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Should be a wild four years.

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One problem has been that among the conspiracy-mongers are the "vets" who have to weigh in on the conversation by saying dumb stuff like "A .30-06? As a former Marine and a paramedic, I highly doubt it; it would have made his entire torso explode!" or "Obviously he was wearing a vest and the round spalled upwards into his neck after being deflected from the vest."

A problem with some vets is their impulsive need to claim expertise while blundering into discussions of these types of events. I've seen ex-SF guys claiming to have heard ".300 Blackout" shots during the near-assassination of Trump in Butler, vets claiming Luigi Mangione was a “pro” based on his stance alone, etc. and all it does is confuse easily influenced, low-IQ people who will take at face value any statement made by anyone who claims to have served (whether they actually did or not).

I have encountered "former Marines" who claimed to have been knowledgeable about firearms but had seemingly never heard of calibers like .40 S&W and looked at me like I had a second head growing out of my neck when I mentioned them. Being in the military doesn't make you an expert on guns, as evidenced by the extremely moronic things I've seen said by vets who think a dummy filled with ballistic gel is a 1:1 substitute for human tissue, muscle and bone. Like the vetbros who in the near-immediate wake of the Kirk shooting started sperging with absolute confidence in their opinions about how the triggerman "definitely" had to be a black ops professional assassin because he made a 200m shot on a motionless target and remembered to leave the scene after committing murder. Or people who said the report of the rifle sounded like "an AR platform rifle" to them because gunshots work just like they do in videogames where the type of gun being fired always sounds the same all the time, so just forget about acoustics and all that, much less that there might be a some sort of distortion that comes with hearing a rifle report at an outdoor amphitheater from a video you played, from your smartphone speaker.
 
1995 Oklahoma bombing?
Look, I get you are an idiot, and a troll, but this needs addressing. Oklahoma City Bombing didn't happen because faggot marriage was made legal. OKCB didn't happen because roe v wade was decided in a pro-abortion direction. OKCB didn't happen because the assault weapons band was passed. OKCB didn't happen because someone tried to assassinate President Reagan. OKCB didn't happen because George Bush Sr. weakened Iraq via the gulf war, a regional power against Israel, because AIPAC lobbied him to. The Oklahoma City bombing happened because the Federal government over stepped its bounds and illegally harassed, attempted to, and on several occasions successfully murdered America citizens at Ruby Ridge, and Waco. Citing the actions of Timothy McVeigh as "right-wing" terrorism in relation to the leftist assassination of a political activist whose only actions included speaking, fund raising, and campaigning for his preferred candidates, is like citing a catholic mass in relation to the attempted islamic conquest of Europe. Its arguable that if Waco hadn't happened, but Ruby Ridge did, that OKCB wouldn't have. OKCB was a clear reaction to an emerging pattern of government oppression of "undesirable" elements in the American public. Right or wrong, that was Timothy's reason for his actions.

This video was okay in some parts but other parts make me rethink my opinion on Sam Hyde. I straight up wonder if he's a fed now with his his bitching about the Constitution and how "it's just a piece of paper that's used against me!" without mentioning the fact that the same piece of paper is what is used against the Democrats. Without that piece of paper the country would be far far worse. At the same time Sam Hyde is bombarding his page with Nick Fuentes shilling, like WTF is going on big guy?

Seeing people like Alex Jones retweeting and personally endorsing this video when they clearly only watched the first 3 minutes is scary because they are unknowingly spreading literal anti-constitution propaganda. The fact that someone so influential on the right is saying this shit and then even more influential figures on the right are spreading this shit is terrifying. And when you think about it, no one really talks about the Constitution anymore, and kids certainly aren't taught about the Constitution. It's really fucking sad and the fact that Sam Hyde is the guy spreading this bullshit is both hilarious and very shocking to me.
And yet you did not address his point. When the blacks with their phone jammers turn up at White farms in rural south africa, what saves lives? The South African constitution that says murder is bad? The South African government supposedly bound to that constitution? Or do rifles and training, and will to kill before being killed? What good is that peace of paper, if it doesn't stop what happened to Kirk? I admire the wit, and foresight of the founding fathers as much as the next patriot. Yet they themselves did not stick to the "constitution" of parliament when it became clear there would be no redress of grievances. I can't speak for Sam, but I personally don't think the constitution is a flawed form of government. I'm just realistic that paper won't stop the commies from killing you. "This is America" has been the bullshit expression of every boomercon for a while now. And "this is America" hasn't stopped a damn thing. Won't stop you being killed, and replaced. When the other side actively ignores even basic constitutional law (1st and 2nd amendments for a billion examples of this). What good is that constitution? The only time liberals pay it lip service is when it can be used to fuck you over, or stop you from reversing the death of America. Ideas do not fight battles, or win wars. Men with rifles do. I'm not saying "religious race war now", I am saying be realistic. You're enemies want you dead, they just murdered a man more moderate than you, and your upset that someone is saying a piece of paper, most government desk jockeys don't give a shit about right now, isn't going to save you. "I have rights" cried the victim, "Lmao" replied the commissar. "The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. It is it's natural manure." Plan accordingly.
 
Haven't seen it mentioned much with Kirk dominating the news, but a black student named Trey Reed was found hung on a tree a couple of days back in Mississippi at a college campus. The coroner called it a suicide with no signs of foul play involved while the parents have hired a Civil Rights Lawyer(lol) as they've claimed their son to have experienced lots of racism so it was them good ol' boys who did an old fashioned lynching.

You'd also be right to assume that in the framing of the scarce corporate media articles they make it sound like he was lynched without outright saying it, giving them a lot of leeway to cover their asses when their source are just bullshit people are saying on social media. If you look up his name you'll see a fair few articles and they'll always be dishonest in that weaselly lying by omission way that journos do. It'll be interesting once the state crime lab gets back with its own results, as if there's anything other than a strong denial that foul play was involved we'll see journos pumping out slop as a family weaponizes the death of their son in order to win the ghetto lottery.

It's hard not to be jaded about death this week. I'd love for the kid be alive and grow to be a contributing member of society, but the rot of politicized media leaves me bitter. If the story picks up steam in the next couple weeks all of the worst people will use his corpse as a cudgel instead of letting the soul rest.
 
It's hard not to be jaded about death this week. I'd love for the kid be alive and grow to be a contributing member of society, but the rot of politicized media leaves me bitter. If the story picks up steam in the next couple weeks all of the worst people will use his corpse as a cudgel instead of letting the soul rest.
They would have demonstrated, as they always do, that they care much less about the lives of blacks and other minorities than the so called "fascist, racist Nazi party"
 
Use a Sig or Beretta? “YOU’RE USING A MILITARY GRADE WEAPON?!”
Use a Glock? “YOU’RE USING THE SAME GUN AS GANG MEMBERS?!”
Use a revolver? “WHY ARE YOU USING A COWBOY GUN? YOU MUST BE A GUN NUT.”
Using FMJ? You want overpenetration to maximize casualties. Using hollow/soft points? You're looking for maximum damage against your victim.

Ask Rittenhouse. No choice you can make will not be attacked by a dedicated enough prosecutor.
 
Use a Sig or Beretta? “YOU’RE USING A MILITARY GRADE WEAPON?!”
Use a Glock? “YOU’RE USING THE SAME GUN AS GANG MEMBERS?!”
Use a revolver? “WHY ARE YOU USING A COWBOY GUN? YOU MUST BE A GUN NUT.”

Sir please to not trigger my gun austim cause now your making think of the best weapon to use for the comedy.

Use a Lugar? What are you a nazi?

Use a broom handle Mouse. Are you a nazi? or a star wars fan?

Use a 5.7 What are you LOWTAX!?
 
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Chunk has been talking nicer about the right wing as of late.
Makes me wonder how many of the less ardent supports of the left are considering a shift to a more centrist or right-wing position after seeing their side go full retard and the discourse of the right primarily being contemplation on how scorched earth they want to go against the left.
Him and his dipshit nephew or whatever Hasan is are probably realizing how real shit is. Charlie Kirk never trashed anybody and was extremely polite and kind. They're probably worried someone on the right will kill them for their takes over the years.
 
Him and his dipshit nephew or whatever Hasan is are probably realizing how real shit is. Charlie Kirk never trashed anybody and was extremely polite and kind. They're probably worried someone on the right will kill them for their takes over the years.
Nope, and we can talk about the starvation he denied Israel was doing.
 
A speech that no one watched or quotes from, so it was a waste of time.
I was just thinking the other day about how forgettable political speech is now. I was trying to make a joke that would require a recognizable Obama quote that wasn't some gaffe, and none came to mind at all. Then I looked up Obama quotes, and got things like:
No matter how much you've done or how successful you've been, there's always more to do, always more to learn and always more to achieve.
We are reminded that, in the fleeting time we have on this Earth, what matters is not wealth, or status, or power, or fame, but rather how well we have loved and what small part we have played in making the lives of other people better.
So I gave up.
 
I was just thinking the other day about how forgettable political speech is now. I was trying to make a joke that would require a recognizable Obama quote that wasn't some gaffe, and none came to mind at all. Then I looked up Obama quotes, and got things like:


So I gave up.

The only Obama quote that sprang to memory was the one about people being able to keep their health plan if they liked it. However, that turned out to be as empty as everything else he had to say. Obama's only historical significant will be as the first black president. When school children one hundred years in the future learn US history, that's the only piece of information they'll learn or remember about him.
 
The only Obama quote that sprang to memory was the one about people being able to keep their health plan if they liked it. However, that turned out to be as empty as everything else he had to say. Obama's only historical significant will be as the first black president. When school children one hundred years in the future learn US history, that's the only piece of information they'll learn or remember about him.
Obama is just the placeholder because he is mulatto. Once a proper black man gets into office, they will give him the title of first black president and Obama gets tossed into the dustbin of history because I am pretty sure he can't even claim to be the first mixed race president.
 
Use a Sig or Beretta? “YOU’RE USING A MILITARY GRADE WEAPON?!”
Use a Glock? “YOU’RE USING THE SAME GUN AS GANG MEMBERS?!”
Use a revolver? “WHY ARE YOU USING A COWBOY GUN? YOU MUST BE A GUN NUT.”
No matter what you do, they'll try to paint you as the villain.

In Back to the Future Part II, Doc Brown mentioned that they abolished all lawyers in their version of the future.

Honestly with tomfoolery like this it might not be the worst idea.
 
I know a lot of tards who like to brag about how Obama's speeches were at a high school reading level, whereas other presidents' speeches were at a middle school level (the grade levels for both vary depending on who's saying it).

Basically he used unnecessarily long words and was condescending. Which was apparently a good thing, because working and lower class Americans just aren't worth connecting with and communicating effectively to.
 
i can't wait for them all to come back and somehow make everything about fucking Israel again. (:_(
It has been a week. And in that week, the thread has not once become a 10 page slapfight over retarded shit between one of the same 3-5 posters over and over again. I've never seen this thread more composed, on topic and... normal. No one seems to be that riled up and eager to get into pissing contests by accusing the other of sucking either Trump or Biden's cock for 4 hours over a throw away opinion comment and then blame jews.

I'm beginning to think Hollywood Hulk Hogan is right. The real retards lived in this thread all along and it was just his retarded way of trying to show everyone that.
 
looks like Melania's got that Deathfast At Tffany's / Hat Man / Carmen Sandiego outfit but a purple hat
isn't that fashion code for deployed ninjas or something?
 
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