US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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For more on Israel read "rise and kill first"
Rise and kill first is good but it focuses too much on Mossad missions when they are primarily a side thing, for basic literacy of the conflict Benny Morris's 1948 is much better, especially when combined with Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East by Michael Oren.

Now that we generally understand the "enlightenment" elite has always had proto-communist elements
How do you explain the latent proto communism of the Anabaptist cult that took over Munster? They were pre Enlightenment and were the opposite of the elite.
 
How do you explain the latent proto communism of the Anabaptist cult that took over Munster? They were pre Enlightenment and were the opposite of the elite.
What point are you trying to make here?. The idea of communalism to the point of not having private property kinda just shows up again and again at different history. It’s very easy to explain, a random cult in a monkeys with type writers moment invented a economic system remarkably similar to Marxian socialism

Marxian socialism and the Munster anabaptists had different origins they just happen to come to the same in conclusion on the issue of private property.

It’s better to call it quasi communism then proto communism if you want to get technical because they just happened to arrive at the same conclusion, they were btfo so bad none of their ideas went on to actually influence enlightenment thinking.

Socialism and not just Marxian socialism require modernism for it to have any coherency

The Munster anabaptists and modern communal anabaptists like hutterites come to the same conclusion as the Marxian socialists to a large extent, but from a pre modern angle.
 
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What are your favourite/most looked back upon political or history books? I admit, this question is simply to gain a read-list, as I'm newer to political and history books as a whole. Currently reading Frank Dikotter's "The Cultural Revolution: A People's History 1962 - 1976", and have Andy Ngo's "Unmasked" ordered.
Robert Conquest's The Great Terror: Stalin's Purge of the Thirties
Ulysses S Grant's Personal Memoirs
William Shirer's Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

Apologists for Stalin and Hitler insist that none of the events in the first and third books actually happened; the sources were all capitalist or Jewish forgeries, respectively.
 
Out of curiosity, for the book-readers here (since they're being mentioned)

What are your favourite/most looked back upon political or history books? I admit, this question is simply to gain a read-list, as I'm newer to political and history books as a whole. Currently reading Frank Dikotter's "The Cultural Revolution: A People's History 1962 - 1976", and have Andy Ngo's "Unmasked" ordered.

I remember posting about how Antifa reminds me of the Red Guard a few weeks ago -- and my, such a statement proves true weeks later. At the very least, our current day commies are being dealt with, even if slooooooowly... Little did I know our own politicians -- Jay Jones -- would engage in the behavior or psychopath commies, but that's what I get for having expectations for the lefties.
I really enjoyed “American Caesar” by William Manchester. A fairly balanced view on MacArthur, who I find to be a very intriguing character. Writing is excellent as well.

Oh and Tom Clancy although idk if he counts. I live for that 80s techno thriller shit
 
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Why do I say now is arguably worse than either of those times? Short term, they were both much worse, long term, the place we're in is disastrous. Completely broken congressional system, concentration of power into few hands, functionally unlimited capital donation in politics, a hereditary class of rich people separate from commoners, disproportional representation in voting, an inability to create new political movements that aren't arms of the established political class, and to top it all off, a highly polarized, emotional political landscape where people view the opposition as the devil, and their leader as their country's savior, if not a literal messiah.
Out of curiosity, why do you think the congressional system is broken and that voting has disproportional representation?
 
Manufacturing Consent
Is a great book, very eye opening. Along the same lines I'd say Naomi Klein's Fences and Windows. Noam not liking Trump was a given, but the level TDS is pathetic. You can see someone escape the standard political protocol you criticize, to some large degree an anti-war guy and see him be elected and atleast be like "well played", but no.

On of my favorite collections of essays is Theodore Dalrymple's Our Culture, What's Left: The Mandarin and the Masses. Truly great work.
 
I don’t know about the latter, but Congress is hilariously corrupt and completely ineffective. There’s a reason they have something like a 15% approval rating.
Congress has a bad reputation which it in many ways, deserves, it's just that in this particular context I find the use of the terms "broken congressional system" and "disproportional proportions in voting" to be an intriguing use of phrasing.
 
Yes, yes, we know, "it didn't all get fixed instantly in one single thing so therefore this is bad and nothing ever happens," it's never enough, blah blah blah.
I just said I was waiting for results before I got excited, drama queen.
 
Noam not liking Trump was a given, but the level TDS is pathetic. You can see someone escape the standard political protocol you criticize, to some large degree an anti-war guy and see him be elected and atleast be like "well played", but no.
I used to really respect Chomsky, but when I heard him say that people who don't want the COVID vax need to be isolated from society, I lost a lot of that respect. How does a guy who wrote the books on propaganda not see propaganda?
 
Sorry, didn't think it had to be said really, Trump. He's a charismatic figure with a giant number of supporters, many of whom downright worship him, and take his every word unquestioningly. Some of his supporters in no exaggeration, ascribe divine meaning to his presidency and movement.
10 years ago, the average American hated all politicians, now a large chunk of them downright worship one.

This will probably earn me no friends, but I am not a Trump supporter by any stretch of the imagination, and I do not see him, his administration, or his tenures as president as productive, competent, or successful. Furthermore, he constantly plays on his supporter's fears of a changing world and a changing country (This is not to say I am a progressive, I am not), fears of crime, fears of conspiracy, and often blends in the faith in Christ many of his supporters possess to lend credence to his movement. (This is not to demean Christianity either, but the misuse of religion by demagogues.)

We live in a time and place where people are depressed, angry, fed up, tired, and alone, and Trump has rolled in to fill this void in satisfaction for millions of Americans, but I do not think that he is a positive influence on our country or our people.
Who would you prefer be in charge of the country instead?
 
Pope Leo XIV in a new letter to Catholic Charities USA: Migrants are "living witnesses of hope" with an "intrinsic human dignity" who should be "invited to participate fully in community life."
Tradcaths btfo yet again, another Protestant W. Just don't look at the mainline churches.
 
Pants riding lower, like around your hips, is actually a more modern thing. Your trousers going up to your navel was more or less standard practice for hundreds of years here in the west.
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I really don't understand why men stopped wearing pants around their actual waist. I started doing it a few years ago and it's considerably more comfortable than wearing them around my hips.
 
If you want to understand a country's culture and history, you also need to read their literature. There was a period of time where I was living in the US but I couldn't work so I spent my time reading American works to try to understand the country better.

In the space of a few months I read:

American Standard Version of the Bible
The Federalist Papers
The Constitution

After that, I read Huck Finn/Tom Sawyer, Moby Dick, To Kill a Mockingbird, The Great Gatsby, Catch 22, Gravity's Rainbow, Infinite Jest, and tons of other books that I forget the name of. Strangely, I found American Gods to be very helpful despite it not being written by an American.
For novels I'd add: do androids dream of electric sheep & man in high castle & ubik by Philip k dick, the works of Robert frost, the works of Emily Dickenson, bluebird and Do It and post office by Charles bukowski, blood meridian by Cormac McCarthy, a ballad of a sad cafe by Carson Mccullers, For Whom The Bell Tolls by Hemmingway, the time machine and war of the worlds by hg wells, the raven & tell tale heart & annebellee by edgar poe, of mice and men by Steinbeck, all of Conan by Robert e Howard, Wheel of Time (especially the first 3) by Robert Jordan, the works of Lovecraft, dune by Frank Herbert, foundation by Issac Asimov (don't skip the prequels they're really good), dying earth by jack Vance and fear and loathing in los Vegas by hunter s Thompson. Catcher in the rye by JD Salinger. As I lay dying by Faulkner.

There are many others that are highly influential from primarily the UK and of course the bible, but none of these were written in America. Don't @ me Mormons.
 
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Remember, this scroungy little fuck, and others like him who repeatedly incite, excuse and glorify left wing political violence up to and including murder would gleefully have your life destroyed, unemployed, deplatformed and debanked for saying the "nigger" word once.
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@StephenMiller you know what to do 🤗
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Oh it's that book. The one that the current Attorney General of Minnesota promoted.

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How do you explain the latent proto communism of the Anabaptist cult that took over Munster? They were pre Enlightenment and were the opposite of the elite.
The effects of having a monistic epistemology. If in the dialectic of Universals vs Particulars Universals are more important then they will remove all distinctions and make everything the same. That is what communism is. You can see this in Plato's own republic. The government of the republic is communism.
 
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