Active shooter 'guns down TWENTY people at Minneapolis church'

Kiwifarmsname · Aug 29, 2025

VargReallyDidNothingWrong said:
When Colt and Smith & Wesson are openly advertising revolvers in Sears and Roebuck in the US and in newspapers in the United Kingdom, and there are 10+ major manufacturers and hundreds of small gunsmiths making and selling pistols in all of Europe (Belgium, France, what is now Germany and Austria being especially well known), it's incredible you would claim that it's both "not legal" and "not commonplace".

There are more guns in practically every nation right now.

Mad as a Swan · Aug 29, 2025

The Saltening said:
A catholic mom transitioning her minor son is wild. His name was changed when he was like 17 and his mom filed the paperwork.

I've heard that people at the church had issues with priests being "too traditional".

Hhhmmmm

IT NEVER HAPPENS

Ok it happened once JUST ONCE

It happened many times but it's a GOOD THING!

Gregis · Aug 29, 2025

@Null I think @Safir deserves

for the transcription.

Diana Moon Glampers · Aug 29, 2025

If the line they really want to go with is "this guy's a detransitioner and that's why he did it," gee, sure would be cool if your fuckin' cult allowed people to leave without marking them as apostates forever, losing all their friends from the cult, etc.

If people have been brainwashed so hard that they think "death before detransition" is a reasonable statement, you'll see more and more of this as the fad starts to diminish post-crest.

CervixHammer said:
no idea how reliable this guy is, but he's claiming there's a Zizian connection:
View attachment 7847659 (rest of the tweet just summarizes the Zizians. here's the archive)

This guy comes out of the woodwork after literally any happening and claims the phones all illustrate a pattern of conspiracy. He's never turned out to be right about any of the predictions he's made using his supposed database of devices. I think he's probably a schizo.

quarter_grifter · Aug 29, 2025

The Saltening said:
I've heard that people at the church had issues with priests being "too traditional".

Sounds like the people are the issue, not the church or the priests.

Gas Snake · Aug 29, 2025

Two interesting tidbits from this telegraph article from earlier today:

According to Fox 9, James Westman told officers that his son recently “broke up with a significant and/or romantic partner” and had been staying with a friend.
According to Fox News, Ms Westman, 67, has enlisted the services of Ryan Garry, a criminal defence lawyer, who told the outlet: “She is completely distraught about the situation and has no culpability but is seeking an attorney to deal with calls like this.”

The attorney she hired is Minnesota based, not Florida based. Interesting choice, going by this tagline...

https://ryangarry.com/

Mom must be scared of Tim Walz coming to rape her mouth and keep her quiet.

Slav Power · Aug 29, 2025

>mfw English written in Cyrillic

It's like this piece of shit wanted to go out of it's way to be as much of a pain as possible to as many people as possible. Hope the fuckface is boiling in the worst vat of shit available in Gehenna right now.

RomanianSchizo · Aug 29, 2025

MirnaMinkoff said:
I think you’re making a mistake assuming they willingly supported it. He changed his name a few months before his 18th birthday, so they knew it was going to happen regardless of their wishes. I could see a therapist urging them to support his troon nonsense to maintain their relationship because he’s going to do it no matter what when he turns 18.

I think they had a messed up, weird, depressed son who suicide baited and manipulated them into a lot of BS. Eventually they’d go along with anything that might “fix” him. I can just hear the “we just want him to be happy” cliche.

I'm not sure, I could see it going either way. It is confirmed that the mom did sign off on having her minor son change his name, but yeah who knows if it was propaganda that made her do it or if she actually supports trannies. I'm not sure if this was mentioned, but the police chief of Minneapolis said that they haven't been successful in talking to the shooter's mother, which honestly makes me slightly suspicious but who knows maybe she's grieving or something.

Catch The Rainbow said:
Candace Owens calls this a false flag:

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This makes me so angry. Candace Owens proclaims to be a Catholic, yet makes a conspiracy about a horrific shooting that murdered and injured CATHOLICS. No word on her Twitter about praying for the victims, nothing about that - instead she is pushing a conspiratorial agenda. If she hasn't shown her Christian followers who she really is, she has now. Disgusting.

Hooked on phobics · Aug 29, 2025

Super Guido said:
I just remembered the Ginger Male Market Failure song. Not sure if he's a natural redhead, but it fits.

Obligatory

3.14159265359 · Aug 29, 2025

anti SJW said:
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The usual move of the apologists is to cite irrelevant mass shooting data including gang land murders and crimes unrelated to school and church shootings, but it usually doesn't matter as the real trans rate is so low that they can't inflate away the disproprotionate per capita.

These guys get 0.02-0.05% from government data with generous assumptions to maximize the number..

kyskeff · Aug 29, 2025

YouTube Autist said:
23 going on 14.

Looks like he has Marfan Syndrome too. The hands, the face, the bone structure, the build, just a crazy resemblance.

Party Hat Wurmple · Aug 29, 2025

he who has thus come/gone said:
Two reasons: (1) children and weak and defenseless; (2) killing children is innately horrifying and disgusting. They kill children because they're easy targets and because they believe killing kids will create a monument to their notoriety.

In terms of an O9A sense, they target children for one specific reason. Judeo Christian children are the embodiment of evil to them. They're everything they hate. Killing the inheritors of the bloodline is the ultimate form of their Nietzsche style broken mindset.

Children are the ideal targets because children are weakness embodied. They're Christianity embodied. Killing them is an initiation of darkness worthy of fulfilling their criteria to become O9A. In order to become a member of O9A, it's self initiation. You become a member once you've done a horrible misdeed you feel makes you worthy. Doing a school shooting makes you the highest caliber in the Order as they challenge each other. It's not unlike Al Qaeda in that mentality. O9A members like Westman, Hale, and Lanza all are Satanists in the absolute purest form and sense.

he who has thus come/gone said:
These people are sick, aimless, empty husks without souls

It goes further than that. Its a form of self-actualization for them.

kiwirevolving said:
can't these "people" just leave the kids alone?

No. They're Satanists and they despise weakness. Might makes right and purging the weakness in bloodshed is the right thing to do in their minds.

Hopkinsville Goblin said:
I wish these mass shooters would go after people who deserve it instead of kids.

In their mind, they are. They genuinely believe these kids deserve it.

Troo and Honest said:
Yup. It's really obvious that whatever political beliefs this person seems to espouse is just an emergent property of whatever fucked up lunacy they had going on. Think of it like the homeless guy screaming on the street corner about The Jews. Probably not a Nazi, just fucking crazy. Incoherent ramblings like this are the result of a lack of socialization, too much access to the internet, and general misanthropy.

The O9A has no unified philosophy other than Satanism. Everyone involved with O9A believes different things, sometimes things that directly contradict each other. It really doesn't matter to them. Also, hating Israel and Judeo Christian religions. That's why they're called Nazis. Some of them are Nazis. Others just believe the Nazis weren't wrong but don't call themselves Nazis.

Diana Moon Glampers said:
What it really looks like is that a lot of shooters have unstable identities. Instead of recognizing an unstable identity as a serious red flag for potential issues including violence or abuse of others, unstable identities are now enshrined as being inherently true and the world must adjust to them.

They're groomed into it. They're edge lords like every teen but no one ever bothers to drag them out of that edgelord phase. That's a consequence of ever isolating society that places more and more values in parasocial relationships than living in the real world. You can't really fix this death spiral.

SomeMindlessObserver said:
Which is to say that people seeing a connection between Robert Westman <-> 764/O9A might just be doing so due to the aesthetic commonalities shared among these groups: the presence of a demon and satanic references in the journals, vs. all that larp shit the Gen Z creeps are up to.

O9A is less of a cult in the traditional sense and more of a philosophy.

Diana Moon Glampers said:
If people have been brainwashed so hard that they think "death before detransition" is a reasonable statement, you'll see more and more of this as the fad starts to diminish post-crest.

It will never be allowed. Institutional powers exist in the field of Psychology and even if the trans communities fall apart, which they are, these people don't just drop dead. They will always shove this garbage down everyone's throats until people wake up and recognize the trash.

MirnaMinkoff · Aug 29, 2025

anti SJW said:
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I mean that’s utter bullshit, from memory the Georgia and Uvalde shooters were not trannies, if Colorado shooting is the 2021 King Sooper he was some Ali Akbar fuckhead. This list is just Pajeet clickbait nonsense and you’re spreading it.

SomeMindlessObserver said:
Perhaps the commonality here, if any, was Robert's parents transing him earlier on

You’re just making shit up. There’s no indication his “parents transed him” much less early on. His mom wasn’t dressing him as a girl and sending him to elementary school or on TikTok celebrating her “daughter”. His name change occurred months before his 18th birthday.

From the evidence so far he was a typical troubled adolescent who they sent to Catholic school and military academy. If anything porn and the internet “transed” Robert but thanks to current day therapy and social norms his parents were told they needed to affirm and support him being a tranny.

Robert certainly thought he was a terrible victim of a cruel world but it’s stupid to support that delusion. He even claimed he had been “brainwashed into believing he was trans” so nothing is poor Robert’s fault you see. He was a pity wallowing, spoiled, selfish evil psychopath who didn’t want to grow up and wanted the whole world to pay attention to his pain.

The parents did certainly get their reward for supporting and loving their trans daughter tho.

Sledgehammer Lobotomy · Aug 29, 2025

cromit said:
I wish these shooters wouldn’t blow their brains out. They need autopsies so we can figure out what not to do for kids in the future. Thing 1 would be to treat the obvious mental illness instead of getting a court ordered name change, of course.

I feel like not pumping them full of estrogen in their formative years would be a solid start

BigMan13 · Aug 29, 2025

Safir said:
[Transcript of tranny journal] (Thanks for translating that!)

Reading the transcript more, two things stand out to me.

There's a lot of contradiction in how the trannie describes his life. He keeps flipping between "I had a good life" and "I love my family" to "life is suffering", "I am decay", and "I hate all of you". In page 11, he does this in a single sentence, "I had a good life. Fuck you all! Peace. This last day. I am in so much pain. Torment. KILL ME." . While others have said to leave the parents out of this; him taking a fascination to mass murder since 7th grade (13 years old, ~2016), long before trooning was a thing as-is now, and the contradiction in his own writing, it suggests that he was told his life was good when it, in fact, was not, at least from his pre-troon perspective.

Also, the implications not necessarily desirable, his transcript reads, well, it is written in the style of a deeply religious man. He directly quotes Christ a few times, often uses the symbolism of the Christian faith in his writing, and the cadence itself is apocalyptic and revelatory. There's a reasonable understanding that this shooting was an external targeting of Christianity, but it may have been an internal targeting. His far-left, accelerationist, beliefs are obvious, but that doesn't change he also wrote his journal in an undeniably religious way.

Apologies if somebody else already noted these, I'm not reading through a hundred pages to check.

he who has thus come/gone · Aug 29, 2025

MirnaMinkoff said:
You’re just making shit up. There’s no indication his “parents transed him”. His mom wasn’t dressing him as a girl and sending him to elementary or on TikTok celebrating her “daughter”

If your kid comes to you and says they're actually the other gender, and you do anything but get rid of their Internet, take them to a non-affirming psychologist, and try with all your might to remove all influences in their life that contribute to transgenderism, then you're helping to trans your kid.

The mother signed off on a legal document allowing her minor son to change his sex identity. It does not matter if the origin of that transgenderism was Internet grooming or porn. It doesn't matter how Catholic the parents claim to be. What matters is that they helped their son transition instead of doing everything in their power to prevent it.

The best and greatest · Aug 29, 2025

Safir said:
I have had thoughts of mass murder for a long time. I am very conflicted, and writing this journal. I need to get my thoughts out without getting put on a watchlist haha!

What a very serious person. No doubt the rest of this drivel is equally thought-provoking

The News Crews · Aug 29, 2025

Party Hat Wurmple said:
Killing the inheritors of the bloodline is the ultimate form of their Nietzsche style broken mindset.

I said it in the other thread, but I’m so tired of these retards skimming Nietzsche and to a lesser extent max Stirner, then saying “woaw if I kill random children I’ll become da ubermemsch o algo”. If Nietzsche saw them today he’d call them impulsive retards

Lord Of Shit · Aug 29, 2025

Hunter Hearst Helmsley said:
What's the word for using the exact same tactics to try to trick a crazy person into thinking they're sane?

I... don't think one exists.

I also never thought we'd need one, but Clown World needs Clown language.

Also, your analysis is insightful.

Tezcatlipoca · Aug 29, 2025

I don't Intend to derail but has anyone dug into the possible connection between this last shooter and a group calling themselves Purgatory. I know the NLB and O9A angle has been worked through already but this event comes after a string of hoax calls ( at least 10 from Aug 21 to Aug 25 ) were made to a bunch of US Universities. The string of hoaxes caught my attention because initially as it felt like its was a desensitization psyop for first responders. Might be a shit take

Active shooter 'guns down TWENTY people at Minneapolis church'