Reorganization of September 29th, 2025

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Ken Barlow said:
Change is the enemy of complacency.
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"Customers expect the eggs to be on the LEFT side of the store, but we're gonna move them to the RIGHT side of the store, and the romance novels are going from the RIGHT side to the LEFT!"
 
Community Happenings tourists unaffected

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Not a fan of how Deathfats was merged into Beauty Parlor.

A large portion of my enjoyment of this site comes from watching fatties act like retards. The deathfat board was a perfect containment for many of us to observe those with high BMIs.

I WILL NOT WATCH THREAD . I WILL NOT WATCH THREAD . I WILL NOT WATCH THREAD
 
I appreciate reducing the number of vaguely defined and overlapping boards, but I think some groups, like Animal Control, were well defined and isolated enough (even if not completely insular) to be useful. If each thread is limited to having only one tag, then you have the same categorization problem as having to put a thread in one board versus another. I will say the new tags look nice though. And I'm another "yes I do want to look at groups versus people" user.
 
All jokes aside, I have some thoughts on this post.
Null said:
Here is an example of categorical problems:
Is Jim Sterling more Internet Famous or more Stinkditch? He was a YouTuber for 10 years before he trooned out but now his trooning out is his entire personality.
Is Patricia Taxxon more Furry or more Internet Famous or Stinkditch or Lolcows? He's a YouTuber who became openly Furry and is extremely trooned out but if you asked him he'd call himself a career musician.
Who is a lolcow? Who makes the distinction that Jeremy Hambly is mostly a grifter or a lolcow? If someone starts acting more like a lolcow over time, who makes the judgement call to move a thread? Does that distinction fall solely on me? Is such a move even necessary and does it constitute a "demotion"? Does such a move help anyone find the thread?
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I would add onto this: not only is the lolcow categorical system a problem, but also the fact that people constantly have to justify what makes somebody a lolcow so they can create a new thread, as you have pointed out before in proposing grounds. Every time a new thread is made, you have the same groups of annoying users constantly saying, "BUT WHERE'S THE FUNNY?????" "THIS PERSON IS NOT A LOLCOW." Compare this with the days of old when you could make a thread with a few blocks of text calling some random YouTuber a lolcow, and people would gladly post in it. I think this weird gatekeeping has prevented new lolcows from being discovered. I also think the formatting standards for OPs are too strict. I think we should be able to make a simple thread about a random YouTuber being a lolcow, and then if that person turns out to be interesting, somebody could commission a longer and more detailed thread instead of requiring a 10k-word essay documenting every single lolcow.
Null said:
This habit of demanding new boards for specific kinds of lolcows never went away even when I stopped trying to 'adopt' outside interest in the forum. So over time, instead of making an Entersphere-style board, I'd instead make a board for what I think broadly fits an interest to help discoverability.

This did the opposite. As the site naturally gains members and loses members, members who were already interested in moved threads would stop posting in those threads, and new members would not find them because they were sidelined to a random board. This resulted in graveyard boards with a handful of smoldering threads and everything else last peeped in 2024 or earlier.

So my effort to improve thread activity by enhancing discoverability failed in multiple ways. New communities stopped merging into the Kiwi Farms, existing posters lost interest in threads that were harder to find, new users never found these segregated threads, and the front page of the site was more confusing to new users.

You might think (and I worry) that having a bunch of threads in one board might have a similarly diminishing effect on discoverability. How do you find relevant threads in a big board? I don't know. Maybe you can't. 4chan seems to do fine with hugely busy catalogs. People don't seem to have issues finding places to post there. Maybe it's no issue.
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I think the biggest issue Kiwifarms has is the entire concept of subforums. What do I mean by this? Well, you brought up the example of 4chan. With 4chan, for all its flaws, you can click a board for whatever topic, like /pol/, and then you can pull up a catalog with all the latest posts about that topic. For Kiwifarms, You have so many random subforums, and within those subforums, you have pages and pages of old threads that nobody can find or reply to. You add on top of that the fact that some things fit into multiple categories, which makes it harder to find certain topics, for example. Does Elon Musk fit into happenings in technology, lolcows, or grift wars? and this is a terrible idea for discoverability, affecting new and old users alike.
Null said:
The size of the Kiwi Farms has not increased at all since the end of Drop Kiwi Farms.

Dunno. That's all I have to say.
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I think the password lockout was one of the biggest killers of site growth, as it effectively banned many longtime users who then didn't bother to make new accounts. And that's before you mention the confusing site layout and the banning of many prominent Kiwi Farms users that brought traffic, such as Android Raptor Wolfetone and Zoey, aka Tiffiny Skyler Johnson, along with Twitter now allowing the "free speech" that brought people to Kiwi Farms, like tranny bashing. Adding onto this problem, Kiwi Farms is now filled with many subcultures of terrible posters, such as newfags (me), terfs, oldfags, and poltards, or A&Hers. All of these people are not fun anymore; we don't make the site interesting, and everybody ends up isolating themselves into echo chamber threads, and when we exit our echo chambers, like the manhate thread, the women hate thread, the Donald Trump lolcow thread, or any of the other mini echo chambers on this site, we get banned, myself included. For slapfighting in threads, this further discourages debate and encourages cultural ghettos like the aforementioned echo chamber threads.

Kiwi Farms isn't interesting anymore. I now visit this site out of habit instead of genuine interest; the whole novelty of being the free speech site is more of a myth now than a genuine feature. Call me an annoying sperg all you want, but the fact that you can get a week-long ban for arguing with people in a thread about politics is absurd. Even Twitter allows more free speech than current-day Kiwi Farms. What's the point of using the "last bastion of free speech" if the only free speech you get is the right to criticize trannies? Now that Twitter and other mainstream sites allow this speech, I have no reason to go to Kiwi Farms anymore. Add onto this the fact that no new lolcows are discovered, all the entertaining posters are banned or quit, and this site has lost everything that made it special. It's truly shocking looking at old threads and seeing how many people in those threads are banned or quit the site. Kiwi Farms has become the green Reddit with slurs; it no longer has anything interesting or unique about it. If something doesn't change, this site will continue to die a slow, painful death like something awful, leaving nothing but whining oldfags, Null and his moderators screeching about trannys censoring the forum to his remaining 20 followers.

I know I might get banned from Kiwifarms for my truth bomb post, but these words had to be said. Nully boy, please fix these problems and save this once great forum before it dies a sad, miserable death.
 
You also merged Deathfats into BP and tagged all former Deathfats thread "Deathfats".
Love you King.
 
I found a feature that is so secret that even I didn't know about it. It's so hidden it's fucking preposterous. Why is this important functionality not a big button?

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This menu is basically a lifehack to sort through the board and includes prefixes. Filtering by prefix here is the same as clicking on the tag.

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Your active filters show up in the top-left in a very user friendly way that makes disabling them trivial. This works with date searches too.

If there was some way to put a scroll of all thread prefixes there so that you can 1-click to enable them, that would be a really excellent way to enable filtering. There's no way to accomplish this though. I think I will mod it in. A very elegant solution.
 
In the spirit of change. Would it be possible to embed Preservetube videos on the site, the same way Youtube videos are?
 
The only thing I'll say is community watch and maybe Internet famous/grifter should be seperate boards. The tags work fine so I have no real reason think this other than it just feels wrong, idk I'm a newfag so I'll probably get used to it.
 
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