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Most pooners don't get stronger jaws or anything like that. They might get roid muscles if they are diligent about trying to body build but they'll otherwise just get lots of hair growth and bad acne. They pass somewhat better than trannies because it's very untypical to see anything like beard growth on a woman. So your initial thought if you're uninitiated that it's just a very unfortunate young man who lost the genetic lottery and then some.

The average pooner that goes on sufficient amounts of T is just a frumpy woman with pube beard growth. Incredibly awkward little gnome like creatures to encounter in the wild.
The weird thing is, female athletes who juice DO very often get a muckle man jaw, much much more impressive than pooners.
Is it to do with the working out and really setting the test running in their system?
Is it because they are athletic of build anywya and have a better genetic framework to start with?

Fr tho, the lady athletes who bloke themselves up as a side effect do eb shitting all over pooner gains.
 
Hello fellow trans people. :P
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Gloating about political assassination lets the side down, so let's not.
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Hello fellow trans people. :P
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Their subreddit getting banned would be a net positive for the world. And it would be karma coming back from all the gender-critical and lesbian subreddits getting banned.
 
Once you start getting specifically looking for "tells" it gets pretty schizo and not something the average person would do to someone they pass on the street. One of the best arguments against "transvestigators" is how many cis people they catch in the crossfire, even when they say "it's not a single trait, it's the combination of them. This is tall, square jawed, broad shouldered women all over again.
I would say when out and about, clocking troons 'n' poons isn't even an active choice for me but merely a sudden, uncontrollable knowledge of one's birth sex. My stare may linger if I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at, but it's an automatic reflex to simply know. Have I missed any in passing? Sure, I'm sure I have simply walking by them in a store or in a parking lot, but the second I have to talk to them or focus on them for very long, it's pretty much instantaneous.

What tricks people into thinking they pass, however, is there are likely many like me who weren't raised in barns and don't go out of their ways to willfully gender these people when they speak to them, because often times they are low-rung service personnel and we're just trying to get our shit - preferably spite spit-free - and go. They may have an encounter with someone like me and assume I was none the wiser, but I really just can't give enough of a shit to go "Thank you, SIR, I hope you have a wonderful day, MA'AM."

Also, I would ultimately blame those of the pronoun persuasion for catching more androgynous people in the crossfire of transvestigators because trans people themselves, as a community, routinely lie, deceive and misrepresent themselves all in service to their ego. They claim it's in the guise of their own safety, they cry that it's a matter of medical privacy, they fear that the knowledge of a gendered legal name will make others treat them differently. The end result remains the same: these are people who want you to believe they are what they claim to be, not what they really are, and that's the core of the issue of the paranoia behind transvestigators (who can be serious lolcows in and of themselves).

This deception has consequences: babies have died when medical personnel were not alerted that a man with stomach pain was a woman with contractions due to her gender identity, we've seen both women and men arrested for lying about their sex to gain sexual access to those who would withhold it otherwise - it doesn't suit anyone to live in the land of liars, especially children gaslit by their family and friends to not trust their eyes when they see what's before them, and that's precisely what cooks the brains of transvestigators to tilt at every windmill like some sort of Don Queerxote.
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The L Word: a pooner feels like a completely emasculated capital-L Loser when her girlfriend shows competency around fixing vehicles and furniture, which leads her to constantly worrying that she's not being a good and proper man around the house. This leads the girlfriend to constantly take aim at her for being a sexist pig that can't handle women in charge, which makes OP even more worried that she's secretly a giant misogynist. While the girlfriend sounds exhausting as well, there's something funny about pooners getting their misogyny thrown back in their faces and then shaking in their boots as a result.
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Dating a Cis Woman
Hey, fellas. Just wanting to vent real quick to those who will understand. I’m dating a cis woman and she’s made some comments that have made me feel kind of uncomfortable. She’s the love of my life and not ill-intentioned at all, but sometimes I just wish she could empathize with me as a transgender man. We recently moved to a new place together and we were going out on a date at a tea place in the Asian district by our house. I was feeling very dysphoric and was worried how I was going to be perceived in public which I told my gf. She said that “Asian men look more like women anyway” so that I would be fine (we’re both white btw). Excuse me??? I was visibly upset and taken aback by this and when she asked me what was wrong I simply repeated what she said back to her and she said something to the effect of “you know what I meant.”

A few nights ago after initiating intimacy with me (I politely declined saying that I was tired) she jokingly said “oh sorry I didn’t know that I was with my girlfriend and all we do is cuddle and pillow fight” which really hurt my feelings. I asked her if she saw me as a man and she said that she does and that she meant “girlfriend” as in like friend and not in like a wlw way. I told her that my anxiety makes it hard for me to believe bc of my…anatomy… and that my internalized transphobia makes it hard for me to believe that she wants me as a man and not as a woman. She was offended and accused me of “using her bisexuality against her” and said that she deals with enough biphobia from everyone else and that she’d like for me to trust her that she views me as a man. I tried explaining that I genuinely didn’t mean to offend her or be biphobic bc that’s not where my mind went at all and that it was purely me invalidating myself and projecting that onto her. She wasn’t too keen on my explanation. I asked her if when she was intimate with me that she viewed me as a man to which she replied “we are intimate the way we need to be intimate” and that we are just people. I told her that it concerned me that she didn’t just say that she viewed me as a man. She told me that I should go date a straight girl then. She told me that I needed to get my dysphoria under control and that just bc my issues are revolved around my internalized transphobia doesn’t mean that it’s not impacting her in different ways (biphobia, misogyny). A common issue for us as of late is my internalized transphobia is appearing as misogyny (and perhaps is admittedly internalized misogyny).

On a recent road trip we took, my car broke down and she fixed it. When we left the store with the supplies to fix the car she looked at me and said that she was “so boyfriend.” I got huffy and dysphoric and super lame about it bc I felt sad that I didn’t know how to fix my car and felt as though if I were a “real man” I would be better doing things like that. She got upset with me and claimed that I was just upset that a woman fixed his car. I told her no and that I thought it was kick ass and that I’m very appreciative it was just me being transphobic towards myself. I told her that the issue for me was not that she could fix the car, it was that I could not. She didn’t seem to believe me and told me once again that I was just upset bc I felt emasculated and pointlessly gendering things. Once we moved in, she built all the furniture (that’s more of her skill set whereas I come from a conservative background wherein my parents didn’t teach me “masculine” life skills) and I jumped at the opportunity to help her. She refused my help just about every single time. I basically just stood around while she worked. I told her that I felt bad for her working while I was standing around doing nothing and that I wanted to help. She brought up the whole “gender roles” issue again, but I told her that I just genuinely wanted to help and that I’ve never really had the opportunity to learn anything about working with my hands and I’d like to learn.

Before moving in, she told me that this is basically how everything would go and that she would be in charge and all that jazz and I told her that I’d like to be useful and she told me that she didn’t want me to be useful. I brought it up and told her that I feel like I don’t bring much to the table for her and she said that I was being misogynistic bc I was undervaluing the more “feminine” life skills that I have. I told her that I loved being emotional support for her but that I wanted to expand my skills. I asked her to name what I bring to the table outside of emotional support and she pretty much couldn’t outside of I’m a good cook and even though she can cook well she doesn’t like to. I told her that I sort of felt like more of a companion rather than a partner. She said I didn’t need to bc she was there to take care of it and that relationships are never 50/50 and sometimes they’re 90/10. Ouch. I told her that I felt like she could get the same things she gets out of a relationship with me by owning a dog.

She was raised learning a lot more outside of gender roles and I wasn’t which is why I’m such an underprepared adult. My parents expected me to be a housewife and marry a rich man only for me to turn out a very stupid and very poor man. She said that a dog couldn’t help her the way I can and that I’m undervaluing what I bring to the table bc it’s traditionally seen as feminine. Meanwhile, when I bring up my past as a lesbian/woman (I definitely wasn’t and it was just something that everyone was convinced I was and that I thought I was too) it makes her uncomfortable. When I talk to my women friends (I was in a sorority and I’m pretty much only friends with women) she gets uncomfortable bc I act feminine and that it doesn’t seem like me. I told her that since transitioning I’ve become more comfortable with my feminine side and that that group just brings it out of me. She said that it feels more like “when white people are super into Black culture.” I told her that I can understand that, but I really truly just thought I was being myself. She says that it comes off as condescending and that women don’t like being treated the way that I treat them. I asked her if any of our friends had approached her about this and that I want/need to correct my behavior. She said that no one has but that I need to figure out how I really act bc she thinks I’m putting on sort of a show to fit in when I don’t need to anymore since I’ve come out and transitioned. I thought I was being myself but maybe I’m not?? Maybe I really am being misogynist and encroaching on women’s issues as a man, but to me it doesn’t feel like it.

I know that it’s complicated and that even though I never identified as a woman or with womanhood, I presented like a woman and was treated as a woman for the vast majority of my life and have just recently started my transition. It feels invalidating to hear the my partner dismiss my experiences (especially with misogyny and homophobia from others) and claim that my issues with myself are actually issues with her. I understand that I am not perfect by ANY means and that I can be a complete mess and that my issues truly do impact her, but am I crazy for thinking that I feel like I’m saying one thing and she’s hearing another? I am just frustrated bc I’ve done a lot of work in therapy over these past few years and have made great progress unlearning so much of the toxically masculine standards and ideas about gender and relationships and I’ve made great progress. But I would be remiss without acknowledging that I have a lot of areas in which I need to improve and that there’s a very real possibility that subconsciously my prejudices are leading me to feel this way. Maybe I’m in the wrong for this, but sometimes when these issues come up I feel like she’s unnecessarily making it about herself. If I am in the wrong for this or have any advice please, please let me know. I love with woman more than life itself and want our relationship to work more than anything. Thanks for reading, those of you who did, and I apologize for the long and unpolished rant. Have a great rest of your day, gentlemen and themntlemen 🫡
A TiF is mad that her doctor's office lists her birth sex as female because, according to her, being nipped, tucked and pumped full of hormones to the point of chronic hormonal imbalance constitutes as changing her biology fully to male. What gametes do you produce, dood?
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Doctor’s office won’t change my gender to male because I’m “still genetically female”

Yet I don’t have internal female organs, breasts, or an estrogenic endocrine system… My labs always come up with a million flags because they refuse to admit that I’ve changed my biology to male 🙄. If I wasn’t limited to these buffoons, I’d switch to someone else
A tranny writes a detailed post about the malignant behaviors regular people do that force him to close the gates of his spiritual garden lest cisgender pestilence reign. I like that he frames this as some sort of general cluelessness rather than people subtly trolling him in ways they can't lose their jobs over. I mean, do you really think nobody knows exactly how to piss you off by now when you wear it on your sleeve all the time?
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I hate how cis people are so casually cruel about us

Tag because I talk about sexual harassment and such.
Interacting with cis people as a trans individual has become frightening and exhausting.
I'm not even talking about policy, or politics for that matter. I am talking about personal grievances I have socially. I am not a theorist, or for that matter educated enough to discuss current politics meaningfully.
These are personal grievances I have encountered and endured. The actions and their perpetrators are not systems, they are individuals.
I am listing something I would say an overwhelming amount of cis people are guilty of. The vast majority are either complacent at best, or active participants in these behaviors. These are behaviors I have, and at times consistently experienced and am getting tired of.
If you think you're one of "the good ones" or "the bestest ally that ever allied" you are likely sorely mistaken if you have never critically examined gender and it's affects in your life and psychology.

I have it set down to three points of some of my most common experiences -
The constant cruelty
Time and time again, when interacting with a trans individual, cis people will trip over themselves to hurl insults, and outright maliciously deny their identity.
Trans people will come up in unrelated conversations and topics with the express purpose of some kind of piss taking.
Something I've witnessed countless times, especially when the person I'm talking to doesn't know I'm trans.
Much of this cruelty is born out of willful ignorance, and an outright refusal to understand the lives of trans people because they view them as "yucky" or whatever.
There exists a constant spiral of dehumanization present in current society. Whether it's social content farming, grifting, or just general rants, it's pervasive across most media.
There is a general denial of privacy that trans individuals suffer in their day to day lives. Lines of invasive questions, comments, and actions that are levied against them. Questions I have to carefully avoid throughout my day if I am to enjoy even a minor amount of sanity.
  1. Bio Essentialism
I'd say that a vast amount of cis people are absolutely guilty of this. Especially self acclaimed "allies"
They parrot the idea that sex is absolutely immutable, and treat transexuality as an identity and not the extensive medical process that it is. A process that includes hormone replacement over the course of YEARS, and sex reassignment surgeries.
There exists no walking definition of "biological sex" that does not in some capacity exclude swaths of cis individuals. Use of the term is simply a more polite version of transphobia and I will not be convinced otherwise
This WITHOUT A DOUBT includes all "Assigned Gender At Birth" language. This is one that "allies" are extremely guilty of.
  1. The rampant fetishization
Trans pornography has surged in popularity in recent years. This is by no means a secret. It's affects can also be seen in memes, media, or other types of internet-what-have-yous. It's frankly fucking gross that an entire demographic of human beings have been reduced to a porn category.
Trans people are constantly treated like perverts and/or sex objects.
The amount of times I've been called "the best of both worlds" in reference to my anatomy is appalling. I am constant reduced to my genitalia, and objectified into a glorified sex toy.

Not only, but the physical harassment I have endured is beyond awful. The amount of times that I've been followed, touched without my permission, and otherwise treated like I "wanted it" by individuals speaks to the true nature of how these people see me.

Because of all of this, I have got a general distrust of most cis individuals. To me, they are a ticking time bomb - some of them being potentially dangerous if they were to clock me. It's exhausting, it's dehumanizing, and it's not getting better.
Tldr: Hey you, cis lurker!!! You probably don't understand transgenderism or transexuality as much as you think you do. If you truly believe you do, I'd say there's a 90% chance you actually don't!
Pink collar berk: a TiF with what must be the most charmed life of all time still finds time to be upset that her lanyard takes on a diminutive shade of red when she had hoped for it to be blue. What would the fairies in Sleeping Beauty say?
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dysphoria around a freaking pink lanyard

this is so stupid i know, but i was looking forward to get my blue school landyard for my id that they always had in the past. but this year they decided to change it to a baby pink one. all of my friends were so excited for the change but i was so upset and i had no clue why. i did some reflection and realised its dysphoria, especially cuz im not out and am nowhere near passing and just can’t stand being categorised as a girl.
i know it’s probably ridiculous but if anyone has any advice or words of wisdom it would be much appreciated 😭🫶
 
Good practice is assume all troon claims of intersexuality are false.
Claiming to be intersex when not actually being, is like it's own whole phenomenon

Yes, it’s a weird thing where agp men get off on pretending they’re intersex and will self diagnose themselves. All part of making the larp more real and exciting. A good tip is that it’s generally troons who refer to themselves as just vaguely “intersex”. People who actually have a dsd will say they have Klinefelter syndrome or whatever.

Re: transvestigators, I think they’re kind of absurd. Admittedly I haven’t spent much time observing them but I’ve been around plenty of troons including well groomed HSTS and it’s always immediately obvious to everyone. They 100% rely on politeness often unknowingly which is why there’s so many posts like above that go “i don’t get it! I’ve been 100% stealth for the past 6 months but today a little kid clocked me! What gives?!” Because children don’t know to observe this social nicety yet.

Posters here insisting that the 5 foot pooner hobbit “passes” makes me question their sanity. Do you think that the GameStop Troon passes?
 
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A good tip is that it’s generally troons who refer to themselves as just vaguely “intersex”. People who actually have a dsd will say they have Klinefelter syndrome or whatever.
There is also the rise in people trying to classify unrelated medical conditions and natural variations as intersex. Eg, POCS. So it's not just troons. Apparently some wanted to classify longer than normal clitorises as intersex yet I never see anyone claiming a guy having a small dick makes him intersex.

babies have died when medical personnel were not alerted that a man with stomach pain was a woman with contractions
When did this happen?
 
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When did this happen?
It was a good while ago, but here's a link to an article (and here is the archive). From what I can tell, it either hasn't recurred frequently enough to merit reporting other cases or it's one of those kinds of stories the press has preferred to keep lesser known out of fear of backlash, but it has happened - and with the "seahorse dad" movement there may be more cases in the future. Truth is often stranger than fiction!

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Hypoclitical: a TiF doesn't want to date other TiFs because it makes her feel gross, but due to the general encouragement of T4T (i.e., transgender people dating other transgender people) she feels pressured into going forward with it anyway. It's always a bit funny when they must taste their own medicine, but I can't abide by anybody being sexually pressured no matter who it is. What a bind...er.
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The thought of having sex with another trans man makes me feel gross, and I feel guilty about it

I see all these posts about how amazing T4T relationships are, and I 100% believe it. I have a trans uncle who is in a T4T relationship with his husband, and their relationship is great. Whenever I start thinking about being in a relationship with another trans guy, though, I end up feeling extremely dysphoric.
Romance, I could definitely do.
I’ve gone on dates with other trans guys before. But sex? It makes me so dysphoric that I get nauseous, especially the thought interacting with his natal genitalia. I think the only way I could have sex with another trans guy was if he had phallo, or if he passed extremely well and only used a prosthetic.
It makes me feel guilty and like I’m missing out on something. I don’t really know how to get over this.
This pooner is so blackpilled, it actually made my day brighter - she's completely convinced that by the grown-but-still-young age of 25 that them's the breaks, and there will never be a tectonic shift in one's life from there on out. I just know whoever wrote this hasn't hit 30 yet... it has that zoomer stink on it.
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"It's Never Too Late"

You know what?
Yes it is. Of course it is.
Obviously anyone with a brain realises HRT is a myth and doesn't work on adults, but the entire concept of older people transitioning is inherently flawed based on the way society operates in general.
By 25 your life is more or less set. Wealth, career, friends, family, partners, kids, hobbies, abilities, looks - whatever. I'm not saying everything is fully realised, but you can certainly tell by that age where everything is heading. If you for example can't make money or find a partner or make friends at 25 - I've got news for you - you never will.
So the idea you can TRANSITION FUCKING GENDERS when you can't even do these smaller things is utterly insane. What, you're just going to change the way your body looks at 30 and make a whole new set of friends and family who accept all of that out of thin air? What in the fuck are you on about.
Now I'm not saying people can't try in life. Sadly the failures among us still have many years to live after we fail so I get why people still try. But thinking it's going to end well really is a total fantasy.
A troon student initially celebrates a coach getting fired for being a right-wing sperg on TikTok only to molt all of his flesh off instantly when everyone rallies around him and calls for the principal who punished him to be fired instead. I have to admit, if you work in healthcare, education or with the government, you are fantastically retarded for spouting off on TikTok these days, but it's funny to see this method of social control weakening in its strength.
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A teacher who was severely right wing got fired

TLDR: Teacher was fired for comparing trans people to school shooters, everyone is on his side, I'm scared of living here
He had been making tiktoks about "Trans Ideology" and stuff like that for who knows how long, he constantly talked about how they were corrupted, and in one of the most recent ones, he compared literally every single trans person to school shooters, and said we all hate Christians
(my thoughts on hating them, is if they hate me first)
I never had him, but hearing about it, I was initially very happy about it, because that's another headache to not have to worry about.
Unfortunately, almost EVERYBODY in the town is on his side, saying that it was an unjustified firing, and that the principle needs to be let go. I saw a few people calling her a DEI hire, which was weird because she's a cishet white woman who's worked there for years.
I've seen incredible amounts of hatred for a woman who's fired someone for comparing people like me to a school shooter.

Some of the comments I've seen include;
"She puts 'Freedom of thought' posters everywhere in school, yet censors stuff like this"
"Fire that child grooming principal right now" she isn't a pedophile, she's just trying to keep people like me safe, frankly I'd trust her with my life, and my education, but nothing more than that
"That coach is far more principled than the principal, and far more valued."
It made me incredibly scared to go to school for my first day of the new school year, even though I've received nothing but support from my teachers.
The principal didn't go about his firing in the best way, telling kids to "keep quiet, and not get into it" (which naturally has the opposite effect) because he was, all things considered, a pretty good gym teacher. So naturally all of the sports kids (most of whom are kind of assholes) are on his side, and are speaking up. It's also being said that she "cornered an autistic student" and told him personally not to speak up (I'm autistic too, although not verified because there's apparently a waiting list that my little brother has been on for 3 years now), although the real reason was because he was one of the sports kids who liked him the most.
I'm scared of living here, even though it would be a perfect town without shit like this happening. All the students are supposed to be quiet about it, but I can't just not say anything, and frankly, I don't know what to do.
Love you all.
 
Posters here insisting that the 5 foot pooner hobbit “passes” makes me question their sanity. Do you think that the GameStop Troon passes?
Pooners dont pass after any real direct interaction or observation, but they do do better than troons. Men and women are different, so why wouldnt troons and pooners be different?
 
Pooners dont pass after any real direct interaction or observation, but they do do better than troons. Men and women are different, so why wouldnt troons and pooners be different?
I've always held that pooners sorta facially pass a little better but they are immediately obvious because of their body frames being so much tinier than actual men (same reason why well groomed HSTS don't pass). Men and women are indeed different, which is why neither convincingly look like the other.
 
My stare may linger if I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at, but it's an automatic reflex to simply know. Have I missed any in passing? Sure, I'm sure I have simply walking by them in a store or in a parking lot, but the second I have to talk to them or focus on them for very long, it's pretty much instantaneous.
People keep forgetting or overlooking, but once again: on the Internet and ITT we're mostly looking at still images, and of those almost always posed/edited/curated still images.

In person or an unedited video, the voice and the mannerisms are what clock a transgender person. That's not a clothes or makeup issue; it's the actions that show who's piloting the meat suit.
 
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It is indeed a combination of traits, but for Noah Ritter the roundness of the forehead is pretty obvious tell, as is being 5'5'' with a frog voice and general softness at 27. Even troons like Narcissa Wright, despite being waifishly thin, still have general facial and body features that clock them. I'm not running around accusing big jawed or slightly muscular women of being men, but I have met two pooners in my office life and both times the second I saw the face it was clear. There are definitely going to be edge cases but Noah Ritter is not one of them, even without hearing her speak.
By the by, this graph makes me realise how many more female skulls I've seen. On the occasions I come across real human skulls. They are basically never male.
Make of that what you will
 
When mom is kind of liberal, but ... 8)
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I (18 AMAB) came out as trans to my mom this mornig because she said she was always supportive of lgbtqia+ people but i guess she was lying.

When I told her i think im trans she said that the whole purpose of transgenderism is to produce child sexual playthings to be used by homosexual adults and that the sexual playthings are trained to unalive themselves when there no longer useful.

I told her shes being hateful and shes just mad because of the news right now but she said the same thing again like an hour later.

What do I say back to her to make her see shes wrong?
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Here's the top comment. 528 upvotes.
It might be hard to convince her if she’s this brainwashed. Maybe bring up the fact there are like 80 year old trans people so what would be her reasoning then.
No self-awareness at all. None. :roll:

A little futher down, OP checks in again.
Okay so I told her and then she said the first thing again, about child sex playthings, and I said to her that they aren't that, and she told me about catamites and bacha bazi again which I already know about and I told her thats not the same but she says it is, what do I say next? I just want this to be over!

Also I showed her this sub and then like a few minutes later she showed me search results for this sub and all the times people talk about killing themselves and suicide and she says it proves it (that dolls are trained to unalive). I said its not the same thing but i need better arguments. Thanks for your help!

Also shes bringing up that the last time she told me about bacha bazi I said I wanted to be one but I told her I changed my mind and it was a joke but she said it just proves her point. What do I say?
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