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Should be a wild four years.

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Also an idle thought after seeing a gorgeous hilltop youth blonde posting videos of herself and friends climbing the fence into Gaza to "reclaim our land" then talking about being imprisoned by the IDF. What right wing youth movement actually does anything? All the right wing radicals I see in the US go to the gym or post on X constantly. Maybe once in a while they help out with disaster relief. Meanwhile hilltop youth are building illegal outposts in the West bank that don't have running water or electricity to tend their illegal farmland and 2049 post from a warzone.


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Why don't right wing youth movements in the US have the same ethos? There's a ton of right wing disaffected youth out there who are fanatics about their ideologies but they aren't building whites only farms and such. The only such attempt seems to be a guy who is more interested in publicity and fundraising than anything concrete. The answer of "muh government" doesn't hold up either as the government is actively pursuing these activists based off international pressure.
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The American right is about individualism, capitalism, and religious freedom. Forming a tribalist commune without religious freedom is quite literally the opposite of that. So you're asking why someone doesn't do the exact opposite of their value system. You should be asking yourself why you think values which are traditionally far left in America should be considered right wing when what you're asking for is precisely the opposite of how right wing is defined here.

Again, the two wings system is this

Left is for communism, this means they are tribalistic, commune organizers who want to stifle your religious freedoms in pursuit of a unified identity. If you want people in America to be tribalistic commune organizers who want to stifle the religious freedoms of others in pursuit of a unified identity you go with these guys.

Right is for capitalism, this means we are individualistic, capital focused warriors who will fight for your freedoms so long as you don't push against ours in pursuit of our own personal goals. If you're for that, you'd never ask these questions.

So, are you a far lefty who is mildly edgy, aka a groyper. Or are you actually a red blooded, gun toting, rugged bearded individual, flannel shirt wearing, tree chopping, wood working, beer drinking conservative? Because you're sounding like a leftie to me. And that explains your problem. You conflate left wing values with right wing ones and asking why people like me don't do what you want me to. Why would I? My life is fine. You're having problems sure. But have you considered starting your own business? Have you tried arming yourself for self-defense? If you have then why are you worried? If your product is good people will fund you. And thanks to Trump you can't be debanked anymore. What is your issue that you need to group up to fix? When you walk outside does the sky become crimson with pools of blood flowing up and a demonic entity scratching the walls? Or is it snow, yard and road like the rest of us right now?

I think your issue is you think any of this effects you. Which is the real issue. All these big companies hiring these third worlders are going out of business after screwing over Americans, instead of asking why mcrotten won't hire you why not cook some food and sell it to people in a nearby market? That's what I do. Rather than having a job I made my own. Granted I've got farmland right by me, I can go buy meat and eggs direct from the source. But there's no way you're completely unable to find a way to sell things. Once you learn how small businesses work and what a job is, you realize the source of your problems is you're relying on other people for everything. Instead of relying on others for a job, rely on yourself to make and market a product.

Every conservative worthy of speaking to will tell you exactly what I said. So if you haven't heard these words before you might be surrounded by lefties. Which explains why you have such left wing opinons on what the right is.
 
If you join ICE, you do so knowing that if Juan Cartelero or Mohammed Mohammed or Lilith Speedrunner murders your family, there will be no recourse other than strongly worded tweets
 
Delany's Donkey said:
does anyone have an actual source or video of trump saying this shit?
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there's no way he's actually telling people struggling to buy groceries much less a house that they don't actually want lower prices right? that would be political suicide.
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He's objectively right. Anyone calling for deflation doesn't know how the economy works.
 
Catch The Rainbow said:
building whites only farms and such.
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Yeah, i fuckign wonder why that is.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/n...te-christian-nationalists-moving-to-tennessee

andrew has been smeared and shit on for two years over this.


https://missouriindependent.com/2025/07/31/whites-only-missouri-lawmakers/

it's a mystery why there aren't more of these.

https://www.intermountainhistories.org/items/show/622

I wonder why more whites aren't leaping at the chance to get smeared and have targets placed on their backs, it's a fuckign mystery, moishe, you dishonest cunt.
 
The one constant in life you can count on is that where ever you have Jew you have anti-semitism.

From the walls of ancients Babylon where Cyrus gave them the boot, too the middle ages of Europe where they were burned at the stake for bring the plague, to the holocaust of the 1940's.

It doesn't matter the era in time, the country, the culture or the even type of government if you got Jews in your civilization you've also got anti-semitism.

Now why is that I wonder? Is it just that normal humans have a based, built in anti-Semitic bias? Or could it be that Jews do something to cause hatred against them to build up the longer they are around?

Nah, it can't be. Jews are blameless, it must be the former and we will all just have to work that much harder to combat anti-semitism where ever and when ever it crops up.

Do better goys!
 
Dorothy said:
If that's the case then women shouldn't vote until they're 25.
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There are people who clutch pearls over a twenty six year old man meeting a twenty four year old woman and then dating, simply because the latter wasn't exactly twenty five when it all started.

Unless a twenty four year old is mentally fourteen years back, it sounds like projection by fat Karen's with bad hair (I had a neighbor that unironically followed this line of reasoning).
 
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Monopolywheel said:
Deflation is not good for a (((lender))) based economy
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FTFY
Here's a fun fact you can just fuck over banks. Oops, I got 12k in credit card debt buying gold and silver, oh no now I have people calling every other week. Oops I changed my phone number. At around the 2 year mark they'll accept a scraping of dick cheese as payment.

Source: I've worked collections and also done this exact thing. Total (((lender))) death would be a gigantic boon for the collective soul of the people.
 
FieldPiece said:
FTFY
Here's a fun fact you can just fuck over banks. Oops, I got 12k in credit card debt buying gold and silver, oh no now I have people calling every other week. Oops I changed my phone number. At around the 2 year mark they'll accept a scraping of dick cheese as payment.

Source: I've worked collections and also done this exact thing. Total (((lender))) death would be a gigantic boon for the collective soul of the people.
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I've also watched Fight Club
 
What's annoying about Trump shit-talking is that I will be expected to answer for him by people I know, and no, I don't actually care to fray friendships because the guy who made a bunch of movies they adore was a shithead on Twitter.
 
LopsidedLegend said:
Forming a tribalist commune without religious freedom is quite literally the opposite of that.
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You're defining the right wing as one specific thing and saying anything that falls outside that specific thing is not right wing, it's no true scotsmaning the right.

LopsidedLegend said:
So, are you a far lefty who is mildly edgy, aka a groyper
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I am the opposite of a groyper lmao

LopsidedLegend said:
Right is for capitalism, this means we are individualistic, capital focused warriors who will fight for your freedoms so long as you don't push against ours in pursuit of our own personal goals. If you're for that, you'd never ask these questions.
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No man is an island and all that, even the most right wing homesteader needs to go into town sometimes

LopsidedLegend said:
I think your issue is you think any of this effects you. Which is the real issue. All these big companies hiring these third worlders are going out of business after screwing over Americans, instead of asking why mcrotten won't hire you why not cook some food and sell it to people in a nearby market? That's what I do. Rather than having a job I made my own. Granted I've got farmland right by me, I can go buy meat and eggs direct from the source. But there's no way you're completely unable to find a way to sell things. Once you learn how small businesses work and what a job is, you realize the source of your problems is you're relying on other people for everything. Instead of relying on others for a job, rely on yourself to make and market a product.
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How do you read my post about how young right wingers are forming self supporting farming outposts and somehow think that I'm against farming?

Sammich said:
Yeah, i fuckign wonder why that is.

https://www.newschannel5.com/news/n...te-christian-nationalists-moving-to-tennessee

andrew has been smeared and shit on for two years over this.


https://missouriindependent.com/2025/07/31/whites-only-missouri-lawmakers/

it's a mystery why there aren't more of these.

https://www.intermountainhistories.org/items/show/622

I wonder why more whites aren't leaping at the chance to get smeared and have targets placed on their backs, it's a fuckign mystery, moishe, you dishonest cunt.
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Again, if you bothered reading instead of ragesperging you would see that I directly addressed that here.

The only such attempt seems to be a guy who is more interested in publicity and fundraising than anything concrete
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lets look at your first link:


The group I was talking about moves into a small town and publicly declares that they want to take over the town:

In a video posted online by one of the developers, Isker talked about the ability of those people to get their way in a small community.

"You could exercise far, far more political power – even with a few hundred or a few thousand people – than you can on your own, widely dispersed across the entire country,” the right-wing Minnesota pastor said.
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They pretend to be the local Republican party:

One of their podcast buddies also set up an account on X, formerly Twitter, that claimed to represent the views of the local Republican Party.

Jackson County Republican Party chair Beau Smith was surprised when NewsChannel 5 Investigates first told him about the X account.

"It said it was the official account of the Jackson County GOP."

"But it was not," said Smith, who immediately insisted that the podcaster remove the claim that the account was endorsed by the local party.

We also showed him where Engel had tweeted that "the best way forward" for Christian nationalists "is to take over local level outlets of the Republican Party."

"So that's not going to happen especially now due to your reporting,” Smith said. “We're thankful for that, and knowing these people are in our community is a big deal."
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They also made their views widely known to the locals:

Over and over, the townspeople made clear that, if the Christian nationalists think Gainesboro and Jackson County is a place where people all think like them, they don't know Jackson County.

"These people's views do not represent our community,” said lifelong resident Nan Coons. "And if they think they are going to come in here and take over and force their views on everybody else, they are going to have a fight on their hands."
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They then tried to spread to other states but their reputation preceded them:


The idea of a segregated community coming to southwest Missouri was greeted with scorn by both Democratic and Republican legislative leaders from the area.

“Racism in any form is evil and reprehensible,” said House Majority Leader Alex Riley, a Springfield Republican. “Groups engaging in racist conduct are not welcome in Springfield.”

State Rep. Betsy Fogle, a Springfield Democrat, said history has been “very clear on what happens when you stay silent as groups discriminate based on race and discriminate based on whether or not someone is of the Jewish faith. I cannot believe that in 2025 we are retreading this ground.”

In an emailed statement, a spokesperson for Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey said racial discrimination “has no place in Missouri.”

“Attorney General Bailey is committed to protecting the constitutional rights of all citizens,” the statement said. “The landmark Supreme Court case Shelley v. Kraemer, which originated in St. Louis, made clear that government cannot enforce racially discriminatory housing practices, and Missouri will not tolerate efforts to revive them.”

The Springfield City Council and City Manager David Cameron issued a joint statement this week declaring that “there is no place in Springfield, or anywhere, for such a divisive and discriminatory vision.”

“While it is improbable that such a project could legally or practically occur within city limits, silence is not an option,” the statement said. “As a regional leader, we will not stand idly by in the face of attempts to revive outdated, harmful ideologies.”
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Your last example suffers from the same issue where they openly preached their views and tried to take over the local area:


Butler’s compound included an adjoined print shop for publishing books, fliers, posters, and pamphlets filled with racist propaganda and antisemitic caricatures. The group led parades that gathered large crowds of youths in downtown Coeur d’Alene alongside annual summits at the compound. In the mid-1990s, the Aryan Nations began running its own website, one of the first dedicated sites for recruiting white supremacists. The religious tenor of Butler’s compound was a major draw for many who saw him as a prophetic individual, and he claimed a religious freedom right to spread his message of hate. From this headquarters, Butler preached white supremacy and exclusion to his followers, making the area synonymous with white supremacy.

However, many residents of Coeur d’Alene felt distressed at Butler’s growing presence. In 1981, Butler’s followers and rivals engaged in violent conflict, and someone defaced a local Jewish restaurant with antisemitic grafitti. This brought the compound and the town to the attention of the Kootenai County Task Force on Human Relations. The brainchild of local activists Tony Stewart, Norman Gissel, and Marshall Mend, the task force rallied locals to advocate against hate by using community outreach programs to speak against white supremacy and by intervening in disputes involving Butler and his supporters.
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It's very funny that you seethe at me calling me dishonest when I use the example of a bunch of people buying land and quietly farming then immediately being dishonest yourself by lying about the circumstances in which these communities were formed and existed in. If they had moved in quietly and farmed without trying to take over the local government, they would have been fine.

I understand your victim complex and rage is a big issue for you but try actually reading what I wrote and not immediately reaching for the weakest of strawmen.
 
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