US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Nice Stick said:
And immigration. The flood of foreign invaders is an attack on government institutions that's intended to destroy them by overwhelming them with insurmountable problems. Fake disability claims by Somalis en mass, paki truck drivers that cause mass casualty events on the highways, the tidal wave of Indian scams, and the destruction of economic stability by importing more immigrant workers than the number of jobs created.
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This isn't talked about enough. The stabbing videos are horrifying but the millions of soft pokes cause arguably more damage. It's amazing how much of western society was built not on incredibly inventions and great minds but on the average person not being a complete sack of garbage.
 
George Lucas said:
I hate to admit it, but if Hegseth was a woman he would be getting just as many calls to resign as Bondi gets. He gets a pass because he has Deus vult on his arms or whatever, but what has he actually accomplished?

I have to wonder how anyone can still hear after serving on that ship.
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Hegseth just read the fatasses, the broads who want the bar lowered, and the "dudes in dresses" the riot act.

And I quote "No more of that shit."

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kiwirevolving said:
>using U.S. cities as 'training grounds for our military'
police had enough target practicing on blacks and now it's the army's time or what? what is this nigga saying
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He's saying that we need to make the Antifa speds useful as punching bags and tackling dummies.
 
Sammich said:
Here's a little news blurb about the nigger shaving stuff.

https://www.military.com/daily-news...ely-limiting-shaving-waivers-goes-effect.html

it basically does away with the endless waivers, gives them a year to fix it, or they can get fucked. This is in line with what Hegseth was saying today. I am interested to see if the sikhs will still get the waiver for their beards, and the goofy head rag they wear. I hope they look into it, the military is about conforming to one standard, and people often forget that serving in the military is a privilege, not a right. You can get disqualified for many MANY reasons.
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How the fuck do the black trannies do it, then? Seems like classic "we jus built differen'" gaslighting as an excuse to be lazy.
kiwirevolving said:
>using U.S. cities as 'training grounds for our military'
police had enough target practicing on blacks and now it's the army's time or what? what is this nigga saying
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You know what Azov did to Donbas for the past 10 years prior to the war? Maybe something like that.
 
Alcoholism said:
Unless you're the vast majority of most major cities in the world and not anywhere near the coast.
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There's a bit of nuance to the question of battleships imo. China has most of their military along the coast, they would launch an invasion from the coast, all their shipyards and docks are on the coast.
Airplanes were the final say for a long time, but now their missiles are longer range than our fighters. This means that a carrier launching planes is already in missile range. So a big boat with big gun might come back into style. Something has to protect the carriers.
 
Hey Johnny Bravo said:
I at least give Fatzker credit for trying.
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He thinks he's Jefferson Davis, but the funny part about Illinois is that the moment Pritzker steps a toe over the line too give The Union justification too fall on him like a ton of bricks, every part of the State that is not Chicago is going too be right there helping too pile on.

On that note, with Three governors now talking like they are Confederate secessionists and the President of the United States talking like all of our land, OUR LAND, the land of the AMERICANS belongs to ALL OF US and not just some rebel crew who happens to be squatting on the land we love the best, I will now refer too the federal government as "The Union". Because that is what it is.

By the dark alchemy of history and Trumps own animalistic ability to exploit deep human emotions without truly understanding them, The Union of the American Civil War is waking up once again. Rally around the flag boys!

 
StudMccool said:
pretty sure the generals clapped, it was the admirals that were pissed someone showed trump these 2 figures
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LMAO the mental picture of them taking turns being in operational control of an individual ship


Just really wanna hammer how how ludicrous this is, we have nearly 100 more admirals than ships, the fuck are they doing all day?
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If you want a serious answer, they're mostly at the pentagon. Every military program has administrative leadership at the pentagon, but programs without at least an O7 (general/admiral) get screwed in budget and policy decisions. These programs are things such as civil engineering, various kinds of aircraft maintenance functions, underwater dive teams (UDT), explosive ordnance disposal, nuclear weapons maintenance, and many, many others.
 
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Breadbassket said:
At least one battleship should be kept around at all times in active service to be the naval equivalent of a A-10 Warthog, a destructive and epic piece of military equipment that can obliterate whatever its guns are pointed at and look great doing so but keep it away from anything that can actually pose a threat to its existence.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=1w3e7oslXFM
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I'm no military buff, but surely for bullying pirates and 3rd worlders, a battleship is the most economical way to do it safely right? Those shells can't be that expensive (on a military scale), maybe a few thousand a shot as compared to missiles that cost hundreds of thousands. For leveling an area with non-nuclear ordinance, having a battleship parked 20 miles off the coast with the battle fleet just shelling a pirate port to rubble seems like the way to go.

For near peers it's stupid for the most part, but like the A-10 it might not be too bad of an idea, since 75% of the Navy's job is handling pirates, uppity terrorists and cartels, and the other 25% is making sure every other country doesn't fuck around by promising they'll find out if they do. Plus they're just fucking cool, major PR showing off those walls of flame as guns so big you could crawl into the barrel shoot small cars at the enemy.
 
Nice Stick said:
If you want a serious answer, they're mostly at the pentagon. Every military program has administrative leadership at the pentagon, but programs without at least an O7 (general/admiral) get screwed in budget and policy decisions. These programs are things such as civil engineering, various kinds of aircraft maintenance functions, underwater dive teams (UDT), explosive ordnance disposal, nuclear weapons maintenance, and many, many others.
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Naw, Studs is on the verge of uncovering our secret south pole fleet that guards the ice wall and the hole into the inner-earth, the fleet keeping the bad reptilians away.
 
NSA said:
There's a bit of nuance to the question of battleships imo. China has most of their military along the coast, they would launch an invasion from the coast, all their shipyards and docks are on the coast.
Airplanes were the final say for a long time, but now their missiles are longer range than our fighters. This means that a carrier launching planes is already in missile range. So a big boat with big gun might come back into style. Something has to protect the carriers.
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The Navy's rail gun program was a total flop from everything I heard.

But, maybe we'll get lasers.

Point defence lasers for countering hypersonic missiles against the fleet, and big fuck off Space Battleship Yamato broadside lasers for melting anything visible from the coast.
 
Davis said:
I'm no military buff, but surely for bullying pirates and 3rd worlders, a battleship is the most economical way to do it safely right? Those shells can't be that expensive (on a military scale), maybe a few thousand a shot as compared to missiles that cost hundreds of thousands. For leveling an area with non-nuclear ordinance, having a battleship parked 20 miles off the coast with the battle fleet just shelling a pirate port to rubble seems like the way to go.

For near peers it's stupid for the most part, but like the A-10 it might not be too bad of an idea, since 75% of the Navy's job is handling pirates, uppity terrorists and cartels, and the other 25% is making sure every other country doesn't fuck around by promising they'll find out if they do. Plus they're just fucking cool, major PR showing off those walls of flame as guns so big you could crawl into the barrel shoot small cars at the enemy.
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During Vietnam we did run a couple Iowas and the last of our heavy gun cruisers, USS Newport News, off the coast for naval gunfire support. The North Vietnamese were not fans. The infrastructure to build ships like that is long gone though. What you really want would be something like a modernized Des Moines-Class. 8-10 shells per minute per barrel of 8" goodness, during development they found you could scale the autoloaders up to 10" at maximum. That would be like resurrecting the old Armored Cruiser concept, but that's going a bit too into the weeds of Naval autism for the thread.

Basically, if you're thinking about tackling China, you want to work with the N-square law, so more, smaller ships that do the job well enough is better than a few big ships. That said, the Iowas were the finest battleships ever put to sea and the 16"/50 Mark 7s would put the fear of God into those commie bastards, but the Grey Ladies deserve their rest. I've been on Wisconsin after they made her a museum, you really can't appreciate how fucking huge they are until you're standing on one.
 
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