Debate SSJ ness if a 13 year old girl, a pedophiles victim, should be called a slut or not . - SSJ NESS HAS HIS MIDLIFE CRISIS DEBATE THREAD , please be patient with him he is childless womanless haggot

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child marriage was a semi-regular occurrence in the whole world for much of human history, not just in africa or muslim countries.
When you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.
If you're discussing Europe, that's not exactly true. Normal people generally married from 17-27 and even nobles limited the earliest age of marriage to 14.

Women weren't kept except by nobles and there was no advantage to marrying a young girl.
 
There sure are a lot of people trying to put words into my mouth with malicious intent, but let me say this plain.
People know deep down that if they talk to a grandmother who married when she was 13 years old to a man in his 20s (or a 14 year old for that matter. I know a family whose grandfather and grandmother were married together at 14 and 16 respectively and were happily married till death did them part) and they 're still married when they're 70 and 80 and they tell her "you were abused! your husband is a pedophile! a child molester!" then the vast majority of the time they're being ridiculous and absurd.

There's obviously a big difference between marrying a child and cherishing her throughout her adult life, as happened before the modern age quite commonly, and simply using a child for sexual gratification like leftist pedophle demons do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70AArSfwTLw&t=1s
In this video the philosopher Derrick Jensen explains how leftwing philosophy's desire to dissolve social rules and boundaries which they see as inherently oppressive leads to them also wanting to dissolve the boundaries between adults and children and sex and fornication and quotes leading leftwing authors to show how this is ingrained into the founding documents of the leftwing field of "queer theory".
 
child marriage was a semi-regular occurrence in the whole world for much of human history, not just in africa or muslim countries.
When you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.
When you defend child marriage you only make an ass of yourself
 
child marriage was a semi-regular occurrence in the whole world for much of human history, not just in africa or muslim countries.
When you assume, you make an ass out of you and me.
oh boy we've never heard this one before

the average marriage age for both sexes in medieval europe was mid to late 20s

"child marriage" was an aristocracy thing, and not because adult male nobles couldn't resist 12 year old girls. it was to establish and strengthen alliances and for property claims. most of the time the marriage wasnt consummated until 3-4 years later, if the bride was 12. and an actual marriage instead of just a betrothal when the female was 12 or something was very rare

the average marriage age in ancient rome for women was mid to late teens, for men late 20s

ancient greece, average for women was 14 to 17, in some places like sparta it was 18 to 20. for men it was around 30

there were economic factors that pushed the marriage age younger for women and older for men in all of these eras, not sexual ones

as the middle class grew in a society, and this happened globally, more families were able to financially support daughters remaining in their parents' household longer, so the pressure for women to marry in their mid teens lessened

societies, except truly socially backwards ones like in africa and many islamic areas, did not think marrying what they considered children as being okay. what they considered a child was different from what we consider a child. the difference between back then and today was usually not a large one either, childhood was considered to end 2-3 years earlier then than now at most

why did i spend time on this post idk
 
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i assume your country is brown
i assume his country is blacker than the darkest african jungle nigger who thinks rainforest canopy is literally the sky
I think this slightly on the late side and at the very least varied by region. In medieval Italy for example women were expected to be married before 22
i dont care what you think. italy the average medieval marriage age skews younger for females because the rural average was younger than the rural average in most medieval countries (18 instead of mid 20s). medieval italian urban average for females was still mid 20s
 
I think some of you owe me an apology for calling me brown.
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i assume his country is blacker than the darkest african jungle nigger who thinks rainforest canopy is literally the sky

i dont care what you think. italy the average medieval marriage age skews younger for females because the rural average was younger than the rural average in most medieval countries (18 instead of mid 20s). medieval italian urban average for females was still mid 20s
You might not care what I think but you're still conceding that I'm correct that the average age of first marriage in medieval Europe varied by region.
None of what you said refutes the fact that child marriage was semi regular btw, i.e. not a rarity nor unheard of nor considered beyond the pale.
cope and sneeve.
 
I think this slightly on the late side and at the very least varied by region. In medieval Italy for example women were expected to be married before 22
I don't know why you're splitting hairs on a point like this. Your claim of child marriages being more common in European countries in the "le past"TM is retarded when you say it was way more common and it wasn't just the filthy unwashed browns that wanted to marry and fuck kids, but when people rightfully say that you're retarded for having this position, and say that it was mostly used for political purposes among the upper crust, and even then, really wasn't that common, you then backpeddle and say, "well it varied by region". Who gives a fuck? how much are you going to circumcise the mosquito of this point? Like your only proof you've used I've seen is some news article and a youtube video that has nothing to do with your point that just "own the libs".
The way you word things doesn't help your cause either, idk if you're brown, or white, or purple, but I'm assuming you're ESL because when you say things like "a man in his 20s cherishing a young girl" that's fucking creepy, and makes me think this is a retarded justification for you wanting to marry a 13-year-old.
 
You might not care what I think but you're still conceding that I'm correct that the average age of first marriage in medieval Europe varied by region.



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Observe the fascinating creature known as the Offended Muslim. It thrives in A&N and Mass Debates, where it proudly displays opinions that could startle even the most based of moderators.


Watch closely. When challenged, the muslim responds with its trademark defense mechanism, "I live in a white country".


Its diet consists entirely of defending child dating adults and the misinterpreted statistics of child marriages, which it regurgitates with remarkable confidence.


Now, notice how it senses contradiction… yes, there it is! The muslim puffs up, types furiously, and insists that it’s simply ‘'The age of consent laws are varying in different countries, back in Europe, child marriage was a lot more common." Truly, nature has never crafted an animal more immune to self-awareness.


As the sun sets over this digital savanna, the Offended Muslim slinks away to rest. But fear not, dear reader. At dawn, it will return once more, refreshed and ready to call you a pedophile.
 
You might not care what I think but you're still conceding that I'm correct that the average age of first marriage in medieval Europe varied by region.
None of what you said refutes the fact that child marriage was semi regular btw, i.e. not a rarity nor unheard of nor considered beyond the pale.
cope and sneeve.
i never disagreed that the average age of marriage varied geographically

i correctly disagreed that it varied to the degree that marriage at 12-16 was happening even semi-regularly. it wasnt as the statistics show. significant proportions of women in western and central europe remained unmarried into their 30s as well, in some countries a third of the female population had never been married into their 30s, and not just because nuns

it was not semi regular, it was rare, and mostly took the form of betrothal for several years then marriage and consummation, or, even more rarely, marriage with consummation being put off for several years
 
I'm assuming you're ESL
I'm not ESL, you're just accustomed to simplified, low IQ prose.
Your claim of child marriages being more common in European countries in the "le past"TM is retarded when you say it was way more common and it wasn't just the filthy unwashed browns that wanted to marry and fuck kids, but when people rightfully say that you're retarded for having this position, and say that it was mostly used for political purposes among the upper crust, and even then, really wasn't that common, you then backpeddle and say, "well it varied by region".
The grammar in this sentence is too garbled for me to to want to guess what point you're trying to make.
Whatever it is you're trying to say, I remain correct when I say that historical child (as in minor, below the age of 18) marriages were not a rarity nor considered beyond the pale.

i never disagreed that the average age of marriage varied geographically

i correctly disagreed that it varied to the degree that marriage at 12-16 was happening even semi-regularly. it wasnt as the statistics show. significant proportions of women in western and central europe remained unmarried into their 30s as well, in some countries a third of the female population had never been married into their 30s, and not just because nuns

it was not semi regular, it was rare, and mostly took the form of betrothal for several years then marriage and consummation, or, even more rarely, marriage with consummation being put off for several years
"In the 15th century, the average Italian bride was 18 and married a groom 10–12 years her senior."
If the average age was 18 then at least half got married before 18 ,aka while they minors or "children" by modern standards.
Brother, come on, stop reaching.
How does it make sense to call it rare when medieval marriage laws explicitly allowed it and in some countries it was basically normal?

Obviously a minority of girls got married before 18 but it was not an uncommon event nor unheard of.
 
I'm not ESL, you're just accustomed to simplified, low IQ prose.

The grammar in this sentence is too garbled for me to to want to guess what point you're trying to make.
Whatever it is you're trying to say, I remain correct when I say that historical child (as in minor, below the age of 18) marriages were not a rarity nor considered beyond the pale.
LMAO :story: "Nooo stalker child, I am not an ESL sperg that can't be persuasive, you're just low IQ stalker child :tomlinson:
I'm saying you're a sped and I think you want to fuck and marry a 13-year-old, and for whatever reason you decided to let everyone know that information on a public forum.
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Is that easy enough for you to understand, faggot?
 
"In the 15th century, the average Italian bride was 18 and married a groom 10–12 years her senior."
If the average age was 15 then at least half got married before 18 ,aka while they minors or "children" by modern standards.
Brother, come on, stop reaching.
How does it make sense to call it rare when medieval marriage laws explicitly allowed it and in some countries it was basically normal?

Obviously a minority of girls got married before 18 but it was not an uncommon event nor unheard of.
you said italy was an outlier, now italy is representative of europe. you're stupid and bad at this, and you're going to get banned the next time null checks reports and gets annoyed that you are piling them up. keep wasting your time, or not, it doesnt matter bye
 
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