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Archiveception.
The upside is that this website, and threads like these, are monitored by the glowies (because Dear Sneeder once called a nigger a nigger, I dunno), so they've probably seen it by now.
archive.is is being seized by the FBI.
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Tor is going to become the default for stuff as simple as shit posting and archiving news articles because most normal people are scared of Tor and won't use it.
Letting non techie people onto the Internet ruined it. Putting it on simple to use devices with a touch interface and allowing people to walk around everywhere with an Internet connected device in their pocket was a mistake, because no one was paying attention to what we were all doing before that.
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If it's somebody uploading CSAM to get sites shut down, I'm surprised UnrealSkybox hasn't been mentioned yet. When will that disgusting pedophile be arrested?
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If you think this is about child porn, then I have a bridge in baltimore to sell you.
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Good things aren't allowed to happen to us. Only TPTB gets nice things. You should know this by now.
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There's a thunk-provoking interpretation of CSAM laws, and why they differ so drastically from how other media depicting crimes is handled, which posits that it's not about protecting the children.
It's about the adults
When it comes to pictures and video of basically any other crime, you can pretty much do whatever with near-zero liability unless you're somehow personally involved in the perpetration of the crime (or are spreading it for harassment purposes).
So, for instance, dude walks in on his girlfriend getting gangbanged at a party and films it so if anyone asks why he kicked her ass to the curb he has receipts. Maybe it turns out she wasn't a cheatin' lyin' hoe, and if you pay attention you might notice she's wholly insensible. Maybe every guy who participated in the gangbang ends up convicted for rape.
You can be the guy who filmed that video with no liability. You can recieve that video when you ask the guy why he and so&so broke up. You can share it with your online friends.
Unless she's less than 18y old, YOU SICK FUCK.
In that case, just having the video and never showing it to anyone is a significant felony. But showing it to someone is also illegal. And filming it was also illegal.
And if you post it online somewhere, whatever service provider hosts it has not only a legal obligation to promptly remove it as soon as they know (e.g., are informed) it's illegal content, similar to how copyright infringement is handled, they also have some liability if they don't take proactive steps to identify and remove such content.
Over 18, though? Yeah, fuck it, whatever. You can register theneedful.in and profit off hosting all rape porn all the time. Maybe. I'm not your lawyer and this is not legal advice. Consult with a qualified attorney familiar with applicable statutes for the relevant jurisdictions before redeeming your rape porn site, saar.
Anyway.
Suppose you were a clandestine intelligence agency who sex trafficked children in order to compromise and control world leaders for decades. You had pictures and video of international, national, state, and local level executives, legislators, judges, and officers from all around the world. CEOs, presidents, members of parliaments, high court justices, all the way down to small town mayors, council members, and beat cops.
All of them are under your thumb because if they step out of line you can anonymously send the pictures and videos of them to the appropriate authorities (who you also control, btw).
Hell, for the most part you don't even allow someone to rise above local-level politics until AFTER you've got them on video.
You've got a few people so far in your pocket, they volunteered to rape a child on video as a way to move up in the ranks.
But it's rare anybody steps out of line because everyone in power knows it's a big ol' game of mutually assured destruction. And if they do, the local law enforcement is gonna say the committed suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head, twice, while handcuffed.
So, given that'S YOUR system of control, it's very important that ONLY YOU control the compromising material.
Imagine if the komprimat of the guy you've selected to be President is on a laptop that gets stolen. It would screw up your plans if that got spread around! It might burn your asset if it goes public or give other players leverage or, worst of all, might leak and somehow not be a big deal and Your Guy is no longer under your thumb.
You know what would be really useful?
If you had your pet legislators make it superduper doubleplus illegal for anyone to distribute, or even just possess, that komprimat.
So CSAM's special legal status is not about protecting the child victims, its about protecting the adult perpetrators (and the criminal enterprise that controls them).
And the internet is fucking that up.
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This scenario is fucking retarded.
What alternative do you propose? That website operators not be held accountable for hosting the shit?
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The chain of custody around child porn evidence is quite intense. Only the 1st/2nd char defense lawyers are allowed to see it, the main prosecutors, the judge and the jury often contained to very specific evidence rooms where they must all view it together. Most courts do not allow the jury to have the evidence in the deliberation room. Companies that have content moderation teams often have certain people cleared by the DOJ to handle and quarantine material, and they're often few and overworked. Two such people at Microsoft sued the company for PTSD (A) associated with handling such content.
The average jury member is not going to know the board of directors at the big banks. They're not going to know who's VPs over at JP MorganChase or Intel or nVidia or or BlackRock or Proctor and Gamble (*just examples, no idea if any of those people have done anything). The point is, there are likely adults in a lot of these videos. Some might be very well connected adults. They don't get prosecuted because the average person doesn't know who they are and the evidence of the crime itself is like a controlled substance.
It absolutely, 100%, protects the adults who have played the game and are in the racket. Now, is that a good enough argument for people to be allowed to view that evidence? Those kids have had something absolutely fucking terrible happen to them, at an age where they could do nothing about it. Some of them recover and move on, but many don't ever really. My childhood was pretty bland and I never experience anything remotely like that, so I have no idea. But from what very close people have told me who've gone through abuse, it sounds horrible and has forever changed how they feel about themselves, partners and sex.
Child porn possession is a Strict Liability crime. There is no mens rea, your intent doesn't matter. Independent journalists cannot download it, even for investigative purposes, without immediately reporting it and deleting it (and even then they probably still want to retain a lawyer just in case).
Should it not be? .. No. I don't think so. I don't want to see markets opening up. We don't need more kids being trafficked for this shit. But it is absolutely protecting the predators with the means, money and position to protect themselves.
I don't know what the answer is.
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It has played badly with VPNs for a long time, years really. Like it would serve you a captcha but then give you an infinite loading page. Maybe it would submit the request eventually.
So if archive.today is collecting IPs, it will have more useful ones because of being hard to use otherwise.
I have archived over 100,000 pages, easily.
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Yes. It kinda has to be to meet all the elements of "video of a sex crime" and be zero-liability vs federal-pound-me-in-the-ass-prison depending on the age of the victim.
Actually, it doesn't even have to be the victim. One of the rapists could be underage.
The scenario is not especially important.
Could go back to treating it the same as other user-generated content.
Website operators have limited liability unless and until they know some specific piece of content they're hosting is illegal to serve and do not promptly stop serving it.
But there's still the point about videos of crimes usually not being illegal to host, that there are some very very good reasons governments should not, cannot!, be trusted to be permitted to claim otherwise, and yet here's this exception.
There's a little bit of Motte&Bailey inherent to this topic, unfortunately.
Some of those kids have had something absolutely fucking terrible happen to them, at an age where they could do nothing about it.
Some of those kids are 17 and raped a drunk girl at a party.
Some of those kids have normal relationships with other kids and do normal relationship things.
All of this content is equally superduper doubleplus illegal.
This is how you get weird-sounding facts like how most child pornography is manufactured, possessed, distributed, and consumed by children. Then you realize it's teenagers sexting each other.
Prosecutorial discretion already plays a role in avoiding some of the more ridiculous outcomes enforcing the letter of the law would require, but that's sketchy to rely upon when prosecutors are appealing targets for the komprimat operation.
There are also a lot of ways to phrase the questions.
A government of, by, and for politically compromised pedophiles is unambiguously a bigger threat to children (and everyone else who is normal) than the threat posed by people who want to rape children acting in a personal capacity.
The exceptional way we treat sexual content depicting anyone under 18 enables that bigger threat.
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just give it a break and use megalodon instead
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the captcha is broken so you can't use it with a vpn
https://adguard-dns.io/en/blog/archive-today-adguard-dns-block-demand.html [a]
Behind the complaints: Our investigation into the suspicious pressure on Archive.today
November 13, 2025
The FBI has been investigating Archive.is (also known as Archive.today), as was recently revealed. The agency issued a subpoena to the site’s domain registrar, asking for information about the person behind it, citing a “federal criminal investigation.”
Archive.is was launched in 2012 by someone using the name Denis Petrov — though whether that’s their real identity remains unclear. The site lets users save “snapshots” of web pages by submitting URLs, which makes it a valuable tool for preserving content that might otherwise disappear. But because it can also be used to bypass paywalls, it’s long been a thorn in the side of many media organizations.
While the exact nature of the FBI investigation hasn’t been confirmed, it is speculated it can be related to copyright or CSAM (child sexual abuse material) dissemination issues. Altogether, the situation suggests growing pressure on whoever runs Archive.is, and on intermediaries that help make its service accessible. AdGuard DNS, as it turns out, may have just become one such pressure point.
How we got entangled
A few weeks ago, we were contacted by a representative of an organization called the Web Abuse Association Defense, a French group claiming to fight against child pornography. Their website is webabusedefense.com, and here is the archived version as of November 7.
They demanded that we block the domain archive.today (and its mirrors) in AdGuard DNS, alleging that the site’s admin had refused to remove illegal content since 2023. To be clear, Archive.today allows users to take “snapshots” of any webpages, including potentially illegal material. In such cases, it’s the site admin’s job to respond to complaints and promptly remove that content.
This struck us as strange — we’re not a hosting provider, and it seemed unusual for an infrastructure-level service like ours to be asked to take action like this.
Soon after, the situation escalated into what we could only describe as direct threats:
We won’t share all the screenshots here, but there were several similar messages.
We sought legal advice, and unfortunately discovered that French law, specifically Article 6-I-7 of the Loi pour la Confiance dans l'Économie Numérique (LCEN), might actually require us to respond and apply blocking measures, at least for French users.
That said, this whole situation shows just how inadequate this regulation is. Such decisions should be made by a court — a private company shouldn’t have to decide what counts as “illegal” content under threat of legal action.
Even so, the story didn’t quite add up. Since someone was trying to pressure us into taking action, we decided to contact the other side, Archive.today, directly.
We sent an email to Archive.today’s contact address and asked two simple questions:
- Can they remove the illegal content from the URLs we were informed about?
- Is it true that they refused to remove such content in the past, and had they been notified about it before?
They replied within a few hours. The response was straightforward: the illegal content would be removed (and we verified that it was), and they had never received any previous notifications about those URLs.
Moreover, they hinted that Archive.today had been targeted by a campaign of “serial” complaints, supposedly from French organizations, sent to various companies and institutions that could potentially harm the site. They even shared a link demonstrating a complaint similar to the one we had received.
At that point, things were looking increasingly odd, so we decided to dig deeper into the “complainant.”
The Web Abuse Association Defense website references several well-known organizations — Europol, OFAC, NCA — yet provides no details or evidence of any cooperation with them.
The association itself was registered in February–March 2025, around the same time its website appeared. There is very little public information about it. Interestingly, registering an association in France can apparently be done entirely online and does not require proof of identity.
The association is registered at an address used for mass company registration, which isn’t inherently problematic but it does indicate that the entire registration process could have been carried out online by a single person.
Its Twitter/X account appeared only recently — in August 2025. It has just four followers, and its feed consists of just a few reposts.
None of this proves anything by itself, but something still doesn’t add up. In their first email, the “head” of the association claimed that their correspondence with Archive.today started with a bailiff report from 2023. That timeline simply doesn’t fit.
We examined the so-called “bailiff reports” they had sent us as evidence. It’s important to note that these aren’t bailiff reports in the English sense — they’re “constat d’huissier sur Internet,” official records of online content such as webpages, posts, or videos. These particular reports were ordered online via the service called Qualijuris, and based on the timestamps, they were also created in August 2025 — not 2023.
Unfortunately, we couldn’t dig any deeper. The domain webabusedefense.com is registered with name.com, but ownership information (including historical records) is hidden. They use ProtonMail for email, so that’s another dead end. The site itself is behind Cloudflare, making further tracing impossible.
Just in case, we also looked into a similar complaint shared with us by Archive.today’s admin. You can see their public announcement on X for reference. In that case, the complaint appeared to come from a real lawyer — but someone had registered a domain with the lawyer’s surname, containing nothing but a redirect to the lawyer’s actual website. The domain was used solely to send the emails. Interestingly, that email also invoked the LCEN law.
What we have in the end
With everything said and done, here’s where things stand now:
- The illegal content was promptly removed from Archive.today after we notified them.
- The complaints against the site look extremely suspicious. In our case, they came from an organization that was only recently registered that seems deliberately set up to hide the identities of those behind it.
- The sample complaint shared by Archive.today’s admin shows signs of impersonating a real person. We have contacted the person in question and are currently waiting for a reply.
- In both our case and that other example, the recipients were pressured to act under the French LCEN law. However, that same law also provides penalties for false reports:
- We believe there are indications of criminal behavior here that should be investigated by law enforcement. Therefore, we will file an official complaint with the French police, including all relevant details.
- All this is unfolding amid reports of an FBI investigation into the owner of Archive.today. It seems that this investigation may be related to CSAM hosting. While we can’t confirm any connection between that case and ours, the timing is certainly suspicious.
Just got a notif about this blogpost and was wondering if it had gotten posted in this thread. One has to wonder how far the gayops against archive.today are actually going now, its either the shady as fuck french association was tipped off by the same person that notified the FBI, or this is just one of their burner identities that they're using to apply pressure elsewhere. That France has a law specifically forcing Adguard to block the site upon an insane request like this (seriously, "I just told you this exists so now you have to block it or you go to court", the fuck?) implies very intentional regional targeting too.
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the fr*nch arent a race of humans they are humanoid frogs mutated by the same chemicals that make frogs faggots. the eiffel tower is a mind control device convincing women and faggots that paris (the piss capital of the world) is the greatest city in the world, laughable retarded even. the french have other brainwashing centers all over the world (the spikes on the crown of the statue of liberty, the eiffel tower in las vegas and all troughout their former empire for example). the serb race is a offshoot of this frog race however far less cunning and adept then there fr*nch cousins. in 1914 they tried to enslave the human race by convincing europe to destroy the only empire that could alone defeat the frog race the german empire. thankfully however america joined in and ruined their plans. all other future events to destroy america have been orcastrated by froggy controlled robots (hitler, ho chi minh, saddam, tojo etc etc) we must destroy the frog race and their broadcasting centers before it is too late
semper fi, god bless america and fuck the fr*nch frog race
semper fi, god bless america and fuck the fr*nch frog race