What conspiracy theories do you believe in? - Put your tinfoil hats on

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Problematic User Forever said:
I'm a fan of "history is bullshit" conspiracy theories.

The recent "revelations" about Roanoke Island and how it turned out the colony wasn't lost but just moved to the island that was known as Croatoan is making me roll my eyes.
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I thought it was given that's what happened anyway, all the clues pointed to it, including joining the Indian tribe that was at Croatoan.
 
ghj123 said:
If OFCOM and OSA are so laughable that their directions could be ignored and nullified in a court of law by a small forum owner, why would MS, Sony and a throng of online games and services push for age verification using face identification, based on the instructions of OFCOM?
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I'd say the big difference is that the big boys like MS and such and a site like this one is that

1) the big companies actually do operate foreign infrastructure. MS for example has O365 servers in netherlands, and iirc UK. If they piss off the europeans or the british, those powers could yoink their infrastructure.

2) the big companies operate products that entail commercial partnerships. A site like KF doesn't have commercial clients that pay for some saas solution that then has to be compliant with that client's local business laws. E.g. there's no kiwifarms cloud email service that sells enterprise licenses to european firms that are subject to european regulatory laws, and so KF wouldn't necessarily need to comply with say, GDPR. When you operate an enterprise software solution, you have to operate it according to the most restrictive market it's going to be sold to (or else you'd need to have multiple versions of the service for each market).

Because of these, the big companies are afraid of this stuff, since they would stand to get cut out of foreign markets where they do have to play ball with local regulatory compliance in order to keep making money.
 
ghj123 said:
If OFCOM and OSA are so laughable that their directions could be ignored and nullified in a court of law by a small forum owner, why would MS, Sony and a throng of online games and services push for age verification using face identification, based on the instructions of OFCOM?
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They have their own reasons for wanting this and are run by people who are part of the larger establishment who all work to similar societal goals and overlap with the government. But in addition to the reasons such as @23iwakura23 listed and others you can probably think of why MS and Google and others want to force you to disclose your identity to them (which is what current approaches to age verification are leaning towards even though it can be done anonymously), I will give you one more you may not.

It creates a barrier to new entrants. Same way OpenAI wanted a wild west when it was still establishing itself but the moment it thought it was on top started approaching the government voluntarily to assist saying that the industry needed regulation. Of course they did it voluntarily - it's in their interests. Regulation is a cost big players pay to keep out competition that can't afford to comply and can be buried in legal fees and gotchas if they try.

An across the board identity / content compliance / age verification is something big players can deduct as a cost of doing business whilst small players like Kiwifarms would spend Null's entire life chasing around to comply with and still never be able to do it. I could write a better version of Reddit next week. By the end of the year I could make it scalable and robust enough to handle massive volumes of users. Complying with OFCOM's regulations just wouldn't be practical for any forum site that is open to the public. Reddit has the money and more importantly the connections and relationship with the State that I do not. Case in point there are far worse things on Reddit than on KiwiFarms - rape fetish sites, female abuse image sharing, pro-pedo argument boards. All sorts of crap. You don't see Reddit at risk of being brought down for non-compliance of regulations. They want the regulations.

Or for another analogy, think of a fever. Body raises the temperature to a point that is uncomfortable for it, but deadly for the bacteria. Same deal - only they see us as the bacteria.
 
Otterly said:
Through what medium? Vacuum (or almost so) between earth and moon.
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Aether, Electric universe, or plan old shuddering of Gravitational waves that are tied between the Moon and Earth.
23iwakura23 said:
I'd say the big difference is that the big boys like MS and such and a site like this one is that

1) the big companies actually do operate foreign infrastructure. MS for example has O365 servers in netherlands, and iirc UK. If they piss off the europeans or the british, those powers could yoink their infrastructure.
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Let me play devil's advocate.
MS are a huge company, the censorship from OFCOM is been attacked by the farms. If MS don't have the leverage to tell the bongs to fuck off and be protected, what chance does the farms have?
23iwakura23 said:
2) the big companies operate products that entail commercial partnerships. A site like KF doesn't have commercial clients that pay for some saas solution that then has to be compliant with that client's local business laws. E.g. there's no kiwifarms cloud email service that sells enterprise licenses to european firms that are subject to european regulatory laws, and so KF wouldn't necessarily need to comply with say, GDPR. When you operate an enterprise software solution, you have to operate it according to the most restrictive market it's going to be sold to (or else you'd need to have multiple versions of the service for each market).
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Which makes the censorship push even more universal. If the UK can force American Tech companies to introduce this law into their ethos, what is to stop them from rolling it out world wide because the infrastructure is already there?

23iwakura23 said:
Because of these, the big companies are afraid of this stuff, since they would stand to get cut out of foreign markets where they do have to play ball with local regulatory compliance in order to keep making money.
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I agree and those big companies will be the enforcers of the censorship amongst their partners and smaller companies that feed into them.

American tech is the hammer, OfCOM the wedge.
 
ghj123 said:
If MS don't have the leverage to tell the bongs to fuck off and be protected, what chance does the farms have?
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The difference is that the foreign governments don't have standing to enforce against KF, while they would against MS. Because MS does have infra inside of UK territory and subject to it's jurisdiction, if MS tried something like this, the foreign governments could shutdown their infrastructure legally.

No company really has the "leverage" to tell the sovereign government of a world power to fuck off on its own territory. The difference in KF and MS, is that KF doesn't operate within the UK's territory in any capacity. MS is subject to the UK in some capacity, while KF isn't, because MS has property that's subject to that government.


ghj123 said:
If the UK can force American Tech companies to introduce this law into their ethos, what is to stop them from rolling it out world wide because the infrastructure is already there?
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For international corporations that do business in foreign markets: there's nothing that can stop them. I wanna say this has been something of a discussion ever since GDPR became a thing too, but with the europeans and not the british. EU and UK have very much been trying to be hostile regulators of tech for quite some time.
 
12345 said:
Speaking of aiming just right: 3I Atlas has a tail after all! It's just that Hubble isn't meant to look for it so it couldn't see it.

It's going to get really close to Mars, then Venus, and when it gets closest to us it's going to be behind the Sun and then it's going to pass by Jupiter. The odd of this pass just happening are astronomically close to 0 especially since they think it's older than our Solar system.
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So basically conveniently close to the plane of the ecliptic, despite supposedly coming from outside the Solar System. Then it manages not to be a threat to the only inhabited planet. Hmm.

Now I'm not saying it's aliens, but. . .
 
ghj123 said:
They wouldn't put the resources into developing, or paying a third-party to handle, an AI face recognition system because one small country demanded it, unless those companies wanted it for data scraping/invasion of privacy reasons.
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It's the opposite. MS, Apple, and google already have the biometric technology (Windows Hello, Apple Face ID, and Google Face Unlock). While diddling children with their EU friends, execs from these companies convinced their pals to mandate it.
 
A nice King Trout video came out recently and it reminded me that mosquitos are a major threat :). Here's the video:
So, beyond the risk that mosquitos can be weaponized by foreign actors they can also be weaponized by nutters. Their potential as means of destruction is actually handicapped in what is described in that video as it attempts to be covert so that there's plausible deniability of it going back to any state actor(s). However terroristic groups, to whom do not care about being covert, could weaponize any number of parasites to be lethal in their own right instead of just a vector for diseases. Imagine mosquitos that produce extremely potent venoms or worse yet can be designed to produce virus particles that can not infect themselves. One idea I've seen, from an old /an/ thread proposed making misfolded prions in mosquitos' stomachs to spread Fatal Familial Insomnia and other prion diseases. Hey look, I'm right under that linked post :)

Mosquitos, ticks and the like should be made extinct for not only the betterment of mankind but also its safety as to not allow such otherwise overlooked vectors of attack to exist. Moscuito delenda est; TMD.
 
melty said:
I saw this exact sentiment somewhere else today, so, maybe you're onto something. I don't personally feel it, but I've had a recurring "something must happen" feeling for years now, and, you know, nothing ever happens. But it could
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I remember in 2019 I read a forum post about someone's wife who felt bad enough about the next year that she told him about it. At the time I brushed it off because I was still a retarded child but when covid was announced and all of the measures that followed it was one of the first things that came to my mind, and I never really forgot about it. Outside of just basic gut feelings I don't think this is the only one - if they haven't been memory holed already there were some posts on imageboards and forums that were pretty eerie in how accurate they were. How they would come around such info I can only guess as to how.
 
Gorion said:
basic gut feelings I don't think this is the only one
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There's an article making the rounds on twitter that basically says that gut feeling are "memories from the future". Haven't gotten around to reading it yet.


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Mr. Racewar1488 said:
Saturn cult worship, death cults, Cube of Saturn. That should get you where you're going.
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Elagabalus, 14 year old troon Emperor of Rome from Syria, worshipped a black stone as part of his cult's rituals. This stone may or may not be the black stone on the kaaba that some Muslim pilgrims kiss.
 
AnOminous said:
So basically conveniently close to the plane of the ecliptic, despite supposedly coming from outside the Solar System. Then it manages not to be a threat to the only inhabited planet. Hmm.

Now I'm not saying it's aliens, but. . .
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Hasn't all the news about this and every other asteroid that's potentially an alien invasion been coming from one crackpot scientist who's claimed like the last five or six asteroids or comets we've had pass through been alien ships too? Sounds like he's just trying to get attention and asspats.
 
PhoBingas said:
Hasn't all the news about this and every other asteroid that's potentially an alien invasion been coming from one crackpot scientist who's claimed like the last five or six asteroids or comets we've had pass through been alien ships too? Sounds like he's just trying to get attention and asspats.
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Avi loeb. He’s a nut.
It’d be fun if it was non-natural, it he’s been banging the same drum for a while.
 
Otterly said:
Avi loeb. He’s a nut.
It’d be fun if it was non-natural, it he’s been banging the same drum for a while.
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What is it, like an Erich von Daniken situation and he's trying to shill books or some unknown streaming platform show on the side or what? If he's just a nutbar sperging about ayys, that might be an almost welcome deviation from the norm.
 
blue gopher snakes said:
This is terrible news for those of us with generalized anxiety. Don’t tell me the constant feelings of impending doom are valid and justified warnings from my future guts!
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Mate, there have been countless seers of the end times since the dawn of the human species, and lo, we have still spread across the face of the earth like a fucking plague. There will always be another war or conflict or disaster on the horizon. Worry about it when it actually arrives.
 
I don't know what happened on 9/11. I don't know if the planes were diverted, if there ever were any planes to begin with (as has been postulated/holograms), if all the passengers were landed in Ohio and their bodies blown up inside a warehouse to ship them back for autopsy in bits and pieces. When I say "I don't know", I mean I don't have opinions on these things at all; it's just a laundry list of stuff that's floating around.

What I do know is that the Pentagon crash smelled off to me from the start. Not something I delved into deeply at the time, not at all, but it just seemed improbable. When I finally did look into it, it awakened in me an utter fascination with plane crashes and aviation in general that has persisted to this day. (Unintended side effect: hand to God,. I can now no longer fall asleep without the voice of Jonathan Aris.)

I've watched and rewatched "Loose Change" and "Painful Questions" and "New Pearl Harbor" and even "9/11 the Great American PSY-OPERA by Alexander 'Ace' Baker" (well, parts of it anyhow) without ever fully ascribing to what they postulated. The video that finally got to me was called something like "Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth", because it was so different from the others. No hysterical accusations, no deep intoning of ominous coincidences, nothing like that at all.

What stood out to me most was the sofa. This gray, generic sofa that looked like it had done hard time in somebody's living room. The people who sat on it to be interviewed weren't glib or slick or polished. They were boring. The sofa was boring. There were no wild-eyed proclamations from these people. They simply sounded tired and defeated. And there were so many of them. One after another after another. Tired, defeated, bewildered, boring.

This sad parade was what finally prompted me to seriously consider that the official story might not be the truth. Like I said, I don't know what did happen. It is not rational to believe some vast web of actors existed at the time, let alone kept such secrets to the present day. I would not go so far as to say I believe 9/11 was an inside job. I do have questions. I don't expect answers.
 
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