🐍 In the Clock Tower KingCobraJFS / Josh Saunders - Amateur musician, YouTube Streamer, wandmaker, and self-proclaimed "sexy goth badboy". Perpetually circling the drain.

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LucienLachance said:
so it's the first thing people go for when they think about a gift or peace offering for him, and he's never not been happy to accept.
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I do recall one time when he got (what I assume) was a genuine fan package. It was maybe 2 years ago. It had a bunch of nice stuff in it, but also a note saying "we didn't send alcohol since you've said you're trying to slow down". Cobes had a bit of an autism moment where he knew he had to express gratitude but also was pretty noticeably angry about being denied alcohol.
 
'Ole Dente said:
If we're being honest, Cobra always drank a lot. His first paycheck was an assortment of energy drinks and Jager, IIRC.

When he lost his job at Wendy's, he worked with Warlord in the dish pit but when that fell through and he was convinced to start his wand business, that's when the deterioration started. He had no schedule, no structure to his day, no NEED to be sober since he could just stay at home and get hammered. He learned that he never needed to work; donations, wand money and government cheques could do just nicely. Ever since, it's been a slow decline where he became more and more depressed, more and more drunk. Wands stopped going out frequently, albums were spaced out more and had less effort or passion applied to them. Less interaction with the world because he never needed to really leave and less people coming to see him because the light in his eyes was dying.

He didn't just lose that job at Wendy's. He lost the social pressure to be sober, to try to act normally, the structure of life that brings some peace. Every step after that moment was a step towards death and the worst part is that Josh knew this, admitted this and embraced it.
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It's sad but true. My feelings about Cobra as a lolcow were very mixed towards the end, i liked him a lot because he was almost this immovable object, you could tune in to to his livestreams at any moment and he was just same ol' Cobes, but at the same time it almost felt like someone at end of life care, the boy didn't have any more ambitions, there was nothing to look foward to, only things to be afraid of (illness, death, being put in a home etc).
 
Shon&Saunders666420 said:
I do agree that conquistadors was where he started going down hill, but I look back at those even now and he still had better motor skills and talked a little faster imo. By the time he moved to the trailer, I think he was fed up with life, he was rarely ever happy there, and he obviously missed the conquistadors very badly.
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his alcoholism, mental and physical decline was already bad at the end when he got kicked out of the conquistadors, Jessica fucking Boyle didn't help his mental state at all. Imagine throwing someone with severe ODD into a small space with a bog hag that always HAS to be right about everything and wants to have it her way or else. Like when she had a full blown sperg because he wanted to use a certain pan and she thought it would be better if he used a different one, so she completely lost it and threatened to hit herself. There should have never been a second or third visit.
 
Bilbo Boglims said:
I have a theory about her denying him. Clint won full custody, she did not even get visitation iirc. The government pretty much stepped in and told her "This is not your child anymore" and if she is anything like her son she probably took that to heart.
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my theory is that she has actual brain damage and over the years has entirely forgotten about clint and cobes. its obvious looking at her shes not all there. who knows what she even knows at this point.
Shon&Saunders666420 said:
What a wholesome picture, it brought tears to my eyes again. You can just see how much love Clint had for Josh.
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thats what i like about clint. yeah he made mistakes but he also tried so hard to take care of cobes. so many other parents would have just dumped their kid off at an orphanage or some shit or abuse them out of anger that they are not normal. but clint tried and i will always respect a man who cares that much about his kid even when the mother isn't involved anymore.
 
I'm late and gay but I've paid my respects to Cobes, too.

I'm not an American so I couldn't get the exact loop pizza, couldn't find any place that had anchovies and garlic butter. It is what it is toobz (farmz?).

For the drink combo, I went with a local cherry liquor and a very gothic (skeletons!) Mango Loco Monster. It was sweet, soft and girly, I think Josh would appreciate it.

Rest in peace, Cobes. You brought a smile to people all over the world.

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Edit: can't seem to get an image working, trying to fix.
Edit2: fixed.
 
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LucienLachance said:
i'm wondering if chris chan's death is going to elicit the same kind of script flip response where everybody suddenly calls him a wholesome artist or whatever
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definitely not. aside from the usual defenders, all i think will come of it is the same general "im gonna miss this" response, if that. chris hasnt been the same sort of funny factory in a decade, id rather watch the old shit anyways
 
the bog connection said:
definitely not. aside from the usual defenders, all i think will come of it is the same general "im gonna miss this" response, if that. chris hasnt been the same sort of funny factory in a decade, id rather watch the old shit anyways
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probably a lot of "i wish he wasnt as much of a retard", "if only borb was better", "i'd care if he didn't fuck his mother" etc etc
 
Ponzo said:
his alcoholism, mental and physical decline was already bad at the end when he got kicked out of the conquistadors, Jessica fucking Boyle didn't help his mental state at all.
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i think the NAL era was way more detrimental to him than we realize, he gained like 40lbs noticeably before and after her, and i'm pretty certain she was kickstarting his drug use into full swing again after he made claims of dropping duster (which, who really knows). he got so much more....slower after her, like his brain was working at half speed, which he wasn't exactly at 100% beforehand anyway.
 
Tetragrammaton said:
thats what i like about clint. yeah he made mistakes but he also tried so hard to take care of cobes. so many other parents would have just dumped their kid off at an orphanage or some shit or abuse them out of anger that they are not normal. but clint tried and i will always respect a man who cares that much about his kid even when the mother isn't involved anymore.
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I'm Team Clint too, for those reasons. I hope he keeps Cobes' channel up as a memorial, and I have no problem with him collecting any YT coin it continues to generate. Note that he hasn't done any ebegging, like starting a GoFundMe for Cobes' final expenses.
 
LucienLachance said:
i think the NAL era was way more detrimental to him than we realize,. he got so much more....slower after her, like his brain was working at half speed, which he wasn't exactly at 100% beforehand anyway.
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IDK if NAL really had any massive effect on him, but I will maintain that around the Christmas a couple of years ago when people started to send him multiple handles of vodka, kratom, and the THC drinks is when he really started to get bad. He always drank, and drank a lot. However, he always drank lots of watered down shit heavily mixed, he even cut his beers. Those handles of vodka kick-started the extremely heavy drinking. He also started drinking so much that he was blacking out and walking around, more than once on camera he fell and you could legitimately hear his head smash and bounce off the concrete and carpet floor. Last time he laid there for like an hour motionless, on stream. I thought for sure he was going to die that night. He also started hanging out with Warlord A LOT. Warlord is a notorious tweaker, and Cobes already smoked meth with him before.

This is what we know because it happened on camera. Cobra stopped streaming almost entirely, it was very rare for the last 2 years. He also stopped talking about and showing warlord almost entirely, because trolls constantly berated him about it. Frequently josh would appear with a big gash on his head suggesting that he again blacked out and fell. His fridge would show signs of being punched, his knuckles would randomly be bloody. There was a lot of stuff happening off-camera. A lot of heavy drinking, and a lot of him stumbling around like braindead ozzy mumbling about trolls and sickos at all hours of the night.
 
Bilbo Boglims said:
I have a theory about her denying him. Clint won full custody, she did not even get visitation iirc. The government pretty much stepped in and told her "This is not your child anymore" and if she is anything like her son she probably took that to heart.
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All we know about her is from Clint and Josh and both of them have always been unreliable narrators.
 
Saw a comment that pointed out that Cobra died on the 34th week of the year, 3rd week of the month, 4th day of the week, at 34 years old. WTF does this mean toobz??
 
The duster thing really gets me. Whoever sent him and instructed him on using duster the first time, (was it actually TarMan?) is a fucking wretch. I hope they die in a fire.

But the saddest and most annoying part is for example, one time he was on Courtney's panel and she was trying to get through to him about how terrible huffing duster is and why he should stop. He either turned his camera off or it was already off, and he ripped a loud ass duster huff just to spite her.

You really couldn't tell him shit lol...

And those faggots that sent him that shit knew it. Die slow, assholes.
 
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