Celebrities (and "celebrities") who trooned out their children - A transgender kid is the new Birkin bag

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Here's a question I often ask, and I wonder if people agree with me on this: Is overmothering (when the mother is constantly involved in a child's life) making kids become gay or trans? I believe it is.

Cynthia Nixon son and Megan Fox's kids became trans and I think it's clear that their overmothering did this. Shocked Elizabeth Hurley's kid hasn't transitioned, because she, too, is overmothering him.

Though not trans, another one I want to mention is Mia Farrow's son, Ronan, who has pretty much spent virtually his entire life being raised by Mia. He came out as gay not too long after #MeToo went viral.
 
vnisanian2001 said:
Here's a question I often ask, and I wonder if people agree with me on this: Is overmothering (when the mother is constantly involved in a child's life) making kids become gay or trans? I believe it is.

Cynthia Nixon son and Megan Fox's kids became trans and I think it's clear that their overmothering did this. Shocked Elizabeth Hurley's kid hasn't transitioned, because she, too, is overmothering him.

Though not trans, another one I want to mention is Mia Farrow's son, Ronan, who has pretty much spent virtually his entire life being raised by Mia. He came out as gay not too long after #MeToo went viral.
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There are some people who believe overbearing mothers (especially paired with enabling fathers if not outright no father in the picture) does have this issue. I was first introduced to the idea by the Disaffected podcast. I do not know how true it is but he is himself a gay man and says that it was his experience a lot of them do have mothers that tend to fit this stereotype (I don't know about trans specifically, no one talks about it in those terms), which is why he believes it to have some truth. Or perhaps it's something to do with dysfunctional families growing up generally and everything else that comes with that, of which the mother being a cunt is just one symptom of all the chaos that goes with those. To say nothing of Munchhausen by proxy. Or the nature of celebrities being fucked up attention whores and what that would mean for their kids and how the industry treats children, even if those children are only in those circles due to their parents and aren't "working" themselves.

The old school of mothering boys was that the older they got the more hands off you got with them, as they were supposed to start following their father around more and learning from him. People seem to do the opposite these days. Everything else aside it isn't really good for any child to be smothered by their mothers and these moms a lot of the time tend to see their children as narcissistic extensions of themselves so there's lots of issues with enmeshment.

Some people take a very predetermined sense of view (you end up being what you're innately always meant to be). However, I do think there is a lot of truth to many people being so deeply effected by chaotic upbringings and abuse that it changes what they otherwise would've been. The development of children is very fragile, they are not in fact all that resilient. I imagine kids from "celebrity" households have all kinds of problems from their parents, being in the public eye, etc.
 
vnisanian2001 said:
Here's a question I often ask, and I wonder if people agree with me on this: Is overmothering (when the mother is constantly involved in a child's life) making kids become gay or trans? I believe it is.
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Reminds me of the following meme.

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batteredpancakes said:
Note that Cindy was 46 when she had the twins (IVF) and the donor father (an ex of hers) is probably even older.
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46 and IVF, no real chance of more kids coming and both children are girls. Could be that mommy really wanted a boy and a girl, rather than autism. I don't put anything beyond these celeb parents who believe they are entitled to everything.
 
batteredpancakes said:
Kai was completely normal looking before being transitioned. Here he is only months before his parents transitioned him:
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Puberty blockers fucked him up badly. There's only 6-7 years between the two pics. 10 years old and 16 years old.
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Puberty blockers do not alter or stop the genes for height, and MTFs still stand a foot taller than women. The only thing puberty blockers do is make them lanky and weird like Dividers.
 
Chandelier said:
Puberty blockers do not alter or stop the genes for height, and MTFs still stand a foot taller than women. The only thing puberty blockers do is make them lanky and weird like Dividers.
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I don't know if this applies to males, but they would (possibly still do) prescribe puberty blockers to some girls in order to give them a couple more inches of height before their growth plates seal up. Also, Kai's only 16 so that wouldn't really play a role here.
 
Chandelier said:
Puberty blockers do not alter or stop the genes for height
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worse it makes people even taller than their genes allow. It causes the long bones to continue growing as estrogen is responsible for the growth plates maturing in both males and females.
We can see this easily in Klinefelter's syndrome; which causes a lower production of hormones.
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Surfin Terf said:
I don't know if this applies to males, but they would (possibly still do) prescribe puberty blockers to some girls in order to give them a couple more inches of height before their growth plates seal up. Also, Kai's only 16 so that wouldn't really play a role here.
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You can thank the illustrious Dr. Emma Hilton, Biological Warmachine, for posting this paper. It samples a Dutch population, the tallest people on Earth, and shows that even with PBs, MTFs still grow taller than their female peers. PBS do affect bone growth and maturation, which is something advocates insist does not happen. In any case, Kai there does not look his age. He looks almost 40. It really should be studied how these 'life saving drugs' age their users rapidly.
 
batteredpancakes said:
This behemoth was also puberty blocked. His doctors also tried using other drugs to stunt his growth if I remember correctly.
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I seem to remember that NikkiTutorials also claimed to have had SRS as a minor. Which, going by his own math/claimed age, would’ve put him getting the chop in the mid 2000s. That would’ve been highly unusual even for the Dutch at that time.

I remember that when Nikki was popular, I would see his thumbnails and think that he was a drag queen. Was completely unsurprised when he came out as trans after years of insisting that he was a bio woman.

Broadside said:
God laughs at these fuckers I swear.
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Life finds a way!
 
toilet_rainbow said:
I seem to remember that NikkiTutorials also claimed to have had SRS as a minor.
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Did he ever say where he got SRS? It was still legal for a minor to get SRS in Thailand at that time.

In fact, looking at the older dutch protocol guidelines they seem rather strict, i'm pretty sure that has to be the case if he's telling the truth. But queens love exaggerating so who knows...
 
batteredpancakes said:
This behemoth was also puberty blocked. His doctors also tried using other drugs to stunt his growth if I remember correctly.
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I mentioned this before but with Castratos many grew to be tall and gangly while chopping their balls off stopped their voices from cracking which was the intended goal with them it also fucked up their hormone growth. Countries are already starting to ban Pubety Blockers because they're discovering it fucks up bone density you can't play God with children's puberty and think it's going to turn out well.
 
batteredpancakes said:
Did he ever say where he got SRS? It was still legal for a minor to get SRS in Thailand at that time.

In fact, looking at the older dutch protocol guidelines they seem rather strict, i'm pretty sure that has to be the case if he's telling the truth. But queens love exaggerating so who knows...
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Not that I recall. Thailand is/was a very popular holiday destination for Europeans, especially pre-2004 tsunami. That’s a good guess if Nikkie was telling the truth. Many people were skeptical at the time because his timeline was weird.

Looking online, he claimed that he was raised as female from age 6 (year 2000), was on blockers by age 14 “to stop growing” (2008, around the time he started his YouTube), and “finished” his transition at 19 (2013). Which could mean anything (and that I was off about him being a minor vs still under 20). Kinda hush hush, yet simultaneously kinda sus sus. Some of the OG famous trans kids like Jazz Jennings and Kim Petras were being trooned out by that point, but even a 1994 birthdate was on the younger side right when the trans movement started really warming up in the early 2010s.

LaughJoke2.0 said:
I mentioned this before but with Castratos many grew to be tall and gangly while chopping their balls off stopped their voices from cracking which was the intended goal with them it also fucked up their hormone growth. Countries are already starting to ban Pubety Blockers because they're discovering it fucks up bone density you can't play God with children's puberty and think it's going to turn out well.
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Many eunuchs also develop hunchbacks because it turns out having very low T is very bad for male bone development. Seems to happen even with adults that get their balls chopped when it’s been long enough post op.

It’s about time that puberty blockers are actually getting banned in some places. This article in particular opened my eyes about how dangerous that shit is years ago. And those girls were on them for far shorter times than the average “trans kid” before developing crumbling teeth and spines ten years down the road.
 
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toilet_rainbow said:
Looking online, he claimed that he was raised as female from age 6 (year 2000), was on blockers by age 14 “to stop growing” (2008, around the time he started his YouTube), and “finished” his transition at 19 (2013).
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Sounds right. Surgery the second he was legal plus revisions and healing time.
toilet_rainbow said:
This article in particular opened my eyes about how dangerous that shit is years ago.
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I remember that article. There was also a lupron awareness website dating back to the old internet. Lupron was on it's way to being banned before it got politicized. Even for cancer, the most legitimate reason for the drug, it got caught up in lawsuits.

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- I’m in the same exact boat as you and I am so upset that this happened to us and so many other people. If you have any information about a lawsuit please share it with me. They should have to pay for all of our pain and suffering. I am 43 and have the bones of an 80 year old now
- I was given a monthly dose every two weeks for around 4 years. I stopped it in 2011 and then in 2014 I was unable to work any longer due to my health. they found major bone loss on the left side of my skull. Now at 43 yr old, I am completely 100% disabled and suffering daily with health issues. I have osteoporosis, thyroid, skin issues, brain fog, high white blood cell count, cobalamin deficiency, insomnia, scarring alopecia, hypothyroidism, Osteop[enia, calcium oxalate crystals in the urine, maxillary bone loss, arthritis, low bone density, vit D deficiency, chronic facial pain, other microscopic hematuria, microhematuria, prediabetes, tooth lose, s/p TAH-BSO, chronic fatigue…. ext. I have lost everything and my quality of life has gone downhill. please help us this medication is not safe to use and it’s past time to have it removed from the shelves.
- I was given lupron for prostate cancer, after a few days I had very bad fatigue, with in the first year. I had hot and cold sweats, teeth loss, memory loss, suicide thoughts erection dysfunction, even after 5 yrs I still have all the side effects, lungs are so bad I have to use a wheelchair, on oxygen and more.
- Oh my God. Lupron ruined my life. The pain it has caused is horrible… now I facing a 20,000 dental bill which I blame for the use of lupron. Need help.
- Lupron ruined my life I went blind, had a heart attack, anxiety, depression, vitamin D deficiency, broke on with a rash from my head to my feet, mood swings very bad, lost all my teeth and the list goes on every time I look around there’s something else my life is not the same anymore. I hate that I didn’t do my research first, I trusted my doctor who lied to me.
- Due to my prostate cancer, I have had a year of Lupron. 1 shot every 3 months. My strength has diminished. I have trouble walking. My balance is terrible. I used to have great balance and was an expert surfer. I’m 66 going on 100 after taking this poison. I have hair loss, and cannot build muscle mass, no matter how much I exercise. I recommend that nobody ever take this drug. I am currently withdrawing from Lupron, and have been experiencing a rash that’s quite uncomfortable. What’s next? Lupron is a nightmare.
- My daughter was prescribed Lupron for precocious puberty. She got the injection and year or 2 later diagnosed with thyroid cancer.

Kim Petras actually broke his ankle awhile back. I wonder if it was to do with deteriorating bones. Actually it likely was; he barely moves when he dances. In that coconut music video he looks like he's afraid to jump or move around too much.

Now that I mull over it, Nikki seems to be significantly luckier than other transitioners. Has a successful career, good husband and seems happy. I don't think there's another one who's even remotely close.
 
Lupron is horrific. My BFF’s mom took it in the 90’s for endometriosis and it affected her horribly. She’s still alive but has many health problems due to it. She was in her 40’s then, not a child and didn’t take it for a very long time, but it still damaged her. I cannot imagine how awful it is for still developing children!

It’s also one thing to try it as a last resort for adults who are dealing with real, crippling health issues. Giving it to perfectly healthy children for their delusions of “gender” (which are almost all due to social contagion or abuse, it seems), is beyond evil. Especially because they know how bad it is nowadays. I’m not sure what they knew back in the 90’s but this is 30 years later and there’s zero excuse for it now. And the “health care” industry really seems baffled as to why people don’t trust them. Gee, it’s a mystery!
 
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