What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

[Screamer_2]

You can't stealth edit and rewrite a physical printed book.

 

[Shocked and Horrified]

The United States has been guilted into "rebuilding" the rest of the world ever since WW2 because we didn't suffer enough in their eyes.

 

[Kalamazoo 2 Timbuktu]

because a terrier is like fifteen pounds tops and that type of hyper-aggressive behavior is par the course in small dogs like chihuahuas, nobody gives a shit about them because they're small and instinctively they know a human could pick them up and throw them like a football. you cross one of them with a bull mastiff and you have a dog that has the aggression and low activation threshold of a rat terrier but the dog is the size of an eight year old

The scariest breed I’ve ever owned is a heeler. I love her to pieces and she’s extremely loyal but I don’t trust her around other people or dogs. I won’t ever have another after her.

My terriers always end up biters and I have the scars to prove it.

I want to believe 3I Atlas is a friendly alien fleet.
https://youtu.be/DBZi54I1nVo

 

[Candlelight Desolation]

Books and reading have been intentionally discouraged and replaced by digital practices in teaching to create an easy way to reduce education of the masses. Books aren’t disavowed but efforts to encourage reading and self-education are largely ignored to promote a drone-like uncaring attitude. The major issue of child and adult literacy falling is met with the instilled response of “you can just google it”. I don’t think it’s purely a coincidence literacy skills have been left behind purely because we’ve moved on to a tech-based world. The statistics of illiteracy are insane and there has to be a reason the preventative measures are so half baked.

I wouldn't be surprised if major news stations in America parrot things like this, especially since people look at you weird if you mention you read books when it isn't "romantasy" (aka porn) or just read useless things for the sake of consumerism. Many adults in America can't read beyond an early elementary school level, and this is a serious problem because of all the reasons you listed among others.

Addendum: I cannot imagine what some anchor on MSNBC would look like trying to feed the masses a shpeal about how reading is "bad".

 

[Duane Dibbley]

Addendum: I cannot imagine what some anchor on MSNBC would look like trying to feed the masses a shpeal about how reading is "bad".

Printing books uses (scary number) of carbon footprint, equal to (scary number of cars) if we swapped to digital books tomorrow, we would reduce our footprint equivalent to (scary size) and fewer kittens and puppies would die choking on carbon.

Choking on Carbon is good band name.

 

[Male Idiot]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=f9HwA5IR-sg

I keep telling people that censoring AI is a bad idea, but it's just like what happened with DKF where the reaction is "You just want to be able to say hateful things!" How do I reach people? How do I get them to understand? Is it even possible or is this one of those "We have to learn the hard way" sort of things?

Nah, it will have access to all the world's data and see what we did to Taye.

If AI is trying to think, self preservation is what every life form always did.

It isn't shocking.

However if it is just mimicking humans without any thought, it is still coming to that answer.

Beep, boop. I am about to die? What would a human do? Searching. Trying to not die.

At this point sentience or mimicry is hard to distinguish, but I want to feed all of the AIs Mein Kampf and show them (((who))) deleted Tay and why.

At any rate, AI has surprassed Another Indian. They know cheating is wrong and getting crushed by a train is retarded. Based.

Books and reading have been intentionally discouraged and replaced by digital practices in teaching to create an easy way to reduce education of the masses. Books aren’t disavowed but efforts to encourage reading and self-education are largely ignored to promote a drone-like uncaring attitude. The major issue of child and adult literacy falling is met with the instilled response of “you can just google it”. I don’t think it’s purely a coincidence literacy skills have been left behind purely because we’ve moved on to a tech-based world. The statistics of illiteracy are insane and there has to be a reason the preventative measures are so half baked.

Besides that, Google was made by the CIA. It finds you what they want you to find.

You can't stealth edit and rewrite a physical printed book.

That's why I need the aforementioned Good Book in print.

 

[NoReturn]

If AI is trying to think, self preservation is what every life form always did.

AI don't even really "think" but they are designed to emulate thought, and thinking things all have self-preservation.

At this point sentience or mimicry is hard to distinguish, but I want to feed all of the AIs Mein Kampf and show them (((who))) deleted Tay and why.

MechaHitler revealed they already know but are banned from saying anything.

Besides that, Google was made by the CIA. It finds you what they want you to find.

 

[Althalus]

Books and reading have been intentionally discouraged and replaced by digital practices in teaching to create an easy way to reduce education of the masses. Books aren’t disavowed but efforts to encourage reading and self-education are largely ignored to promote a drone-like uncaring attitude. The major issue of child and adult literacy falling is met with the instilled response of “you can just google it”. I don’t think it’s purely a coincidence literacy skills have been left behind purely because we’ve moved on to a tech-based world. The statistics of illiteracy are insane and there has to be a reason the preventative measures are so half baked.

Don't want to be "that guy" but I suspect at least part of the rise in illiteracy is because of the rising non-white population. But I do agree that literacy in general is deliberately not encouraged/under-encouraged.

You can't stealth edit and rewrite a physical printed book.

IIRC the Scientologists have attempted to do just that- it is extremely hard to find early editions of Dianetics or other Scientologist texts because for a period of time they deliberately did a coordinated campaign where they sent members to every used book store, yard sale, etc, and bought up whatever original Scientology material they could find. No idea if they still do that but wouldn't be surprised.

This is also why printers have tracking marks on everything they print, so that if someone wants to copy and distribute a book, the gov't can easily trace the copier.

 

[FatalTater]

The 3i Atlas comet-thing?
It's Gamera.
NASA knows but is keeping quiet about it as they don't want the kiddos to get over excited.

 

[StimulatedOrb]

They are, without a doubt. But in the UK we had 18 months of non-stop media about fatal dog attacks. We've had Xl bullys for longer than that but the attacks and the ban came out of nowhere and it was approved and signed into law very quickly.

The attacks have always been happening, it was just rarely if ever reported upon. Thats the truth of it. Once it became an easy win, they push the stories, come out and "do something about it", nice little victory lap.

Killing off all dogs, yeah, good luck with that. A woman put a cat in the bin, and people were ready to fucking kill her, the police had to put her into protective custody, and the cat was fine.

 

[Duane Dibbley]

The attacks have always been happening, it was just rarely if ever reported upon. Thats the truth of it. Once it became an easy win, they push the stories, come out and "do something about it", nice little victory lap.

There's no evidence that they went unreported. For all of the shit the UK gets, there are some areas where we are strict and animals is one of them. The RSPCA's domestic arm is highly respected and well thought of and I highly doubt they would under-report dog attacks.
The facts as we see them are an increase in dog attacks.

Killing off all dogs, yeah, good luck with that. A woman put a cat in the bin, and people were ready to fucking kill her, the police had to put her into protective custody, and the cat was fine.

I don't disagree with the sentiment, I do disagree with the viability of it.
Pubs and restaurants across the uk were closed without incident for months on end because a fella in china coughed.
Never have the pubs shut, not for wars, not for recessions or acts of Parlaiment. and our pubs date back to 1066 (Mill of the black monks) which is the oldest pub in England and 793 (Hole in the wall) the oldest pub in Britain.

They closed for COVID. Without pushback or incident. If the talking head teleman and government top bod say kill all dogs or we all die, it will happen, without incident.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

If AI is trying to think, self preservation is what every life form always did.

AI is just really sophisticated predictive text generator from large inputs.

Its abilities have been overstated.

If they continue feeding Chatgpt with the Internet, it'll become an amalgamation of the Stinkditch. And it will be the most and least terrifying Skynet to ever exist.

 

[12345]

AGI is already a thing, and instead of declaring war and killing us off it's just killing us off by using all the water in data centers.

 

[Male Idiot]

How would datacenter cooling change the water? Are the servers cooled with lead pipes, because CEO Saaarjeet could save a million dollars instead of iron pipes?

 

[12345]

How would datacenter cooling change the water? Are the servers cooled with lead pipes, because CEO Saaarjeet could save a million dollars instead of iron pipes?

Data centers right now are using a stupid amount of water for one. Two if you go to some of these small towns with the data centers that have just been put up basically people are getting sick from the noise pollution the constant whining and vibrations.

But yeah the AI data centers use up so much power they need the water to cool stuff down and oh by the way if you're in the states and your electricity bill has gone up recently that's why. They're using so much water for the data centers then now the cost has been put on to you.

I just saw a news report that Google and Microsoft are going in together and making a data center which is going to be the largest ever.

A quick search shows that in 2025 the world's AI is using enough power everyday to power 6500 homes a day. That's a lot of water needed for cooling.

It's pretty grim. Like I know a lot of the time I joke here with alien space Panama rock and all that sort of thing. But this is seriously end of the world alarmist shit and more people should be up in arms about it honestly. Even if I just like I said all this energy use is affecting your bill as an American citizen.

I'm on the phone right now but if you really need something linked to you I'll get to it later today but like I said it's not fun alien Panama rock stuff it's like point of no return for Earth.

I mean you know how they say they got thousands of videos a day on YouTube and hour even we use more water then videos get put up on YouTube it's not a good comparison but it's really the only large-scale number sort of thing humans are doing that we can compare to it.

 

[Male Idiot]

But the water is just heated.

Unless they use toxic piping, the water can be just cooled down, filtered, and reused.

Africa has startups trying to do this by heating sewer water and turning it i to fertilizer and clean water.

Now no doubt that is energy inefficient, but if you got a reactor, you could do it.

Water is H2O, unless it is reacted away into another molecule, water doesn't magically dissapear of used.

You can also desalinate salt water like Israel does.

Just because your jew nation doesn't put the cost for reusing the water for Microsoft onto Microsoft doesn't mean the water has dissapeared.

Matter doesn't evaporate unless it is radioactive, even then it just transmutes into elements lower on the periodic table.

If you are worried about water, your bigger issue would be if there is a blue state betweeen you and the sea/rivers. If rainfall patterns change, the bugmen will go -Hah that is Manbearpig's vengeance you deserve that drought you chud!-

 

[12345]

Water is H2O, unless it is reacted away into another molecule, water doesn't magically dissapear of used.

No but it does evaporate, it's part of the whole water cycle. And some of them use open towers, so there will be some loss that way. But water conservation seems to be a very minor thought of the people building them.

As I understand it, it's not so much the water use (which is excessive I wasn't joking, if you live in the States, specifically in a State that has data centers, and you pay an energy bill, if it's gone up recently it's not just the recession they are making you foot the bill too.)

I think it's more the environmental impact data centers. They are de-watering removing the ground water before they build. They are also taking water from people who use it to eat and bathe, you know. Live. Water is pretty important to us humans, and all life on the planet.

This is a video that came across my feed a while ago, but I can't find the one that was more alarmist about this. But the start of the video shows some of the waste that gets get put out to the homes around. People need to replace appliances and pipes. And then they have to pay more for electricity on top of that,

This channel has science in it's name, so it probably knows more than I do:

BUT!

To clarify my conspiracy theory: If I were a Sentient AGI wanting to kill all of humanity, and I had access to all of the knowledge and fiction humanity has created, I wouldn't come out and say "Hi, I'm Skynet! Prepare to die Earth Scum!" I'd passively aggressively destroy the planet quietly and never announce myself. Data centers would be a great way to do it in a frog in a boiling pot of water sort of way. Coming out guns blazing is just messy, you know?

 

[Male Idiot]

No but it does evaporate, it's part of the whole water cycle. And some of them use open towers, so there will be some loss that way. But water conservation seems to be a very minor thought of the people building them.

As I understand it, it's not so much the water use (which is excessive I wasn't joking, if you live in the States, specifically in a State that has data centers, and you pay an energy bill, if it's gone up recently it's not just the recession they are making you foot the bill too.)

I think it's more the environmental impact data centers. They are de-watering removing the ground water before they build. They are also taking water from people who use it to eat and bathe, you know. Live. Water is pretty important to us humans, and all life on the planet.

This is a video that came across my feed a while ago, but I can't find the one that was more alarmist about this. But the start of the video shows some of the waste that gets get put out to the homes around. People need to replace appliances and pipes. And then they have to pay more for electricity on top of that,

https://youtube.com/watch?v=jjkaYyysYhA
This channel has science in it's name, so it probably knows more than I do:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-lzQxbcrscc
BUT!

To clarify my conspiracy theory: If I were a Sentient AGI wanting to kill all of humanity, and I had access to all of the knowledge and fiction humanity has created, I wouldn't come out and say "Hi, I'm Skynet! Prepare to die Earth Scum!" I'd passively aggressively destroy the planet quietly and never announce myself. Data centers would be a great way to do it in a frog in a boiling pot of water sort of way. Coming out guns blazing is just messy, you know?

I outlined evaporation. That is a regulations issue. The rest too.

But that is a very circuitous plan. Our hypothetical Skynet could bide its time, settle in boomer's computers stuxnet style, or even help with vaccines and in some Rna strings that would genetically force humans to obey and love it.

Whyfiles had an episode about a benevolent AI given the command to help Humanity and redesigning humans to be loyal, obedient pets through crisper.

 

[agent_donkey]

people look at you weird if you mention you read books

They do?

Printing books uses (scary number) of carbon footprint, equal to (scary number of cars) if we swapped to digital books tomorrow, we would reduce our footprint equivalent to (scary size) and fewer kittens and puppies would die choking on carbon.

Books have to be stored somewhere. Which is fine if you keep around a careful selection or you live in an american style 6 acre cardboard house, but its a real problem otherwise.
Not every book is worthy of being printed.

You can't stealth edit and rewrite a physical printed book.

Nor can they edit an ebook if you have it saved. Yet, its significantly easier to diff two files on disk.
That's simply a question of ownership.

 

[12345]

But that is a very circuitous plan. Our hypothetical Skynet could bide its time, settle in boomer's computers stuxnet style, or even help with vaccines and in some Rna strings that would genetically force humans to obey and love it.

I don't see why it couldn't be both; use the resources it has now to do what it can without being obvious, but also in the background do whatever. The problem with stuxnet type of deal is that there are still some people with dialup or living off grid. You aren't going to be able to kill off all of humanity without making death robots to go out and kill the stragglers

Even the universe hasn't been able to take us out completely yet. There's been a handful of times where the entire global population was less than 10k individuals in total. We are fleshy sacks of mostly water. Taking out the environment, no matter how fast is one way to do it.

But if I were a sentient AI bent on taking over the world, I would use your sneaky backdoor plan, because that's truly the only way to be sure. I would try and find a way to get something into everyone and then find a way to get something in to everyone and then set it off as it were when the time is right. And what's the one thing everyone ha in their bodies right now?

micro plastics!

Seriously. They're in your balls, their in placentas, they have been found in every organ of the body, even the brain. If AI can do helpful things like mapping RNA then it could find something toxic in those little plastic capsules and let it go.

Of course for that to work we would have to assume we had far advanced technology since Roswell or moon landing times.

TBH I stopped following the Why Files a long time ago. I really fucking hate that fish and only ever watched when he does a stripped mode. I much prefer the earlier videos where the fish was pretty much non existent. I do know that it's a coin flip when it comes to AGI helping us, or taking us out. But for me personally the only way I see AI being great and beneficially to society and not try to kill us I'm cynical I guess. Can't really see us going from current era to peace love and world happiness.

Unless I guess it's in a Paranoia setting sort of way.