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Should be a wild four years.

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Too often, especially online, I see "OH FUCK THAT PERSON THEY'RE A GRIFTER" just because they're monetizing opinions and news
That's not why people get called grifters.
"Oh they're getting attention and making money and I'M NOT! They must be fake, BUT I'M TOTALLY A REAL NIGGA FUCK THOSE GRIFTERS" like OK dude, sure, you wouldn't take money or attention or whatever, sure OK guy (not you specifically, the hypothetical cry baby.)
That person doesn't exist and you're a faggot with daddy issues like most of this thread's residents.
 
The Koreans served Trump wine at their State Dinner to all guests, not just the Americans:
The leaders had a working lunch that included Thousand Island salad dressing, in what Lee's office said was a nod to Trump's "success story in his hometown of New York." The meal also included local specialties "according to President Trump's preferences."

On the menu were "mini beef patties with ketchup", a "Korean Platter of Sincerity" featuring U.S. beef and local rice and soybean paste, and grilled fish with a glaze of ketchup and gochujang, a red chilli paste.

The lunch was capped by a "Peacemaker's Dessert" consisting of a brownie adorned with gold.

The day will wrap up with a dinner with the leaders of Vietnam, Australia, New Zealand, Canada, Thailand, and Singapore. The leaders will be served Trump Chardonnay and Trump Cabernet Sauvignon, from a winery run by Trump's son, Eric Trump, according to Lee's office.
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Aaaaand, the official order granting the preliminary injunction which came down last night on the RIFs case (reductions in force, firings during the shutdown). Forty-seven bullshit pages about how scares and traumatized the union employees are, big bad Orange Man firing people for political retribution, arbitrary and capricious this, unjustifiable bias that, irreparable harm, blah dee fucking blah. I am forced to wonder who actually wrote this for the Clinton-appointed lady judge because listening to her in the hearings shows that he has no clue about any of this shit. In any event, here's the rundown of the actual injunction now in place:
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She gave the government a whole week (how generous!) to file an accounting of all the RIFs, and a whole ten days for each defendant organization to file all-new declarations about how they are complying. Like keeping the entire federal government after class to write "I will not be mean to the unions" over and over on the blackboard.

Now, we wait and see if/when the admin will seek a stay from a higher court, as they have repeatedly hinted, quietly, in previous filings. Fingers crossed.
Isn't the whole "political retribution" assumption a tacit admission that the burocracy is entirely partisan?

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That's not why people get called grifters.

That person doesn't exist and you're a faggot with daddy issues like most of this thread's residents.
That person exists literally in this thread. OH WOW YOU CALLED ME A FAGGOT. OK dude, real cool, maybe a "nigger" next? Or "retard" today? Get new material you fucking chode. Go and actually live in the real world for 1 day, you're as bad as the dorks on Reddit I swear to fucking god lol.
 
Aaaaand, the official order granting the preliminary injunction which came down last night on the RIFs case (reductions in force, firings during the shutdown). Forty-seven bullshit pages about how scares and traumatized the union employees are, big bad Orange Man firing people for political retribution, arbitrary and capricious this, unjustifiable bias that, irreparable harm, blah dee fucking blah. I am forced to wonder who actually wrote this for the Clinton-appointed lady judge because listening to her in the hearings shows that he has no clue about any of this shit. In any event, here's the rundown of the actual injunction now in place:
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She gave the government a whole week (how generous!) to file an accounting of all the RIFs, and a whole ten days for each defendant organization to file all-new declarations about how they are complying. Like keeping the entire federal government after class to write "I will not be mean to the unions" over and over on the blackboard.

Now, we wait and see if/when the admin will seek a stay from a higher court, as they have repeatedly hinted, quietly, in previous filings. Fingers crossed.
Great bait. The unions MIGHT get it through that lay offs DURING the shut down are not going to be legal BUT there is nothing preventing lay offs AFTER the shut down, OR alternatively keeping the shut down going PRACTICALLY having them staying without an income as the treasury cannot pay them. one or another way 1000s of federal employed leeches are going to better look for another source of income
 
Great bait. The unions MIGHT get it through that lay offs DURING the shut down are not going to be legal BUT there is nothing preventing lay offs AFTER the shut down, OR alternatively keeping the shut down going PRACTICALLY having them staying without an income as the treasury cannot pay them. one or another way 1000s of federal employed leeches are going to better look for another source of income
If the RIFs can go through then those people laid off won't get backpay
 
That botox bitch housewife is now saying what all the terminally online liberals are thinking, be prepared:
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Jake Fapper trying to tell the democrats you're the baddies to try and salvage his gay party:
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Chyna trying to kiss ass before the meeting tomorrow:
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We cannot put the genie back in the bottle. It would be like trying to repeal the 13th and enslave the Africans again.
We could, but probably not by the same democratic means that we (read: men) gave them (loud-mouthed, uppity women) the franchise. But if a critical mass (this is the key part) of men coalesced around the idea that allowing women to vote has been a ruinous experiment and that the time has come to put an end to it, there's really nothing women could do.
 
I really didn’t watch Charlie but he was more useful than Spic Fuentes because he wasn’t a fed, gay, autistic, and incompetent. Fuentes can become more popular as a commentator but he will never organize as well as Kirk. At best he’s astroturfed at worst he’s an autistic self sabotaging sperg. Mark my words he may become more popular but he will never bring meaningful change in a positive way.
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I hate doing this, but I did a few write-ups on this rivalry a while ago that explains much of what we are seeing today.
When it comes to the recent interviews around the web, and especially Tucker's softball interview. I did a long-form analysis on this and what it means here.


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Tucker Carlson is going through the same process as John Tron.​

What is going on?​

    • Being charitable, Tucker currently is going through what most people go through once they believe they find a hidden truth, that turns current reality on its head (Ie: Learning that criticising Israel isn't the end of the world and is ok to do).
    • They want to tell everyone and anyone that will listen and will consume/engage with media/people/ideas that seemingly align with this new worldview, or they think is further down the learning path and hopes that incorporating them will accelerate their journey to proslatize it to everyone.
    [*]

John Tron went through something similar​

    • Since we all know online lolcows and events, let me take an example of this, John Tron's Race, Iq and crime correlations.
    • John found a hidden truth that seemingly explains what was known as the unexplainable.
    • Instead of being able to hold back, internalize this truth, learn from it, and present it correctly, he instead wanted to get this information into the hands of people by presenting the statistics without providing a convincing context/narrative around them.
    • Using Plato's Cave analogy
      • This made him look like an Sperg that does not empathize with people that have not discovered his truth yet, and has no way to put himself in their shoes and guide them through mental darkness to the light.
      • Instead, he yells at the exit that they are stupid to not know what the outside of the cave looks like. And disappointed they did not exit the cave with him at the same time.
    • Without going through the process of internalizing and reviewing your new beliefs, you believe that showing people the end point of it will be enough to convince them, because it now (after you went through your own journey without knowing it) convinces you, the believer.
    [*]

What are the effects of Tucker going through this?​

    • The above segment ties to Tucker as it is the same process he is going through now. After learning about Israel and allowing criticism of it, Tucker wants and has been (if you look at his Channel) taking on anyone who agrees with him or is further down the pipe.
    • Every roadblock / strong opposition that proves this new stance is more grounded in the "new reality" only emboldens him more to seek more extreme ideas/tactics, (not saying wrong) to fight the roadblocks.
    • Look at Tucker's complete disdain for Ted Cruz after his interview with Tucker on Israel. A complete and total 180 on the prior relationship, with new lenses to see Ted now as one of the gatekeepers who keep people from knowing Tucker's new personal truth.
    [*]

Why Nick, with all his baggage?​

    • Nick is a popular figure that is seen by people that, Tucker now believes are his enemies, as a great evil.
    • Tucker to strike back against them wants to normalize this enemy to create more discord for his rivals.
    • This means that Nick will get the most softball questions, that allows Nick to continue his Rebrand Tour that I mentioned in my post below.
    • The issue here is while Nick will present himself as the next logical step for Tucker fans to incorporate in their daily lives, (follows on TikTok, watching streams, etc..) Tucker has effectively led his own fans into a viper's nest.
    • Because Tucker does not want to criticise his new ally he creates a blind spot that will be easily exploited in the future by democrats if Nick becomes more mainstream.
      • His pedo, Ali Alexander
      • Holocaust denial remarks
      • Extreme Trump hate
      • Gay Catboy drama
      • Not going to jail on J6 despite being on camera ordering followers to enter the capital
      • etc...
    • Promoting Nick as the next big figure for Conservatives to move to after Charlie's Death, (Which make no mistake, is what Tucker and Nick are doing explicitly). Is teeing up the easiest homerun for anyone on the left with a little bit of reach/memability to tear down and embarrass the right wing.
    [*]
    Well the point is that Nick is trying to rebrand himself as "Trump Critical / Anti-Peter Thiel".
    The biggest uphill battle here is that his Trump Critical points are either:
    1. Completely untrue: In the Trump Review section of the video. He claims we have not received any deportation figures in 6 months. When the fact is we do get a massive amount of information concerning not only deportation but (self deportation, border crossings, arrests at the border, ICE detainees, etc...). The result of this is that anyone informed on the real politics of the world and is not a loser who gets all their news from Nick can see that it is not criticism but instead, out-in-out anti-Trump propaganda.
    2. Anti-Win stance / Demoralization: Whenever something good happens or something that the right voted for gets enacted, Nick is always there to tell you not to believe your lying eyes and to not celebrate your wins. For example, in Nick's mind, we are completely controlled by Israel and will go to war for them 100 times out of 100. But then the perfect situation strikes, (literally) Israel strikes Iran in the midst of our negotiations. Did we go to war with them, did a single American solider die, or did Trump pull off a master-class of poltical and military strategy and successfully descalate the situation to the point where America gets everything we want, and Israel loses everything they want, (Their Iron Dome shown to the world as imperfect, no regime change, and no war with Iran). But people like Nick would have you believe that this means that, you lose.
    3. Never Enough / Moving Goalposts: Any gain towards what the right wants is never enough. Nick seems to think that instead of making gains and inroads with the American people across all spectrums, (Which Trump has with the highest Latino and Black vote in Republican history with it only growing as we push further rightward), we should just jump into the deepend with no-laws enacted, no hearts and minds won over, no political inroads made, and no lasting iron clad hard to remove changes impleted. Instead of a Run-don't-Walk falacy of the Turtle and the Hare, Nick has the idea of Teleport to pulto and wait for everyone else to want to come over while you tell them to fuck-off and you hate them.
    4. Nick has the same mindset as the Neo-Cons "Lose with Dignity": Instead of seeing the deportation of Anti-Isreal immigrants as what it actually is, (an amazing excuse to deport more 3rd worlders and anti-Whites [because they do conflate Israelies with Whites] out of America. With bipartisan support), Nick would like to keep the Antifa Soros puppets in America to continue to brainwash the young masses in college to ruin their lives. (And yes that one student who was tied to British intelligence was very old compared to his fellow students. Anyone with a brain knows that his real job was as a political recruiter and saboteur of America's youth.) But because they said something anti-Jew we should never deport them. If an illegal screams "Free Palestine!" we should not be allowed to deport them. This is the AF mindset.
    Charles or Nick (Sam's friend not the gay kid in his basement), really needs to take Sam aside and tell him that he is doing the same self-destructive actions that got their show canceled. Sam hangs around many unfunny low-T Zoomers that worship the ground he walks on. The issue is that Sam, someone with no wife and children, wants to feel young and hang with the Zoomer crowd. These people are very likely pushing Sam to make his poltical podcast like show as we all know every Zoomer at one-point thinks they should get into poltical podcasting. These people also probably sold Sam a bag of shit when they compared Nick's deplatforming (something very suspicious since if he really was blacklisted, then why doesn't YT or other hosting sites pull down videos he stars in on their site.) to his own Blacklisting. Sam probably felt some sort of kinship with this and decided to do this interview months ago, (since Nick does not bring up Tucker Carlson we can assume this to be fact. Especially since Nick's ego is so inflated it would have been the main topic dejour.)

    Sam really does need to decide if he wants to go down this poltics route if so, he should start to challenge his guests or do more research on them. Because after watching his show a few times the most he ever does is unfunny remarks or non-sequeters and never makes any insights or challenges at all, UNLESS the guest is complimenting a people/group he does not like, for example, his boomer episode is the only time I heard him correcting a guest and getting mad when she disagreed. Sam does not have the chops to be a political figure for the masses and is relying on Zoomers to superimpose their entire belief system on him, much like they do with Nick.
 
If the RIFs can go through then those people laid off won't get backpay
If I understand the document correctly, the entire argument for backpay of the judge and the unions rely on a broad definition of "irreparable harm" and an expansion by this lower court of the supreme court ruling on "irreparable harm", which the back then plaintiff failed to show. Also the argument that the RIFs were not issued with the required, and that isnt clear in the document 30 or 60 days notice, is funnily enough defused by the document itself riding on the September 26 Memorandum, which looking at the date has been more than 30 days ago. No matter how this bait turns out, the federal government is going to massively downsize, with the Consolation prize for the useless leeches that have been living of somebody else assumed productivity, and that is if a higher court doesn't find that this court never had the position to issue injunction and hear the plaintiffs, being 2 months back pay,

New Public Management in action - a method that was championed by Clinton. And the argument comes down to again, "if they do it it is "bad" if we do it it is "just" "
 
That person exists literally in this thread. OH WOW YOU CALLED ME A FAGGOT. OK dude, real cool, maybe a "nigger" next? Or "retard" today? Get new material you fucking chode. Go and actually live in the real world for 1 day, you're as bad as the dorks on Reddit I swear to fucking god lol.
Don't be such a faggot.
 
Wait, are y'all suggesting that they may replace Charlie Kirk with Fed Fuentes? If so, that's a death sentence for that movement; there are a lot of receipts.
 
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