US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Justsomecicada said:
that’s literally the point of the essay. Playing out a worst case scenario. At most he says, if the stars aligned and everything went wrong this COULD happen. Not that it will


It’s strange that the place most likely to have a when the music stops scenario isn’t even America. One example he he mention in the essay itself is France or Germany. So I could picture it if they ever try remigration

Bracken was a navy seal who was deployed to Bosnia so that’s why he has a pre occupation with this stuff. Idk I believe what he has to say
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I think if something like this happens anywhere, it’s gonna be in Britain. The migrants there get an unprecedented level of gibs, the state is broke, and there are millions of jihadis. Plus the native citizenry is (mostly) disarmed.
 
mlanguishi said:
It's hard to compare almost 200 years ago, but yeah, they were all democrats more or less. The 'Republican party' had just gotten started. Somewhere around the 50s-60s the dems decided to go opposite of how they used to be, at least on race.. Like the famous LBJ quote and all. It's hard to compare the modern democrat party to even 90s ones. I'd say the 'modern hard crazy left' dems starts mid W and solidified with obama and been on the crazy train worse and worse since.

ETA saw some Fuentes talk above. One thing I def noticed is since Kirk and he said 'it's nuts to think Jews did it' he's been more or less out of all news that I've seen.
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The way I see it is the Democrat party has always been the same with their same beliefs but they had different strategies for how to portray themselves and their beliefs to the public depending on the era. The Democrats of the 70s wanted to be portrayed as pacifists because they thought that's what people would vote for, they were mostly wrong. While the Dems would eventually get Jimmy Carter into office who was a very peaceful President despite his faults, the Democrat base was bombing federal governments properties which for many would have shattered the illusion that Democrats were pacifists.

After Carter the Democrats struggled to ever win elections, the Dems of the 90s got tired of losing so they stopped trying to be pacifists with Bill Clinton and lo and behold Clinton won the Presidential election of 92. A good thing to remember about Bill Clinton is that he wasn't much different from Obama in terms of strategy, he made lots of very reasonable promises during his campaign but he pretty much dropped all of that after he actually won the election, he wanted to do more progressive things in office than he let on during his campaign, he was a liar. Thankfully Newt Gingrich and the Republicans would take the House in the midterms and this would hold Bill Clinton at bay.

Say what you want about Gingrich, he's kind of a neocon and that's annoying but he did a great service to this country keeping Bill Clinton on a leash in the 90s, If Newt and the Republicans hadn't taken the House in 1995 then things would be very different.
 
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bookers said:
The difference between vp pence and vp vance is a fucking chasm that stretches across galaxies.
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It's a shame that the Dems lack the self-reflection to ever acknowledge that stealing the election in 2020 is possibly the biggest political self-own of the modern day. Honestly I'm curious who would be President today had Trump gotten his second term in 2020.
 
Pascal's Wagie said:
Sometimes I feel like I'm alienating myself for not liking country, but then shit like this happens time and time again. A hicklib makes a music career off the attention and money of a lot listeners they'd be willing to betray—and often do when they say something like this. But far too often is it that musicians with a spine are too niche.
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pop country has been pop music for decades
 
Pascal's Wagie said:
Sometimes I feel like I'm alienating myself for not liking country, but then shit like this happens time and time again. A hicklib makes a music career off the attention and money of a lot listeners they'd be willing to betray—and often do when they say something like this. But far too often is it that musicians with a spine are too niche.
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I'm going to be honest, I just usually listen to the Best of Blondie when I'm driving. I don't care what Debbie Harry thinks or anything I just like the bands music
 
ThisIsGonnaBeGood said:
Read Guns of the South if you haven't.
It's an alternate history novel centering around apartheid-supporting South Africans time traveling to the past to help the South win the war only for Lee and the South to decide to outlaw slavery anyway since they shockingly weren't all evil racists.
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oooh thank you I love civil war alternate history, I just finished bring the jubilee recently

 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I think he's staying in power because he gets better healthcare coverage than if he retired. Dying is expensive. Also, as much as McConnell pisses people off, he has been an important Republican in the 21st century. He helped block Merrick Garland from the Supreme Court and voted for all of Trump's Supreme Court picks. For these things, we should be at least a little grateful to the bastard.
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Eh, the guy has been a complete Trump hater for this term, has tried to thwart Trump's agenda multiple times. The sooner he leaves, the better.
 
I will say @BullfrogBill that is mostly correct, Clinton promised not that much but got lucky to come after a fairly harmless but really a 'wimp' a HW Bush that lied about taxes. Clinton got lucky with the tech boom that started in the early to mid 90s where anyone that could program a 'Hello me" in BASIC could get a $40k a year job too.

But he did do one thing that lasted, the assault weapons ban. That cost them a lot. Newt didn't even put up too much of a fight on that. That was a weird time when an obvious 2nd violation about cosmetics of guns was allowed and nobody, not even the NRA, bothered to sue over it because losing would mean all gun bans would be precedent The GOP did get a 10 year sunset, which turned out to work well.. The AWB led to smaller, more powerful pistols and the spread of CCW from FL to most states and now permitless in a majority.

Clinton also had a pretty hands off approach to tech companies, so they did boom. Buttttttt, by the end he started hitting Microsoft which directly led to the murky early 2000's .dot com bubble. And he looked the other way while islamics planned and setup 9/11.

It's hard to say how much the 'Contract with America' of Newt helped overall. It certainly did, and also AM radio at the time and never underestimate how much Rush Limbaugh was powerful in gathering conservative momentum. You'd think by now there's be history books on the 90s, but history books are mostly written by the left and in end, it was a bad look for them. even though they still called Bill 'Big Dog' in the left for a long time after. Hillary fucked all his legacy up, rightfully so.

CA's trying another big stupid ban on Glocks that'll get beat down, hopefully even by the 5th circuit.
 
Turkey Beef said:
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Blows my mind that people in California are fine with subsidizing illegals full on like this. I don't understand how these politicians remain in power without cheating.
not william stenchever said:
I more wonder what was up with my dad wanting me to become a journalist or even worse join the CIA. I am not retarded enough to welcome in either profession.
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Or maybe you're retarded enough? :tomgirl:
Stupor Mario said:
Eh, the guy has been a complete Trump hater for this term, has tried to thwart Trump's agenda multiple times. The sooner he leaves, the better.
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I don't disagree with people's contempt for McConnell, but he got us a majority conservative Supreme Court. That counts for something in my view.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I'm probably one of the only posters here who thinks the Confederate worship by conservatives is fucking stupid. I don't think we should remove statues and change the names of stuff, since that's commie-style erasure and does nothing but ignore our country's history. That said, it's absolutely wild to me that people like Robert Gould Shaw are ignored while Braxton Bragg got a military base named after him.
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People have been programmed by Democrats in ways they don't even know they were. The Democrats programmed people to believe that anything racist or evil in history was the work of Republicans, and a lot of people believed this and took it to heart so now when people hear about the Confederates they immediately think of them as Republicans, that and of course the fact that they were in the south at the time and Republicans were in the north. The more you read about the confederates though the more you understand that the Confederates were filthy Democrats and they stood for all the same shit the filthy Democrats today stood for.

The biggest way to get past the Democrat social programming that everyone has been subjected to all their lives is to forget everything you were taught in school and restart you history education from scratch yourself. Just read as much shit as possible. I remember being taught by my history teacher in school that "achshully the Democrats back in the Civil War were the same thing as Republicans and the Republicans were the same thing as the Democrats today, the parties agreed to swap the names of their party, yeah there was one day where the parties one day where they just swapped their names..." it was all total bullshit, literal propaganda and it makes me sick that schools are like that in America and that I had to sit though all of that programming for my entire childhood. It's disgusting.

I'm not Mr. History Teacher or Glenn Beck over here by any means but I do try to learn and understand as much about History as I can and have time for, the moment I read about shit by myself with my own head did I see for myself that these fucking Confederates are just Democrats lmao there was no "name swapping."
 
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