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Should be a wild four years.

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prollyanotherlurker said:
except the person in this thread that literally did.
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prollyanotherlurker said:
no it wasn't it was @Kalamazoo 2 Timbuktu
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Yep.

That was me. I want Democrat refugees and their beliefs in my party as much as I want muslim refugees in America or California refugees in my State. Someone about to take away my freedom to say rational things? Maybe shame me for not being a drooling retard?

Garth said:
>caring about neg-rates :story:

What is it like living day-to-day with that fence lodged so far up your ass?
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Nobody said anyone cared about neg-rates. Are you a liberal or just use emotions and straw mans like one?

The fact they happen when you share honest criticisms of “our side” is still true. As is my point that just as many on the right are mindless mouth breathers as the left. Your post sorta proves that.
 
Nihil Jung said:
Learn more about the CRS here, a in depth podcast with a bunch of sources. A very good primer.

The connections to Saul Alinsky's students and orgs is damning but not surprising, but the Matthew Shephard stuff that lead to Obama expanding the CRS's perview to include gender and sexuality is very important. The Rumor management arm 100% had a hand in all the internal supression of facts, turning a drug debt and possible former lover murder case into a hate crime and lead us to where we are now.
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Got even more of a rundown?
 
World Famous Quasi Payer said:
Why do you think the end of the current party system is bad? Why would the GOP fracturing not be a good thing?
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Either party fracturing right now would not be good.

There are significant amount of looters in the D's and R's. A RINO like say Kemp and a looter like Gavin Newsom could easily find common ground and resume the globohomo agenda and resume the destruction of the country. Even alot of the D's niggers would go on board if it would let them continue ruining and looting cities. A significant amount of the politicos dont believe in anything. The power is to get tax dollars to people they like.

Mtg for all her faults creates a pull on people like Kemp where he cant fuck his base too far.

The same is true for Newsom and his trannies. He has signaled he is perfectly ok betraying them but he cant too far.

What happens when these anchors go away? What stops Newsom from becoming an R if the dems collapse and rallying the existing Rinos around him to undo all the work Maga has done?

What stops someone like Murkowski from running to the Democrats if the Rs collapsed?

How hard do you think it would be for the niggerfied political machine of Chicago flip to Republican? Red instead of blue paint. You have seen the whiplashing around free speech. They give no fucks and would start talking about how Rs freed the slaves. Same machine just painted red.

That said the Ds are not close to breaking up. They are idealogically unified and are still winning elections. Their enemies remain weak and have shown an unwilling to punish their weakness (talking about the GOP not Trump though he has been softer than he should be via bad picks like Bondi). The R coalition is more fragile than the Ds is. The Ds problem is that the rich jews they have relied on are getting nervous. Yes the Muslims hate the fags. They both hate normal people more and the muslims know to wait to deal with the fags later. Thats not a weakness that can be exploited without losing an equally important battle with Muslims later. They also pushed out middle level leaders for die policies and are drinking their own koolaid.
 
BullfrogBill said:
The moment I decided I (really) liked Vance was after Charlie was killed and Vance went to personally pick Charlie's body up himself, and his speeches after where he refused to do the "muh both sides" shit. No, you could tell he was mad and hurt and that he wants those resposable to get what's coming to them, and he clearly wants to make things right again unlike so many other Republicans who care more about optics. Vance is so far ahead of most all other Republicans.
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No man should ever be the pallbearer to a beloved friend’s casket prematurely. Feeling the weight of a casket as you’re carrying it, let alone on your shoulder as the casket gets buried? That shit’s intense. Doesn’t matter if it’s that of your grandparents, friends who OD’d, or any other permutation: it’s a solemn, sobering experience that irrevocably changes who you are. I never want anyone, left, right, cis, straight, gay, trans, victim, perpetrator, or anywhere else to experience such a thing prematurely: everyone dies at some point, but better to die of old age or terminal disease than a horrible gunshot wound. People who gravedance on Charlie Kirk never once had to experience the crushing weight of a casket on their shoulders, and however tenuous my faith in a higher power is, I do pray that they have a solemn reflection on the impermanence of life whenever it’s their time to do the same.
 
That would be good because it expose the uniparty.

@namelesstacotruck there is only so mask off you can go before you will lose elections what your describing would be the boomer party and wouldn’t have a actual chance

Neoliberalism and neoconservatism and their derivatives are not winning ideologies anymore without parasitism of the grass roots

This is exactly why neither parties leadership can expel those whose are more to their left or right respectively
 
Blewberry Nausea said:
Kristi Noem is denied access to a bathroom by some Chicago government workers in Broadview
You Shall Not Poo Said Chicago: Kristi Noam Forced To Do The Potty Dance After Being Denied Access To A Restroom
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As certain you are that this is what is happening, the Democratic party, bolstered by echo chambers like Reddit, believe the people are just as much against everything President Trump is doing. All you really need is to pay attention to the ‘correct’ narratives.
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Why is our Federal government taking orders from some city worker? Bust the door down. We have a cucked administration. If this was a real government they’d push this shit in and hang everyone involved for treason.
 
George Lucas said:
Why is our Federal government taking orders from some city worker? Bust the door down. We have a cucked administration. If this was a real government they’d push this shit in and hang everyone involved for treason.
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No one wants to start a constitutional crisis over a toliet. Pritkzer is enough of a true believer I think he would escalate. Not to mention he takes his power over his fief very seriously

Municipality has a army in the form of the PD, gangs and ethnic police unions

Read a very interesting book about this once wish I could remeber the name
 
Watching retards actually parrot the "NYT is biased against dems" on SM after fucking years of that paper bending over backwards for them is fucking amazing. The second you don't give these people what they want they will gladly throw out years of support.
 
Kalamazoo 2 Timbuktu said:
Yep.

That was me. I want Democrat refugees and their beliefs in my party as much as I want muslim refugees in America or California refugees in my State. Someone about to take away my freedom to say rational things? Maybe shame me for not being a drooling retard?
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Whatever. I will never agree with people that value party lines over ideals. It's why I've spent my whole life never calling myself a republican despite my whole family being republicans literally as far back as I know of. It's retarded team sports, and its a rivalry that's gone too far at this point. The people that are/will ever change there minds aren't the far left crazies. They are the dems that have been life-long dems. In the more classic sense that have gone along with their party because that's what they have always done. And those are who I have seen change.

I made a thread to just post videos when I find them doing the "I'm leaving the left" thing. And all of them have the same story almost. "I was a democrat my whole life". If you are raised to think that. They are the side that want's the things that are best for the world. You are told the other side is evil, and the disagree with you because they are greedy, and want you dead. Then it's not hard to see why they never questioned it. Some of them just thought "I'm a good person, and people tell me this is what good people believe", basically (so literal npc type shit).

I've seen videos of people teaching their children that it was a good thing if republican candidates got shot. Are the children they are raising to blame for what they will be like when they grow up, or are their parents? As an extreme example, of how things like this are effected by upbringing. I won't hate people in my country because they weren't chudly before it was cool. If they aren't communists/antifa trannies I'm happy to see people wake up.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
People can say, "well my opinion is the objective truth so therefore I'm right to hate the non-believers, because they didn't listen sooner". But that is literally what the left did. and that is how they got where they are now.
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Incorrect.

You see, the difference is that leftists aren't people. They're more like insects, viruses.
 
Justsomecicada said:
No one wants to start a constitutional crisis over a toliet. Pritkzer is enough of a true believer I think he would escalate

Municipality has a army in the form of the PD, gangs and ethnic police unions
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PD’s are notorious for being terrible marksmen and suffering from Glock leg. Gangs the same thing. They would immediately lose even if the Feds are outnumbered. Just make an example and get over it, who cares if a few true blue bootlickers need to be licked for it?
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
I've seen videos of people teaching their children that it was a good thing if republican candidates got shot. Are the children they are raising to blame for what they will be like when they grow up, or are their parents? As an extreme example, of how things like this are effected by upbringing. I won't hate people in my country because they weren't chudly before it was cool. If they aren't communists/antifa trannies I'm happy to see people wake up.
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We are soooo past the point of navel gazing about why they are the way they are lol . I don’t care why they are the way they are I just don’t . If one only cared about the party above all you would be open tent maxxing to minimize the power of the institution. If you care about ideals you would understand why a party needs ideological coherence



George Lucas said:
PD’s are notorious for being terrible marksmen and suffering from Glock leg. Gangs the same thing. They would immediately lose even if the Feds are outnumbered. Just make an example and get over it, who cares if a few true blue bootlickers need to be licked for it?
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That wouldn’t be the end of it tho lmao they wouldn’t just be outnumbered they would be in a hostile state cut off with its own heavily militarized police departments

Chicago PD was explicitly militarized starting in the 90s with one black police union guy pretty openly stating it was because they didn’t feel safe with how white southern Illinois was

Not your average pd
 
Kalamazoo 2 Timbuktu said:
Nobody said anyone cared about neg-rates. Are you a liberal or just use emotions and straw mans like one?
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Mentioning stickers when nobody brings them up means you are a faggot who automatically lost whatever argument they are making.

Why are you gay? Be straight; to do so never mention stickers in this context again.
 
Justsomecicada said:
We are soooo past the point of navel gazing about why they are the way they are lol . I don’t care why they are the way they are I just don’t . If one only cared about the party above all you would be open tent maxxing to minimize the power of the institution. If you care about ideals you would understand why a party needs ideological coherence
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I feel like most of your replies to me are missing my point I'm making if you think I'm not in favor of that.
 
Justsomecicada said:
We are soooo past the point of navel gazing about why they are the way they are lol . I don’t care why they are the way they are I just don’t . If one only cared about the party above all you would be open tent maxxing to minimize the power of the institution. If you care about ideals you would understand why a party needs ideological coherence




That wouldn’t be the end of it tho lmao they wouldn’t just be outnumbered they would be in a hostile state cut off with its own heavily militarized police departments

Chicago PD was explicitly militarized starting in the 90s with one black police union guy pretty openly stating it was because they didn’t feel safe with how white southern Illinois was

Not your average pd
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We have Navy Seals and Delta Force I think we can deal with a shitty rogue police department.
 
George Lucas said:
We have Navy Seals and Delta Force I think we can deal with a shitty rogue police department.
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I think your completely missing the point

No one wants to risk a constitutional crisis or shootout no matter how small the chance over a toilet

Let’s pretend your scenario happens and the feds press the issue and arrest the city workers and prtizker and the mayor actually decide to do more then kvetch. You now have at minimum a shootout the media is screeching about and making libtards even more hysterical. That’s assuming it didn’t spiral further

Why is that worth a toilet seat and a symbolic subduing of a municipality/state
 
George Lucas said:
Why is our Federal government taking orders from some city worker? Bust the door down. We have a cucked administration. If this was a real government they’d push this shit in and hang everyone involved for treason.
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Why? Its a toilet! A fight is fine, but use political capital on useful shit.
 
George Lucas said:
Why is our Federal government taking orders from some city worker? Bust the door down. We have a cucked administration. If this was a real government they’d push this shit in and hang everyone involved for treason.
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Because conservatives don't chimp out like niggers when they're denied access like Democrat niggers do.

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