they justify an extra Bacon double cheeseburger bc we are weak and play mind games with ourselves. It's like fatties loading up a pile of iceberg with blue cheese dressing, bacon bits and cheese, because "it's a salad."
I'm not convinced that anyone actually fools themselves in that way. I'd say that people who eat horribly on a regular basis know exactly what they're doing. Maybe, they convince themselves that it's better to have a few vegetables than none at all while eating those type of salads like you mentioned, but I can't believe that they're able to brainwash themselves into thinking that they are actually eating a very light, responsible meal and all that constant weight gain must be genetics or "water weight".

Idk, I guess some of those fatsos that have threads on this site do probably say those type of things, but they have to know that they're lying to themselves .
 
yup. it's always tied into the loss of the enzymes that allow you to break down dairy proteins effectively. it's got nothing to do with being white really. it's mostly about if you keep drinking milk heavily, you retain the enzyme. cultures that continue to drink milk, such as the britoids, do retain the enzyme for longer but sometimes you just lose it regardless. it's only really meant to be something humans drink early in life, but it's also creamy and delicious. i'm in favor of human modification so we can drink milk longer. i also treasure my milk-drinking enzymes.

does this mean we'll be getting josh's favorite cheeses? probably not because no one wants them, but here's hoping!
Some of the problems with that are regulatory in nature. The USDA is really fucky with almost anything involving milk. If RFK can that loosened a bit a lot of US cheese needs can do a lot more and Euro stuff could get distribution.
 
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