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And now we got free speech agnostics.

December 10, 2025

Free speech agnostics in Canada​

By Alan Loncar

At first it seems paradoxical to believe indifference leads to intolerance. How can apathy lead to a purposeful spite? It can, if that agnostic coldness is only superficial and instead seeks to oppress. This is what parts of the West exhibit when it comes to free speech. They talk the talk but simply ignore the walk. An example is the recent debate around Canadian hate-speech laws.

The political party Bloc Quebecois recently planned to propose an elimination of the religious exemption to Canada’s hate speech laws. The current law allows for exemptions from criminal charges "if, in good faith, the person expressed or attempted to establish by an argument an opinion on a religious subject or an opinion based on a belief in a religious text." The current exemption may seem like a nice state-issued grace. But what one considers an “opinion” or not is a dangerous slippery slope for criminal wrongdoing, particularly when debating the divine. The proposed change to the law also would define “hatred” as an “emotion that involves detestation or vilification and that is stronger than disdain or dislike.” Do we really trust government to know what is stronger than disdain but just the right amount of vilification? It seems that speech laws are not always the best prosecutorial taste tests.
 
by even more insane furry cannibal bacchanalians.
How dare you insult my favorite CHUD (now former) leader
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Why bother quoting that much when you didn't read it lol
Reconciliation can work the issue is that bad actors don't want to move onto the next step they wanna stay in reconciliation and milk it for sympathy.
You don't get equality by being treated differently
Not sympathy, money. The land claims in BC are all targeting established productive industrial lands, and the tribes have said they don't want to shut anything down or take anyone's property. They want mob-style kickbacks in perpetuity because someone had the gall to develop successful businesses on their* land.

I have yet to see any serious ideas about what this reconciliation (it's the last step, the word means 'reuniting in friendship') will look like. In South Africa, it meant the abolishment of Apartheid and black integration into society. We don't have an apartheid policy towards Natives, if anything we have the opposite. They have the same access to every job and every level of government that we do. How much more 'equal' can you get?
 
Not sympathy, money. The land claims in BC are all targeting established productive industrial lands, and the tribes have said they don't want to shut anything down or take anyone's property. They want mob-style kickbacks in perpetuity because someone had the gall to develop successful businesses on their* land.

I have yet to see any serious ideas about what this reconciliation (it's the last step, the word means 'reuniting in friendship') will look like. In South Africa, it meant the abolishment of Apartheid and black integration into society. We don't have an apartheid policy towards Natives, if anything we have the opposite. They have the same access to every job and every level of government that we do. How much more 'equal' can you get?
The Indian Act system is Apartheid, but it gives the natives rights normal citizens do not have in exchange for robbing them of individual property rights on the reservations.
 
This is why cultural genocide is a more accurate description of what the schools were meant to do, kill the savage inside and make them "civilized"
I don't agree with a lot of the opinions regarding native stuff here in this thread but i do think that bad actors are abusing native history and making it so reconciliation can't actually happen because they keep "discovering" new truths that keep reconciliation out of reach, rinse and repeat.
Truth and reconciliation should not be permanent they should be steps on the path of actual equality
A lot of the natives willingly sent their children to the residential schools because they knew that their children needed to learn English and have access to western medicines that weren't available on reservation. Now that the chiefs see the white liberal's guilt over perceived systemic wrongs they have taken a page out of their namesake's book and have made an entire industry on scamming. That is why if you are a white old stock canadian you should not feel sympathy for them, they want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think its funny
 
A lot of the natives willingly sent their children to the residential schools because they knew that their children needed to learn English and have access to western medicines that weren't available on reservation.
A lot isnt all and its well known that the RCMP kidnapped kids then lied about families willingly giving them up for education. It also doesn't change the fact abuse still happened and the schools weren't just about teaching native kids English and basic schooling but about cultural genocide and removing younger generations away from their heritage and culture.
The residential school system is everything right wingers hate about the government and yet they support it because it didn't happen to white people.
Now that the chiefs see the white liberal's guilt
White guilt isn't a thing, anyone who actually claims to have white guilt are just spineless retards who cant say people in the past did bad things and move on with their lives being better people by not doing what people did in the past.
If you think stuff that happened to natives is bad you don't have to feel guilty about existing as white in modern day, we cant the past but we can improve the future.
That is why if you are a white old stock canadian you should not feel sympathy for them, they want you broke, dead, your kids raped and brainwashed, and they think its funny
Do you think what happened at residential schools was funny because this just sounds like projecting.
 
A lot isnt all and its well known that the RCMP kidnapped kids then lied about families willingly giving them up for education. It also doesn't change the fact abuse still happened and the schools weren't just about teaching native kids English and basic schooling but about cultural genocide and removing younger generations away from their heritage and culture.
The residential school system is everything right wingers hate about the government and yet they support it because it didn't happen to white people.
Abuse probably did happen but not to nearly the degree that the chugs want to claim where in their narratives these places were comically evil kiddie murder factories. They also had full knowledge of cultural genocide due to thousands of years of the various tribes having wars with each other. Of course we are going to bat for our own race, are you retarded?
White guilt isn't a thing,
 
Abuse probably did happen but not to nearly the degree that the chugs want to claim where in their narratives these places were comically evil kiddie murder factories.
You are making it extremely obvious you refuse to do any research into this topic and are letting emotions dictate your opinion
They also had full knowledge of cultural genocide due to thousands of years of the various tribes having wars with each other.
ad hominem
Of course we are going to bat for our own race, are you retarded?
Going to bat for our own race is when you deny history.
White guilt is fully controlled by the white person being told native history and not by anyone else.
You control your thoughts and feelings to information you learn.

In my honest opinion i see a lot of these extreme native advocates as nothing more than a different flavor of tankies who think we could easily rip some of the capitalist piping from the walls and still be fine but instead of capitalism it's self destructive land grabs and not giving a shit about optics in the name of past tragedy.
Land acknowledgement without land being "returned" is more than enough anything else is just greed and is gonna do more harm than good when the other shoe drops.
There are reservations who still dont have clean drinking water and need water air lifted in and yet these native rights advocates focus on getting land back over helping the natives on land they already fucking have.
 
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lot isnt all and its well known that the RCMP kidnapped kids then lied about families willingly giving them up for education. It also doesn't change the fact abuse still happened and the schools weren't just about teaching native kids English and basic schooling but about cultural genocide and removing younger generations away from their heritage and culture.
The residential school system is everything right wingers hate about the government and yet they support it because it didn't happen to white people
Just as many kids were taken from abusive families where drunk parents raped and beat them.
 
You are making it extremely obvious you refuse to do any research into this topic and are letting emotions dictate your opinion
Pot meet kettle
ad hominem
By definition wrong, try again
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White guilt is fully controlled by the white person being told native history and not by anyone else.
You control your thoughts and feelings to information you learn.
Disproven by white humiliation rituals now being part and parcel of the public education system
 
A lot isnt all and its well known that the RCMP kidnapped kids then lied about families willingly giving them up for education. It also doesn't change the fact abuse still happened and the schools weren't just about teaching native kids English and basic schooling but about cultural genocide and removing younger generations away from their heritage and culture.
That is incorrect. You are misrepresenting a broader set of anti-truancy laws that was passed in the 1920s. Before that when kids didn't go to school or in this case ran away, they were powerless to go return them. Which lead to lost kids freezing in the snow. Even then did you think Constable Smith was running around with a sack like the Grinch scooping up kids in the middle of the night? Do you think native parents are so terrible they would throw up their hands and go "whelp, nothing I can do." If you believe that, then you might be legitimately the most racist person in this thread.
The residential school system is everything right wingers hate about the government and yet they support it because it didn't happen to white people.
Everyone who opposed it was called racist, heartless, how could they deprive poor native children getting an education. It was the progressive policy of the day. Questioning Residential schooling was questioning Canada and it's generous spirit. Now, people just want the the truth. Did the schools suck? Yes they were ran by the church on shoestring budgets provided by the federal government. Were they cattle cars in Poland that deposited kids straight to molestation and then an oven? No of course not.
 
That is incorrect. You are misrepresenting a broader set of anti-truancy laws that was passed in the 1920s. Before that when kids didn't go to school or in this case ran away, they were powerless to go return them.
Im more so referring to the sixties scoop not these anti truancy laws but you did educate me on this.
Even then did you think Constable Smith was running around with a sack like the Grinch scooping up kids in the middle of the night? Do you think native parents are so terrible they would throw up their hands and go "whelp, nothing I can do."
No i think that parents who tried to get kids back were either given the runaround or lied to and gaslit until they gave approval under duress.
I think that the government did what governments do and did what they wanted and told people who they knew couldn't do much to kick rocks.
Everyone who opposed it was called racist, heartless, how could they deprive poor native children getting an education. It was the progressive policy of the day. Questioning Residential schooling was questioning Canada and it's generous spirit. Now, people just want the the truth.
Agreed but i meant that as in modern day right wingers defend it not in the past when the school system first started.
If anything knowing that backlash against the system came from the right originally makes the modern right wing takes on RS more depressing.
 
-. "Land acknowledgements,"
Literally nothing wrong with this
The new native centered public school curriculum in BC, NS, etc.
Weird how you gave no source on this so we can see what it means by native centered
Sounds more like the officers want to dodge accountability over humiliation.
Weird how you care about the humiliation from the cops abusing their power instead of the random people they handcuffed at a bank.
 
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