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2023 Israel-Palestine Armed Conflict: Official Mass Debates Edition
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Trying to refer to Carbon Monoxide as "lethal gas" is peak "call something with complicated names so single digit morons will think it's worse":
The whole article is basically "how dare Israel not sacrifice hundreds of lives fighting us on our own terms", while also trying to portray them as hypocritical for putting hostages lives in danger, rather than blaming the people who hold the hostages in the front lines.
Also interesting it uses an Israeli organisation for information, wonder how many Palestinian organisations give pro Israeli propaganda...
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Using carbon monoxide to clear out burrowing rodents is a standard pest control practice. They even do it in California.
I can't wait for the first KFC to be built in Gaza, bros. Just need to take care of the rat problem first.
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Ah yes, carbon monoxide gas chambers.... Just like in the guard barracks in auschwitz!
(for those not in the know, there are two gas chambers in the guard barrack basement which suspiciously look like bathroom stalls with "bottom open" wooden doors on the right side of the stairs in the basement)
(for those not in the know, there are two gas chambers in the guard barrack basement which suspiciously look like bathroom stalls with "bottom open" wooden doors on the right side of the stairs in the basement)
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Screamer_2
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It's quite interesting to see. It is meaningless theatre about falsifying what happened and their complicity for when we reach the day after the genocide is done and everyone claims they were always against it.
They can point back and go, "we were always against it, look we even recognised a Palestinian state." I don't quite no how the reframing will fit with all these countries still supporting Israel the day after. Unless the plan is to not.
A lot will depend how effective the plan for restricting the internet, mass censorship, propoganda, only approved websites and Government digital ID to be online actually will be to.
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See, it's strange, really. You're not wrong that these countries recognizing "Palestine" is meaningless theater, but to think it's to somehow create cover for some future government pretending they opposed whatever "genocide" happening is nonsense.
I mean, first, the most obvious reason is that there really isn't a genocide.
Second, the far more simple answer is that a number of these countries have imported far too many Muslims, which have become voting blocs that support a number of these governments. Meaningless actions like this are done to try to alleviate the pressure upon said governments getting pestered by Muslims and their leftist useful idiots.
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When in the near future there are at most a few hundred thousand Gazans living there and however that will be framed. There will be a negative way many people and nations will view it. People may also one day notice what is currently happening in the West Bank.
You're also correct in it also being a meaningless gesture to try and appease the immigrant populations. An immigrant population which will soon have more Gazans. I assume the charade is being done because they anticipate the conflict will be viewed negatively when it is done.
We also have no idea how this conflict will end and what that will look like.
If Bibi wins out over his generals and gets the war with Iran going again in the next few months, that has the potential of spiralling. Iran could crumble quickly. President Peace, Daddy Trump may come in full force, but he may not.
What if the newly installed Chinese and Russian air defences are effective? What if Iran learnt from the last war and improved their targeting? There's no reason to assume Bibi wouldn't use a nuke if Iran put up a good effort. He can do whatever he wants, and the worst is some allies going, "we recognise a Palestinian state." to which he goes, "Never going to fucking happen" and he's right, and everyone knows it.
Everything is still in motion.
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When do you predict this will happen? A year? 2? 5? 10?
I'm old, I've heard these sorts of "oh there's a superduper genocide in Gaza/Palestine" since I've became politically aware. I just keep hearing "Wolf! Wolf" for 20+ fucking years.
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I don't know the timeline for driving Gazan's south and getting them into Sinai. I assume it will vary with how operations such as the destruction of Gaza city go. It will also depend on how other conflicts go. Lebanon is trying to regroup for an offensive against Israel. May or may not happen. There's too many variables for me to make any prediction on timelines. Like, if the war with Iran starts again.
Trump could tomorrow grow a spin and cut off Israel. How could the mid term elections that'll go badly for him impact it? Will Kamala and Pete be the candidates in the next US election and lose to JD Vance. Will the Dem's run someone that can win that Israel can't control. So many things could derail it, so I would lean on them wanting it to happen as soon as possible before the next US election. There's also going to be a massive upheavil in European countries over the next two years. Although they're sub cucks and probably could do jack all to stop Israel.
Will Bibi ever face consequences for his legal woes. Would that put someone in who is the same, better or worse. As I said, everything is in motion. Whether they can do what they want, get the greater Israel or not is currently unknown. At this stage I will assume they will, why would I bet against Bibi? I don't like him, he'll go down in the history books as a monster but he's effective and a genius.
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https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/196/196-20251022-adv-01-00-en.pdf (decision)
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/196/196-20251022-pre-01-00-en.pdf (Small Summary/Press Release)
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/196/196-20251022-sum-01-00-en.pdf (Long Summary)
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/196/196-20251022-pre-01-00-en.pdf (Small Summary/Press Release)
https://www.icj-cij.org/sites/default/files/case-related/196/196-20251022-sum-01-00-en.pdf (Long Summary)
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"No Israeli Child you must be nice to the people who attacked you in the 1960s and lost"
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Nooooo Israel stop you are breaking the law and if you don't then I will be mad and wag my finger at yuo.
Then you'll be sorry.
Nothing ever happens.
Then you'll be sorry.
Nothing ever happens.
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STOP POSTING ABOUT ISRAEL AND PALESTINE! I’M TIRED OF SEEING IT! My friends on TikTok send me political infographics, on Discord it’s fucking debates! I was in a server, right? And ALL OF THE CHANNELS were just people arguing about Gaza. I—I showed my girlfriend a meme of a cat and she said, “okay but what about Palestine?” I flipped my phone and said “hey babe, when the borders are SUS HAHA HAVA NAGILA HAVA, NAGILA HAVA” I looked at a map and said, “THAT’S A BIT CONTESTED.” I opened the fridge, saw hummus, and started shaking—thinking about ceasefires! I looked at my penis, saw the curve, and thought “partition.” AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
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There is no such thing as international law other than commercial law, which is a bottom-up system narrowly intended to facilitate making money, and maritime law, which is just western customs given the effect of law plus maritime treaties given effect by each signatory sovereign. Göring was entirely correct about the idea of "crimes against humanity" and international law at Nuremberg.
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I request an Advisory Opinion from the same court regarding Russian occupation of Ukraine, Chinese Occupation of Tibet, Pakistani Occupation of Kashmir and the Polish occupation of rightful German clay.
The court is a fucking muppet show and nobody with a brain gives two shits what they think.
The court is a fucking muppet show and nobody with a brain gives two shits what they think.
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I wonder how often the "International Court" gets simple letters from various parties that read "lol, lmao even, fuck off, cheers m8" or words to that effect. What actual authority does that thing even have? I know it was a justice LARP after WWII to give everybody their "nazis bad m'kay" short-stroking sessions, but what else is it even useful for?
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They did. In 2024 Ukraine waived its right to bring Crimea challenge and asked the court about Russian actions in supporting 2014 fighers against Ukraine.
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/russian-special-military-operation-in-the-ukraine.150029/post-17633366
In regards to current Russian war in Ukraine, it likewise made rulings on the matter:
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/invasion-of-ukraine-news-megathread.113457/post-11424956
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/community-feature-submissions.114933/post-20830324
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/community-feature-submissions.114933/post-16438100
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/russian-special-military-operation-in-the-ukraine.150029/post-15400384
Sorry if I missed any.
I don't think they have weighed on the Polish issue though. Shame
Edit: Missed this one regarding Russia and 2014 Ukraine
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/community-feature-submissions.114933/post-20820371
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If Israel is defined as occupying Gaza because it controls the flow of materials and people in and out of it wouldn't Egypt also be defined as occupying Gaza because they control the rafah crossing?
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No, they are brown, they cannot be an oppressor.