🌟 Internet Famous Karl Kasarda / InRangeTV / 2gACM / Karl-InRangeTV - satanist cuckold guntuber with cringe haircut and a Kubelwagen hates yt

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SinistralRifleman said:
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No I understand to a degree where your thoughts on the 2A4ALL spring from and it's not something I entirely disagree with either, but you seem entirely delusional or just refuse to see the reality of the issue. Like missing the forest for the trees. If you/Karl really and truly wanted to protect the second amendment rights of everyone you chose an entirely boneheaded way to do it. If you're focusing on protecting the rights of the minorities and marginalized why would you let it be some bread and circus show that is hostile and volatile to anyone looking at it from the outside? You didn't respond to my point about how annoying and feral Karl made the 2A4ALL movement and I can only assume that it was one of the things that made you split, which I don't actually begrudge you for but I don't get why the wired article appears to have been the last straw. This was building for years you should've jumped way earlier or never inserted yourself to begin with.

If you just want to organize matches for anyone and everyone that would be fine, but clearly Karl wanted something different. I don't know what he told you and if I give you the benefit of the doubt then you got duped by a guy who seems to give no fucks about anyone. And I'll remind you again about Ian who's only sin was that he chafed a bit at Karl's increasing volatility and the insane movement he fostered.

I'll admit to you now I don't really give a fuck about what Trump says and does about the second amendment cause he'll disappoint me eventually I'm sure, but plenty of people in both alt-right (I legit don't think you understand the political makeup of firearm owners in the US but I digress) circles and outside of them had a problem with what him and Pam Bondi were cooking up with that. Whether they give a fuck about trannies owning guns or not didn't really matter because they either had a problem with that or they were against what Trump was proposing because it would open the door to even greater abuse of red flag laws. Whatever Karl gained from Trump making an ass of himself was quickly lost because Karl by all accounts (even yours if we read between the lines) is a very petty, vindictive, and childlike individual who will shoot himself in the foot if it means getting a perceived 'win' over the 'nazis'.

And I'm sorry but I'm beyond considering you good faith because I was here for your first visits to this thread and I haven't been impressed with your return or what you did in the interim. If Full Spectrum made some claims about your rifle (which I think is stupid btw, that's my review) and that the design was stolen then idk, but I'm more willing to believe him than you at this point. The bulk of the reason I brought up Full Spectrum is because both you and Karl made complete asses of yourselves in regard to him.

The most good faith take I can possibly have on you is that you're not malicious but you are a retard who gets tricked easily and that you have a very mercenary-like attitude when it comes to ethics and morals as others in the thread have accused you of. This thread, including me, were very willing to give you a fair shake when you first arrived but you soured plenty of us on you and the entire movement within a few responses. If you want to protect the second amendment rights of everyone then fine, but pick someone better to tie yourself to for the love of god.
 
People with high-minded ideals should learn more fieldcraft and self-reliance and less shooting guns even if that shooting is in "brutality matches".

This whole shit show comes down to Karl losing his grasp on reality while surrounded by loons. Guns, video games, faberge egg collecting, it doesn't matter what the subject or hobby is, if the guy in charge lets in crazy people then the whole thing ends in disaster.

@SinistralRifleman stop thinking about the Bill of Rights and look around bro. It's great to have ideals that doesn't mean you need to break bread with retards.
 
2A4ALL is the same as "All lives matter"

What is said and what is implied are 2 different things.

What is said is totally reasonable and agreeable. What is meant is toxic. Thats why people are giving you a hard time.
 
I can agree with Russell somewhat on the basic premise of 2A4ALL, but where it fails has been pointed out in the previous comments pretty well.

If 2A4ALL was just a catchphrase to campaigning against Red Flag laws or getting felons their 2A rights back, we really wouldn't have this discussion. Or if it was just a nice name for monthly shooting competitions with emphasis on getting new gun owners interested in that without ultra sweaty mandatory fun, that would work as well.

But the big issue Russell failed to see years ago, thankfully saw now with the Wired article and how Karl agreed with the messaging, 2A4ALL became instead of any of the above, it became this purity test administrated by Karl on the people around him. You have to be with him and if you disagree, then you aren't truly for 2A. And at that point where your value as a human being is started to be judged, that is where Karl loses me hard. The moment you start practically ordering me around, that's where I draw the line. It's the same thing with all the other performative things "that you just have to do to support the cause!" which actively pushes me and quite many other people away.

And with Karl when it went into the territory of starting to dictate what people can be around him it just goes way beyond sane mind.

Laminated Flooring Panel said:
There was a recent interview with Valtteri Lindholm, the founder and owner of Varusteleka. He talked about how not all cooperation have gone as planned and mentioned Karl by his name. Apparently Karl had gone full schizo and started to demand people he viewed having far-right links to be not allowed to events where he is so in the end Varusteleka had just told him that maybe it would be better if you just don't come here.

Makes me think it was Varusteleka that in the end booted him off, or at at least made the decision which Karl sounds like made it an easy one.
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I will quote myself again just so that you will see this. When Valtteri says that Karl has gone full schizo, how the hell didn't you see it? How we Finns can see it, but not you? That is where I am unable to fully comprehend what was going on in your head in sticking with Karl and accepting his purity tests until the Wired article broke the camel's back. Is Varusteleka some sort of a Brutality Morality Compass that can sniff out Karl's bullshit and actually say no to him that is unavailable to you?
 
Blasterisk said:
As the OP, I want to say thank you for returning, although I can't imagine what you can get out of it.

I can't say 2A4ALL as it is presented appeals to me in the least (I believe it is exceedingly naïve), but it is better to have all sides heard fairly.
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I don’t want my own positions being misconstrued. I think I’ve fully explained my values and what I believe. If people want to think I’m a naive LOLbert that’s fine.

I don’t think I have much else to add to this conversation at this point.
 
SinistralRifleman said:
I don’t want my own positions being misconstrued. I think I’ve fully explained my values and what I believe. If people want to think I’m a naive LOLbert that’s fine.
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Naive in only that you unwittingly(unintentionally?) handed the keys to 2A4ALL to Karl and it was very much assumed that he came up with it the way he was talking.
I don't think you've got any ill intent but you got fucked over and I hope you recover from that.
 
SinistralRifleman said:
We shall see what happens in the market place.
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You did the meme!
SinistralRifleman said:
I am against all forms of authoritarianism. Left and right.
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What your lolbert sentimentalism fails to grasp, and what Karl's marxoid orbiters DO grasp, is that there is only authoritarianism....consolidation of force and will to power. That is how anything gets accomplished. The rule of law is pure fantasy. You cannot outlaw force with a piece of paper.

You WILL be ruled by authoritarians. When those authoritarians are of your people and prioritize your people's interests, you have a good time. When they prioritize the interests of foreigners or hostile occupiers, you have a bad time. Every civilization on earth has functioned this way since before recorded history.
 
When you make common cause with people who's standpoint is "we will kill you if you stop us from castrating children", you're making a choice.

All the "muh free market", "muh invisible hand" in the world does nothing to detract from the fact you allied yourself with violent, mentally ill, communist perverts who would be more than happy to throw you in a camp for being a white, straight (?) capitalist.

It's not a mere difference of opinion, it's not something you can compromise on, you sat down for tea with the tiger and are now shocked to find he isn't right interested in cucumber sandwiches and earl grey.
 
Geoff Capes Vapes Apes said:
When you make common cause with people who's standpoint is "we will kill you if you stop us from castrating children", you're making a choice.

All the "muh free market", "muh invisible hand" in the world does nothing to detract from the fact you allied yourself with violent, mentally ill, communist perverts who would be more than happy to throw you in a camp for being a white, straight (?) capitalist.

It's not a mere difference of opinion, it's not something you can compromise on, you sat down for tea with the tiger and are now shocked to find he isn't right interested in cucumber sandwiches and earl grey.
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I generally disagree with the old adage that "capitalists will gladly sell you the rope you will use to hang them" but Russel is precisely the kind of person that adage exists in reference to.
 
Sleazy Car Salesman said:
I generally disagree with the old adage that "capitalists will gladly sell you the rope you will use to hang them" but Russel is precisely the kind of person that adage exists in reference to.
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Does anyone here honestly think that trannies and commies will be unable to arm themselves if KE Arms or SOLGW refuses to sell them guns?
 
SinistralRifleman said:
If 2A4ALL is getting twisted into something else beyond basic American civics and constitutional rights, that’s outside of what I believe and my message.
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This "well shucks; 2AFORALL morphed into something else and bastardized by a Wired article" schtick is dumb...

The people who were the primary driving force behind this phrase have had violent leftist rhetoric for almost a decade at this point. You'd have to be completely blind to not see what you were getting into.

You completely disappear from here and now all of a sudden you are back on KF? What changed? It's ok to be in a space that mocks trannies now?
 
HelpingNoone said:
You'd have to be completely blind to not see what you were getting into.
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He's autistic so I give him a tentative benefit of the doubt, not to mention he cut ties when he was implicated more directly.
HelpingNoone said:
You completely disappear from here and now all of a sudden you are back on KF? What changed? It's ok to be in a space that mocks trannies now?
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Karl's been deleting/delisting videos and removing talk about him on the InRangeTV reddit, how much worse can it get if Karl's going to shit-talk him like he did Brownells, Ian and Varusteleka? At least he got along with us the last time he was around.
 
HelpingNoone said:
You completely disappear from here and now all of a sudden you are back on KF? What changed? It's ok to be in a space that mocks trannies now?
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Sounds like he's going to just disappear again because of the pushback.

"I'm open to dialogue but also you're wrong and I'm not going to even address your points, there's nothing left to say!"
 
WhoBusTank69 said:
I wouldn't say "easier" since that shit's expensive but marketing to them specifically is the focus.
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Yeah I probably should have said “more available” I guess. Because every other post on leftist gun subReddits is something along the lines of “I want to get into guns because the evil fascist are coming to kill my trans 7 year old but I don’t want to give money to fascist gun companies.” And inevitably, someone recommends KE/Russell to the OP. Again should that be illegal? No. But I just don’t see the point of being helpful or welcoming to lunatics like that.
 
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