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In July 2025, Uganda’s courts swiftly dismissed a petition challenging the legality of polygamy, citing the protection of religious and cultural freedom. For most social scientists and policymakers who have long declared polygamy a “harmful cultural practice,” the decision was a frustrating but predictable setback in efforts to build healthier and more equal societies.

In the vast majority of cases, polygamy takes the form of one husband and multiple wives – more precisely referred to as polygyny, originating from the Greek words “poly” (“many”) and “gynē” (“woman or wife”). The opposite arrangement of one wife and multiple husbands is referred to as polyandry (from “anēr” meaning “man” or “husband”) and is exceedingly rare worldwide.

Critics of polygyny present two main arguments. First, they contend it squeezes low-status men out of the marriage market, fostering social unrest, crime and violence against women by frustrated unwed men. Second, it harms women and children by dividing limited resources among more dependents.

This logic has led leading political scientist Rose McDermott to describe polygyny as evil. Other researchers, such as anthropologist Joseph Henrich, even go as far as to credit Christianity’s derision of polygyny as a driving force of Western prosperity.

However, a trio of new studies, all relying on the highest standards of data analysis, contend that these arguments are misguided.

I have spent my career working at the intersection of anthropology and global health, researching how and why family structure varies – and what this diversity means for human well-being. Much of this work has been carried out with colleagues in Tanzania where, like Uganda, polygyny is relatively common. This new wave of work underscores the value of our research, effectively demonstrating that good intentions and intuition are no substitute for cultural sensitivity and evidence.

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Only about 2% of the global population lives in polygamous households, and in most places the proportion is less than 0.5%. Pew Research Center (PEW RESEARCH CENTER/THE CONVERSATION)

Does polygyny lock men out of marriage?

A new study published in October 2025 in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences presents the first comprehensive, large-scale analysis of polygyny and men’s marriage prospects. The project is a collaboration between demographer Hampton Gaddy and evolutionary anthropologists Rebecca Sear and Laura Fortunato.

The researchers drew on demographic modelling and an extraordinary trove of census data – over 84 million records from 30 countries in Africa, Asia and Oceania, plus the entire U.S. census from 1880, when polygyny was practiced in some American communities. They demonstrate that polygyny does not lock large numbers of men out of marriage. In fact, in many contexts, men are actually more likely to marry where polygyny is common than where it is rare.

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Studies have shown polygynous households to typically be wealthier.

The narrative that polygyny leads to lonely bachelors is intuitive. In a community with equal numbers of men and women, if one man marries two wives, then another man must remain unmarried. Expand that across a whole society, and polygyny looks like a recipe for an army of resentful, single men.

Parallel arguments have been made about the rise of incel – a portmanteau of “involuntary” and “celibate” – subcultures within monogamous nations, including the U.S. Here, the argument is that high-status men leave low-status men sexless and frustrated, ultimately leading to violence.

The trouble is that real demography is not so simple. Women typically live longer than men, men frequently marry younger women, and populations in many parts of the world are growing, ensuring younger spouses are available for older cohorts. These factors, which are characteristic of many contemporary African nations, tilt the marriage market toward a surplus of women. Under many realistic conditions, a sizeable proportion of men can have multiple wives without leaving their peers out in the cold.

In fact, in nearly half of the countries examined, higher rates of polygyny were associated with fewer, not more, unmarried men. Only a handful of countries showed the expected positive relationship, and even then inconsistently over time.

The case of historical Mormon communities in North America is equally revealing. When the researchers compared counties with documented Mormon polygyny to others in the 1880 census, they found lower rates of unmarried men in polygynous areas. Gaddy and his colleagues contend that this is explained by the tendency for cultural norms that favour polygyny to also be relatively pronatalist, driving marriage rates upward for all.

Do women and children get a smaller share?

What about the argument that polygyny harms women and children by dividing male-owned wealth among more mouths to feed? There certainly are studies that have demonstrated associations between polygyny and poor health. But another line of thinking argues that correlation should not be equated with causation.

Ten years ago, my colleagues and I documented that polygyny is associated with higher food insecurity and poor child health when comparing outcomes across over 50 Tanzanian villages. However, this pattern was an artifact of polygyny being most common in marginalised Maasai communities, which tend to live in drought-prone areas with inadequate health care. Moreover, when comparing families within communities, polygynous households were typically wealthier, a key factor in making polygyny attractive to women, and children were not disadvantaged.

Echoing these results, anthropologist Riana Minocher and her colleagues recently published a study that uses a detailed, longitudinal dataset from a 20-year prospective study in another region of Tanzania. Analysing survival, growth and education for thousands of children, they found no evidence that monogamous marriage is advantageous.

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Polygamy is most widespread in some countries in West and Central Africa.

Together, these results support a theory known as the polygyny threshold model. Simply put, provided women have choice in marriage, sharing a husband is unlikely to be economically detrimental, since they will prioritise marrying men with sufficient wealth to offset any cost. This scenario may not fit all contexts, but these studies clearly undercut claims that polygyny is unequivocally harmful.

Hidden advantages of polygyny

Another recent study, published in August 2025 by economist Sylvain Dessy and his colleagues, goes further, suggesting that polygyny has unrecognised advantages when times are tough.

Drawing on crop yield data from over 4,000 farm households across Mali, census data on marriage patterns and detailed meteorological records, they found that in villages where polygyny is rare, droughts cut harvests dramatically. But in villages where polygyny is common, that blow is softened.

The researchers argue that polygynous marriage, by increasing the number of in-laws, creates stronger networks of social support. Furthermore, with wives often coming from different villages and regions, extended kin are well positioned to send food, money or labor when local crops fail. Such support helps to explain both the resilience of polygynous communities during drought and the continued endurance of the marriage practice from one generation to the next.

So, is polygyny harmless?

These studies don’t mean that polygyny is harmless. Indeed, allowing men but not women to have multiple spouses is clearly unequal and entwined with patriarchal ideology that positions women as subordinate or inferior to men. Recent studies, for example, have suggested that polygynous marriages are more prone to intimate partner violence.

In short, there remain multiple ways polygyny can be harmful.

Nevertheless, the best evidence suggests that polygyny is unlikely to be a root cause of social unrest. Moreover, within wider patriarchal systems that afford few women, regardless of marital status, economic and social security, polygyny may not just be a tolerable choice but in some contexts a preferred arrangement with tangible benefits for both genders.

Simplistic stories about the dangers of polygyny can be compelling and intuitive, but they risk misleading the public, reinforcing stubborn notions of Western cultural superiority and disrupting effective global health policy by sidelining more pertinent initiatives. Building healthier societies necessitates paying attention to the evidence and remaining open to the possibility that all family structures have capacity to cause harm.




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It's all so tiresome.
 
Thats because we force monogamy, allowing polygyny will allow older women to just retire as first wifes instead of cat ladies . It also forces men to marry because women get snapped from the market either way . Right now majority of women are forced to dance like monkey for subpar men for the "chance" of marriage and kids and pray they dont end up forever girlfriends. You faggots wanted the birth rate fixed here is a solution for you. And it wont be THAT many men either , you need one or two percent of the women in this sort of marriages to tilt properly the scales and remove trash men from the dating market.
>I really care about women being abused
>I support polygamy so Chad can allow hags to exist in his presence

You are so stupid one shouldn't even correct you but fuck it it's funny.
First of all, fertility is equally dogshit in polygamous nations.
Second of all, the rate of domestic abuse is higher.
Third women are equally sub par in today's society if not more so.
Fourth women are currently being abused by the left over men from polygamous societies emigrating to the west to rape and plunder.
Fifth there are only soo many men that could afford more than one wife and by the very nature of the thing it will be one higher social/financial status man with multiple lower status women. A doctor or lawyer is not gonna share a man if she can help it, especially as that will cause her to inherit the social stigmas of the lower class woman. You are infact making it so midlife crisis men can marry their prostitutes. You're arguing for Nick Rekietas
Sixth the rate of child abuse goes up as non blood related relatives with access to the children increases exponentially.
Seventh the quality of parenting goes down as now the man has to deal with multiple women reducing the already limited time for the children.
Eight the social capital of female children goes down. Since men will become vectors of collecting dowries and collecting social and financial legacies people will start caring less and less for the girls as now they will be seen as not carrying the family's future.
Ninth the only people I've seen trying for it is browns, creeps and absolute specimens like Nick Rekieta and Ethan Oliver Ralph
Tenth, polycules in the west are not chad and his eleven stacies but a fat slam pig and her five cucklets the exact opposite of what you are proposing.
Eleven it promotes consanguineous marriage. As there are less men to go around you end up with a lot more cousin fucking.
 
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It's not polygamy, it's "polygyny".
The first thing these degenerates do is try to change the word so as to delude you to think it as something else.
Same with those degens who say "it's not pedophiles, it's map"
Line them all up.
 
Out of curiosity, what do you believe women duty actually is in society?
i'm not sure why you're bothering to ask
it's either no one's duty to society or to just exist peaceably in it when it comes to these statements
one's retarded and the other's naive, which is just a polite way of saying retarded

the vast majority of people are average
the average person is fucking retarded and does stupid shit when left alone
make them responsible for each other, and they're remarkably less retarded and now doing smart things because they have to be responsible

we shouldn't have to be x thinking despite it being a pillar of society is how we get this
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feel good "rationalism" just leads to maladjustments because we are illogical, retarded creatures that can think enough to think we're all logical
 
i'm not sure why you're bothering to ask
it's either no one's duty to society or to just exist peaceably in it when it comes to these statements
one's retarded and the other's naive, which is just a polite way of saying retarded

the vast majority of people are average
the average person is fucking retarded and does stupid shit when left alone
make them responsible for each other, and they're remarkably less retarded and now doing smart things because they have to be responsible

we shouldn't have to be x thinking despite it being a pillar of society is how we get this
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feel good "rationalism" just leads to maladjustments because we are illogical, retarded creatures that can think enough to think we're all logical
I'm asking because we always hear "its not women's duty to do this, its not women's duty to do that, its not women's responsibility to do this, its not women's responsibility to do that", and I would just like to know for once what exactly are women's responsibilities to supposed to be.

Men have at least mandatory 1 responsibility enforced by the state, that being to get conscripted and die.
 
I'm asking because we always hear "its not women's duty to do this, its not women's duty to do that, its not women's responsibility to do this, its not women's responsibility to do that", and I would just like to know for once what exactly are women's responsibilities to supposed to be.

Men have at least mandatory 1 responsibility enforced by the state, that being to get conscripted and die.
be prepared to be disappointed
whether you get an answer or not
 
I'm asking because we always hear "its not women's duty to do this, its not women's duty to do that, its not women's responsibility to do this, its not women's responsibility to do that", and I would just like to know for once what exactly are women's responsibilities to supposed to be.

Men have at least mandatory 1 responsibility enforced by the state, that being to get conscripted and die.
ok so if women could also get drafted then men and woman would have explicitly equal duties enforced by the state. since we havent had a draft in 50 years despite multiple wars and increases in military spending, this duty is really not relevant at all to anyone in the US. what exactly do you think women should be forced to do by the state in the name of responsibility/duty?
 
Well guys, I at least know what my duty is and it is to my family first and then my community. Same as my husband. This seems like a non sequitur to my assertion that women's duty is not coupling with otherwise undesirable men. What does it matter what I think women should do, unless it's just that you guys are worn out with the braggadocios behavior of BPD Tiktok whores. By the way, I also don't think it's mens duty to spank a BP woman into behaving either. It doesn't work. Don't we all know some poor sap whose life and family was ruined by thinking he can tame her?

Do we all agree that single motherhood is not ideal? If any of you do, then why advocate for forming relationships that are very likely to be dysfunctional and result in single motherhood?
 
As I understand (and it's an idea I only came to recently), the Western tradition of monogamy - which was European before it was Christian, and it's actually Hellenistic culture, as I understand, that introduced it to Judaism - has a religious rationale as well in that eros is supposed to be another sort of model for agape in the same way that philia and storge are.

It's one you almost never hear of anymore, outside of Catholics still using the metaphor of the Church as bride, but it's like, you hear a lot of metaphors as Jesus as your buddy (philia) and Jesus as your daddy whose lap you sit on (storge), but there was also Jesus as lover (eros) in an exclusive relationship that involves total union. You often hear romance described as feeling like the two parties add up to something greater, become one person, complete each other, etc. Of course people go absolutely crazy with this shit these days to the point of walking out on marriages, or never settling for a marriage in the first place, because they're chasing a fantasy ideal of it. Older Catholicism/Orthodoxy and even early Protestantism still emphasized this, but modern Protestantism has the baggage of the Victorian Era and its prudishness lingering over it to this day.

Taken in that sense, monogamy becomes important because the erotic relationship is, like all the other forms of love, training for a specific aspect of godliness, in this case the full surrender to/creative realignment with God's will, expressed in this case through the same social relationships that continue our species and race, same as how our other social relationships train us more in terms of care or general benevolence.

None of which has to do with the social benefits of polygamy, but that's how I understand it (now).
 
Do we all agree that single motherhood is not ideal? If any of you do, then why advocate for forming relationships that are very likely to be dysfunctional and result in single motherhood?
I'm quite loathe to interject in this circlejerk between A&H gender wars regulars but here goes:

I think the issue that's being debated is what an undesirable man is and which women aren't doing their "duty". If my observations are right, an undesirable man is a violent schizophrenic to some and a socially inept computer programmer to others. A slacking woman is either a BPD tiktok thot living her best life or a career woman who hasn't made romance a part of her life.

Clearly, there are absolutely horrible people who should not get married, should never reproduce, frankly ought to be sterilized so they never do reproduce, and will be a blight upon anyone misfortunate enough to live with them. Unfortunately, the modern world is tailor made to allow these people to find each other and breed the next generation of career criminals. I assure you that the Tiktok whores and drug slinging gangsters will produce progeny to the detriment of everyone else. Welfare in its countless forms allows stupid, impulsive people to raise kids without the historic obligations to hold down a job to provide for them. Dad's a serial killer in prison? Doesn't matter. Baby mama can swipe that EBT. Ironically, irregular mating outside of marriage is probably the most common form of polygamy in the developed world and it's the worst people who practice it. Remember, the extremely poor have more kids than the middle class. And, no, respectable people should never be forced to wed such scum. Society needs to be working to stop the literal worst from swelling their ranks.

On the other end of the spectrum, there is growing discontent from otherwise reasonable people who with some social pressure would settle down, grow up, and be productive members of the community. As the real world is devoured by the internet, people are becoming more and more isolated and deranged. Ridiculous beliefs that would never stand the test of real life interactions are never challenged and it becomes easy for people to carry absurd beliefs. Kids don't ruin your life. Your career probably won't give you purpose. No one irl cares about your video game speedruns or the number of views on your husky's instagram. I maintain that the typical miserable sap in the modern world lies in this category and not the violently psychotic category. Call it optimism, but it's not healthy to go through life believing most of the people around you are awful.

There are presently societal wide issues with the relations between the sexes but they won't get resolved by strawmanning the opposition like some political debate. It doesn't help that many of the people on KF pushing these absurd debates are themselves shitty people who are incapable of maintaining a relationship or are abusive in their own rights. Don't forget how many halal's KF has seen where it turned out that some of the users here write rape fapfiction or manipulate the people in their lives. When you see people rack up dozens of posts in the man/woman hate threads, it's a good sign that they're projecting something.

As I see it, men and women are two sides of a coin that will probably never see eye to eye. We have been bickering at each other since the dawn of written history. A core part of growing up is coming to terms that the opposite sex is different from you and that it's ok. You learn to deal with these differences and find whatever happiness you can with someone else. Arguments about men or women owing each other something are missing the more important point that our civilization is designed with the assumption that you'll meet someone to share your life with. If you have an issue with that person, you're supposed to handle it like an adult and talk it out instead of throwing a tantrum like a child. Married couples have disagreements and a good relationship moves past these without building resentment. The alternative to a mediocre relationship is rarely a good relationship but rather a bad or no relationship at all. Comparing your spouse to an imaginary platonic ideal is a recipe for disaster and certain to ruin what may very well be a good thing you have going.
 
ok so if women could also get drafted then men and woman would have explicitly equal duties enforced by the state.
So just establishing then, you believe that women's duty in society is to be a shittier version of men? Is that it?
since we havent had a draft in 50 years despite multiple wars and increases in military spending, this duty is really not relevant at all to anyone in the US.
The instant a real war breaks out that threatens the US men are getting drafted, don't be daft.
what exactly do you think women should be forced to do by the state in the name of responsibility/duty?
Don't know, that's why I'm asking.
 
Remember the movie Chasing Amy? I'm going to powerlevel here for a second. I was involved in something kind of like that but without the underlying gay undertones. Anyway, Holden (Ben Affleck) is all kinds of conflicted about his girlfriend Alyssa's (Joey Lauren Adams) past and his best friend Banky (Jason Lee) and all kinds of tension between the three of them. Anyway, Holden suggests that the three of them sleep together to resolve all that tension. She has this great line where she says how hurt she would be if Holden ever wanted to share her because she would never want to share him. Having been in that kind of a situation I can tell you these people who just want some bizarre open relationship or polycule or whatever it is so they could just sportfuck without repercussions might not get that they are actually hurting someone in the process. He or she might not say anything, but humans are hard wired to want to be with one person at a time and this "oh sure, fuck who you want when you want" is just going against that hardwiring and is on some level betrayal, even if the other person is self-delusional about the effect of it.

People want to be someone's only one and it sucks when the other person doesn't go along with that.
 
When you have more than one woman in the house their periods tend to sync. Can you imagine two or three women on their period at the same time, all crabby as hell and getting on your shit?

If you can get past that, or can deal with it, and all the wives are treated properly and equitably, and you can afford it, then no problem with polygamy. Suggest some wealthy families have a version of this, where the husband and wife have a 'companion', a younger lady, who is sort of a wife 1A to both the husband and the wife. The 'companion' could be a college student, whom in return for being a companion, is supported and put through school by the couple. When the companion graduates, she departs and the couple could get another companion. In some cases the companion could be a young man, or maybe both a young man and a young woman.

Long as they don't bother me the fuck bucket is empty, do as you like.

But I am not really one for polyandry, don't like the idea of the poor wife getting sandwiched.
 
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Polyamory is fun in fiction, not so much in real life.
Polyamory doesn't work because humans are inherently territorial and programmed to prefer one mate. When a polycule relationship inevitably ends, it's usually because two members choose their favorite (each other) and grow bored with the third/others. Sometimes this ends in actual violence.

Sure, there's exceptions, as humans are vastly more complicated than the rest of the animal kingdom. But the exceptions are cases where someone wants to have their cake and eat it too: go and get pussy/dick from new flings all the time but still have the cushion of a primary significant other at home. Usually they manage to find/trap a doormat primary mate that is won't fight this.
 
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