Is political violence acceptable? Is it hypocritical to gravedance on tranny suicides and then get upset about gravedancing on political violence?

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Null said:
I thought you quit
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Check your telegram DM history then

You're probably thinking of Absolutego, who got a big enough promotion at work that he couldn't sweep anymore. The brief headline about hundreds of reports in the original Kirk thread made me feel sympathetic, sounds worse the the '22 Ukraine posters
 
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LiquidKid said:
It’s not irony when it’s a deliberately planned attack. Why don’t any of you people realize that? This isn’t a random killing, this isn’t collateral damage. This is someone who deliberately went there to murder him publicly and waited for an opportune moment. It was a manufactured moment, not irony
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this is by definition an ironic way to die

The Titanic was touted as an “unsinkable” ship, yet it sank on its first voyage

Charlie kirk -"Gun deaths are unfortunately worth it to keep 2nd amendment"​

he is then killed by a gun this is situational irony
  • The expectation: The lion advocate works to protect lions, and their efforts are meant to ensure the animals' well-being and continued survival. The person expects their actions to lead to a positive outcome for the species.
  • The reality: The advocate is attacked and eaten by a lion.
  • The irony: The very animal the person dedicated their life to helping ends up being the cause of their death. The situation undermines the person's intentions and the expected, positive outcome of their advocacy
 
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Lokenstien said:
This has been a thing for a while here but it still amazes me how often users here will gleefully dehumanize one population before shitting & wailing about the dehumanization of their population. I doubt very much will change for the better as American political discourse continue to devolve into “my side is holy & good while your side is satanic & evil”. My advice is to become jaded and morbid.
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A lot of the conversations in this forum when it comes to this kind of thing boils down to "We're the chads and they're the soyjak chuds" unfortunately. Because dehumanization is basically the name of the game now. It's okay to dehumanize the people they don't like, but people they like? Don't do that chud stop shitting up the thread RIGHT NOW!!!!
 
Team TERF said:
What exactly is the difference between a neo-Nazi (an actual one, not the loose libtard definition) going out and killing a bunch of black people at a grocery store, and Farmers rejoicing with TND, and one deranged psycho shooting Charlie Kirk and some more deranged libtards gravedancing? Sounds pretty equivalent to me.
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The neo-nazi and the farmers aren't institutional. The farms in particular has good moderation, follows American law and forbids interacting with the subjects here discussed; yet this place is denied infrastructure, payment processing services and its slandered by the mainstream media, wikipedia and google.
We are a bunch of nobodies and probably most people here wouldn't find funny a video of a random person being victimized.

On the other side are institutions that allowed and promoted the narrative of Drumpf being literally hittler, that call everything slightly right-wing of "extremism" and blatantly lie against right wing people.

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prollyanotherlurker said:
I see a pink triangle retard doing it. I forget, do people get pink triangles because they post intelligent well thought out posts, that the majority of the forum agrees with? Or by being retarded spergs that deserve to be mocked?

In either case, I wouldn't exactly call the reactions I'm seeing in those as some big celebration. I see a lot of people expressing the same thing I have. That the system failed the troons, they deserve pity. And I see a lot of people that don't want to give positive attention to people commiting suicide, because that's what they want when they do it.
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We must be reading different threads then, because the second thread I posted has several users mocking the tranny while those who didn't mock him were getting negrated. the pink triangle retard was far from being the only gravedancer and he didn't have the pink triangle when it happened.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
How can you say that shit and not see that you are buying into the bullshit?
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Trannies are not being shot in public (yet) for espousing their views. They are a protected class. It is not even a remote equivalent. Trannies say that shit to mock the people actually being politically oppressed. Everything leftists say is DARVO, it's their basic M.O. How can you be this naive?
 
The Second Numidium said:
Can everyone please write,

"I have no new information or details about the event itself, I am only here to argue with internet strangers because I am retarded and a faggot"

at the beginning of any post that doesn't have new info in it?

It'll make skimming the highlights so much easier.
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you went to autistic thunderdome and clicked on mass debates and are upset theres people debating are you a nigger or a retard ? theres also a post for it https://kiwifarms.st/threads/charlie-kirk-aftermath-gravedancing-and-manhunt.228263/
 
Netizennameless said:
Trannies are not being shot in public (yet) for espousing their views. They are a protected class. It is not even a remote equivalent. Trannies say that shit to mock the people actually being politically oppressed. Everything leftists say is DARVO, it's their basic M.O. How can you be this naive?
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If you think I believe what the leftists are saying you completely missed my point.
 
Team TERF said:
What exactly is the difference between a neo-Nazi (an actual one, not the loose libtard definition) going out and killing a bunch of black people at a grocery store, and Farmers rejoicing with TND, and one deranged psycho shooting Charlie Kirk and some more deranged libtards gravedancing? Sounds pretty equivalent to me.
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Did the rightwing unanimously come out to cheer for that grocery store shooter like leftists are cheering for Charlie Kirk getting murdered in front of his kid? Must've missed that
 
smartomato said:
The neo-nazi and the farmers aren't institutional. The farms in particular has good moderation, follows American law and forbids interacting with the subjects here discussed; yet this place is denied infrastructure, payment processing services and its slandered by the mainstream media, wikipedia and google.
We are a bunch of nobodies and probably most people here wouldn't find funny a video of a random person being victimized.

On the other side are institutions that allowed and promoted the narrative of Drumpf being literally hittler, that call everything slightly right-wing of "extremism" and blatantly lie against right wing people.

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Lol ok buddy, go make a post openly celebrating Charlie's death in the same way you guys do whenever brown people die on any of the mainstream social media websites and see how long your account lasts. Plenty of templates for you to use here
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No, outside of self-defense, defense of others and war.. violence like this is... not a good thing.. to put it mildly. Politically speaking, it is utter ruin.. leading to only more violence and collapse of society.

Grave dancing.. is more contextual. Murderers and serious criminals, yeah.. Political and ideological shit.. No. Not quite as serious or ruinous as violence but still not good. and potentially escalating. Grave dancing over a political or ideological murder/assassination victim.. Fuck no! Any side or person. All that said.. doing it publicly and under your real identity is fucking retarded beyond belief! Should it be "allowed", yes. Should you get to keep your job if you publicly dance on the grave of a political assassination victim.. maybe a different story. In the era of "consequence culture" still being a thing, just coming off of a decade of it and it's.. less than universal enforcement. I temporarily lowered my objections a while ago in the name of mutual pain being the only hope of stopping it. It seems to finally be going the other way/working. (if places like ReeeEra are anything to go by.. people already whining about how it "isn't right")

To be clear here, i'm counting grave dancing as meaning serious "glad you were murdered/you're dead" type stuff. Shit posting aside.
Personally I don't like the idea of dancing outside of ultra rare cases like murderers and people literally killed trying to kill/hurt others. Even shitposting.

Is it hypocritical? It can be but we have to be very fucking clear about what we are comparing. Political assassination or even just being killed, and someone an heroing are two different things entirely. But it doesn't necessarily make it less or not, at least somewhat hypocritical. Morally speaking at least.
 
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LaxerBRO said:
But fucking empathy for the migrants and illegal aliens. Now we have close to 16 million of them and the left is actively objecting to deporting anyone save the most harden criminals as that's tearing families and communities apart.
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My objection to Kirk's objection to empathy is it was semi-illiterate. Sympathy is actually feeling like a fellow of the person you're sympathizing with. Empathy is not a new term in the slightest, and has been around since at least the early 20th Century. It simply means being able to have a grasp of what someone else feels because you have a theory of mind.

It's important to have empathy even for people you want dead. A true sadist, as opposed to someone who is just kind of mean, actually has to have empathy. They have to have some grasp of what their victim feels in order to relish it. While it is obviously necessary to be empathetic to try to good for people, even mentally functional evil fucks can use it. Empathy is a skill some humans are born without.

Sympathy is actually sympathizing with some group of people for their perceived victimization or similarity to your own situation.

While empathy and sympathy overlap, they're different things. You can be simultaneously empathetic and sympathetic, be either one, or be neither. None of them should dictate policy issues.

So, for instance, I'm both empathetic and sympathetic to people who seek H1-Bs to send money to their family back home. They still need to go back, though.
 

I'm afraid this whole event has had an effect on how I view my fellow man. I've held deep contempt for groups and people before, but even at the most stunted and reprehensible, there was a human soul that was wounded in such a way to create what they are in the present. Their lives can be lesser or greater depending on their circumstances and actions as far as we're concerned in this life, but every soul inherently has equal value. I don't think I've entertained the idea of demonic possession or the idea that someone can become less than human before this. Mocking and laughing at someone learning of their friend's death may be one of the lowest acts I've ever seen, and it's almost indistinguishable from a pack of coyotes.
 
Hex Cat said:
Did the rightwing unanimously come out to cheer for that grocery store shooter like leftists are cheering for Charlie Kirk getting murdered in front of his kid? Must've missed that
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Yes, there were plenty of people who cheered it on.

Unanimously? Right wingers aren't a monolith. Neither are left wingers. There are plenty of liberals who have had a measured response to the Kirk shooting.

There are extremists on both sides. Not all Republicans are Nazis, and not all Democrats are murderous gravedancers.
 
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