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Should be a wild four years.

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I talked with a family member earlier today. They said that the news is saying that statistics say that most of the country blames Republicans for the shut down.

People are wondering the Democrat aim in forcing this shut down, and I think it might just be that they've fallen for their own garbage propaganda and actually think that people are mad at the Republicans.

Fuck, I kinda hope that's true. If it is, it means the Democrats are truly dead men walking. And it what a hilarious death it would be.
 
This is false. There are 53 republican senators. The bill needed 60 yes votes to pass. Only 1 republican voted no. The dems, except for 3, voted no.
Correct, but also not exactly.

If the GOP truly wanted it passed they would have used Budget Reconciliation and it could have passed with 51 votes.

The more I read into this the more it seems like the GOP manufactured their own mess
 
Just saw all the Dem accounts on substack send out totally organic and not at all coordinated: “GOP OWNS THIS SHUTDOWN!” Articles.

Time to fire some bureaucrats I guess.
 
Correct, but also not exactly.

If the GOP truly wanted it passed they would have used Budget Reconciliation and it could have passed with 51 votes.

The more I read into this the more it seems like the GOP manufactured their own mess
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this is what schumer said about it.
basically "republicans can stop the shutdown by giving us everything we want".
sorry, but if you want things funded so badly then you should be open to negotiate.
if you're not willing to give anything up, that's on you.
 
I guess that by now in that alternate Harris in the White House timeline, instead of ICE raids there would be borders just as open -- if not more so -- than during the Biden years, with even more crime "cultural enrichment" then. And possibly an escalation of war abroad. Dunno what the effect the Charlie Kirk assassination would've had if it had happened then. Though I imagine that dangerhairs, soys, and "transgenders" would be very smug either way since the "right" candidate won then. And USAID would keep on going.

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I guess that by now in that alternate Harris in the White House timeline, instead of ICE raids there would be borders just as open -- if not more so -- than during the Biden years, with even more crime "cultural enrichment" then. And possibly an escalation of war abroad. Dunno what the effect the Charlie Kirk assassination would've had if it had happened then. Though I imagine that dangerhairs, soys, and "transgenders" would be very smug either way since the "right" candidate won then. And USAID would keep on going.
more like we would probably be like the UK right now if that timeline happened, with muslims and indians going to war with mexicans over jobs/religious texts and whos the baby daddy from all the excess "repopulation".
 
As fun as it would be to dismantle the CIA, I doubt Trump will ever do it. They'll start trying to kill him again if he does.
Trump can do other things, such as what McNamara did with the Defense Intelligence Agency.
When President John F. Kennedy took office, his secretary of defense, Robert McNamara, acted on the Joint Study Group’s recommendation. He ordered the Joint Chiefs of Staff to submit a concept for a single Defense Intelligence Agency that would integrate the military intelligence efforts of all Department of Defense elements. After months of study and deliberation with McNamara, the JCS submitted their plan.

The organization laid out by the JCS would report to the secretary of defense through the JCS as a unified body of military intelligence and counterintelligence entities.

The separate military services would no longer act as a loose confederation of independently operating groups. The new Defense Intelligence Agency would adopt the mission of managing the collection, processing, analysis and dissemination of military intelligence. Other objectives in the plan included more efficiently allocating scarce intelligence resources, and eliminating redundant facilities, organizations and tasks.

With some modifications, McNamara approved the concept given to him by the JCS, and established the Defense Intelligence Agency on Aug. 1, 1961, though it would not become officially operational until that fall.

McNamara selected Air Force Lt. Gen. Joseph Carroll to set up and lead the new agency. On Oct. 1, 1961, DIA began operations with a handful of employees in borrowed office space at the Pentagon.

Only a year later, in October 1962, the Agency faced what would become the gravest crisis of the Cold War when the Soviet Union secretly placed nuclear-capable ballistic missiles in Cuba. DIA’s analysts played a key role in the discovery of the missiles, noting that the placement of Soviet surface-to-air missile sites mirrored those around ballistic missile bases in the Soviet Union.

Together with the Air Force, they lobbied the National Security Council for renewed U-2 flights over Cuba. The next flight — one pass over the Pinar del Rio province on Oct. 14 — revealed the ballistic missiles to be precisely where DIA’s analysts thought they would be. For the remainder of the crisis, DIA supplied constant intelligence updates to the Joint Chiefs of Staff and McNamara. Months after the crisis subsided, DIA’s John Hughes went on national television to brief the Nation on the harrowing events of that October.

At the same time, the military services continued to transfer many intelligence functions and resources to DIA.

In late 1962, DIA established the Defense Intelligence School (known today as the National Defense Intelligence College). In early 1963, it activated a new Production Center at Arlington Hall Station in northern Virginia. In 1964, it established the Defense Attaché System to manage the far-flung military attachés around the world.

The Agency also added such functions as a Dissemination Center, a Scientific and Technical Intelligence Directorate, and it assumed the staff support functions of the J-2 (Intelligence), Joint Staff.

But the 1960s would be trying years for the Agency. The military services, concerned that DIA’s intelligence would not be responsive to their particular requirements, resisted DIA’s attempts to establish itself as DoD’s central military intelligence organization.

During the Vietnam War, DIA’s intelligence reporting on the strategic bombing of North Vietnam and the size of enemy ground forces was discounted by many in the services.

In 1968, DIA’s analysts, along with the rest of the Intelligence Community, failed to predict the Soviet Union’s invasion of Czechoslovakia.

Other foreign intelligence challenges, such as the growth of China’s nuclear program; the Six Day War between Egypt, Syria, Jordan, and Israel; and North Korea’s seizure of the intelligence vessel USS Pueblo, strained DIA’s ability to handle major issues — even as its efforts at organization and consolidation continued.

By the end of the decade, the Agency faced sustained calls for major reform — and even its outright dissolution.

Source: https://www.dia.mil/News-Features/The-DIA-60th-Anniversary/The-1960s/
It's my Layman understanding that the DIA was set up because Kennedy did not trust the CIA.

Trump is a businessman and the CIA is just a segment in the whole operation. Pour funding somewhere else and watch as your enemy's treasuries dry up.
 
i support the CIA. i just want them to go back to doing their original job of sabotaging foreign enemies.
like funding rebel groups in africa to shoot anyone who works for the chinese and things like that.
 
While I don't trust any government to handle a shutdown well, this one included, I'm rooting for something good to come out of these hard times. I do want actual Americans to get back what they've earned or are owed, but things like Medicare etc is like a tick that's become bigger than the cow. We can't have a robust social safety network anyway with such a severely low trust society infected with illegals and global opportunists.
 
There is a bit too much hype for me to believe anything really is gonna happen. Trump has done this the entire 2nd term. Talk big shit, do nothing and then like a day later pull some surprise out of his ass. All big announcements have ended like that.
 
WTF TRUMP?!?

“Some of Trump’s pet projects, like NASA’s Artemis moonshot program, will continue during the shutdown.”

Why the f is this expensive shitshow of wasted taxpayer money continuing?!

They’re baying billions of dollars for literally just flying by the moon. Space X could probably do it for a fraction of the cost.
 
The Right: Massive event honoring Charlie Kirk, celebrating the USA and praising Jesus Christ.

The Left: Massive event with trannies, degenerates and foreigners, blatantly praising Satan in the open.

If this is their strategy to win back the normies... Oh boy.

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this is what schumer said about it.
basically "republicans can stop the shutdown by giving us everything we want".
sorry, but if you want things funded so badly then you should be open to negotiate.
if you're not willing to give anything up, that's on you.
Count Jewcula should have his books deep dived on by a rabid ferret.
 
So, would this affect the faggots at that airport base who keep reddit alive?

Total reddit death would be amazing
Eglin AFB in Florida. The military isn't affected unless the shutdown continues past their next payday on October 15th. Even then they'll probably still get paid by using some accounting trickery.
 
This is late, but regarding Trump and Hegseths speech, it was a power trip. To call all the generals like that, its showing them that you will come, listen in-person to what the commander in chief has to say. It will annoy the right people and hopefully they self reign. I think people underestimate the value of something like this. Too many of them think they can't be fired or dismissed. Time to show them whos in charge.
Imagine how uncomfortable it must have been to be a fat general or admiral in that room...
 
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