GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[Susanna]

I exclusively use wifi. Wifi 6 is a fucking beast. If i get the chance ill switch to wired, not in my current battlestation setup though. Wifi works well enough in modern day, just make sure its modern.

I do have WiFi 6. If I try to move a folder of small files between my computer and the NAS, it takes twice as long over WiFi. The actual transfer speed is comparable (10gbps over copper, vs about 7gbps over WiFi) if I’m just moving a single big file, but the latency of WiFi is so much greater that actually negotiating the transfer of a folder ends up taking a monumental amount of time. WiFi is usable, I’m not saying it isn’t, but a cable is just better.

 

[StacticShock]

I exclusively use wifi. Wifi 6 is a fucking beast. If i get the chance ill switch to wired, not in my current battlestation setup though. Wifi works well enough in modern day, just make sure its modern.

cable is good for online shooter shit but i'm way too tired of such faggotry.
if i were to online game i would do on fiber.

I do have WiFi 6. If I try to move a folder of small files between my computer and the NAS, it takes twice as long over WiFi. The actual transfer speed is comparable (10gbps over copper, vs about 7gbps over WiFi) if I’m just moving a single big file, but the latency of WiFi is so much greater that actually negotiating the transfer of a folder ends up taking a monumental amount of time. WiFi is usable, I’m not saying it isn’t, but a cable is just better.

update your drivers or go to wifi7, my wifi6 works just fine i'm ordering a second board for the other computer i have.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Yeah no shit cable is better.

 

[WelperHelper99]

cable is good for online shooter shit but i'm way too tired of such faggotry.
if i were to online game i would do on fiber.

My setup just doesn't allow it. The wifi works. I don't get lag or anything playing my games. Cable is optimal, but beggars can't be choosers and all that shit. Such is life

 

[DavidS877]

Wifi 6 should be handily beaten by 5GbE and 10GbE. Especially in cases where there's any contention at all, even worse if you're not able to use the different frequencies for devices of different WiFi generations. WiFi should be dedicated for things that move and use proper cables for other devices. And yes, I'm really fucking annoyed that my Purple Air sensor is WiFi only but still needs power. Setup a Pi 2 feet away to act as its access point and use POE to power both devices.

My setup just doesn't allow it. The wifi works. I don't get lag or anything playing my games. Cable is optimal, but beggars can't be choosers and all that shit. Such is life

I've never lived anywhere where I couldn't run a cable. 10GbE is good for 100m (that's meters) with Cat 6a cables. Although outside should use fiber wherever possible due to induced voltage from lightning and ground potential differences.

 

[hog cranking frog]

If you're clever with OpenRGB you can do useful things. RGB doesn't have to be completely gay rainbow barf. Set it to be off but slowly get redder as your temps go up but very subtle and lowest brightness. Tie the colors to memory or load or fan averages so you can look over and at a glance see shits off the rails. Skies the limit if you realize it's just another device you can programmatically control. I currently have mine just doing a useless circle radius pattern at the lowest brightness so the fans look like they are spinning really slowly.

 

[Susanna]

If you're clever with OpenRGB you can do useful things. RGB doesn't have to be completely gay rainbow barf. Set it to be off but slowly get redder as your temps go up but very subtle and lowest brightness. Tie the colors to memory or load or fan averages so you can look over and at a glance see shits off the rails. Skies the limit if you realize it's just another device you can programmatically control. I currently have mine just doing a useless circle radius pattern at the lowest brightness so the fans look like they are spinning really slowly.

I use an AquaComputer Quadro to control my fan speed based on the water temperature in my loop (because my motherboard doesn't have thermistor pins), and I've got the RGB set to be off except for if there's an issue, like the water temperature is getting above a certain point (indicating an error somewhere), or if the flow rate is too low (indicating a clog), or if the pump/one of the fans reads 0rpm (failed component). Makes the stuff actually useful, if I see the computer blinking red I'll know to open up the software for the quadro so I can check what the problem is.

 

[Fcret]

Newer wifi standards own because the welfare browns around me can't afford them and don't have houses full of Chinese IoT shit flooding the band. Going to 6GHz wifi 6E is like using wifi back in 2004 where the connection consistently performs to spec and is reliable.

It's like white flight but wireless.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Newer wifi standards own because the welfare browns around me can't afford them and don't have houses full of Chinese IoT shit flooding the band. Going to 6GHz wifi 6E is like using wifi back in 2004 where the connection consistently performs to spec and is reliable.

It's like white flight but wireless.

Trump and Congress finalize law that could hurt your Wi-Fi

As we previously wrote, the Senate budget bill pitched by Ted Cruz (R-Texas) called for at least 800 MHz to be auctioned and allowed part of it to be taken from the 6 GHz band that's being used to boost speeds in the new generation of Wi-Fi networks. The House previously voted to exclude the entire 6 GHz band from spectrum auctions but ultimately adopted the Senate's language in a 218-214 vote when it approved the final budget bill on July 3. It was signed into law by President Trump on July 4.

Ted Cruz Wants To Sell Your Wi-Fi to AT&T. This Will Make Your Wi-Fi Suck and Your Mobile Bill Higher.

Now, thanks to Senator Ted Cruz (R-Texas), AT&T and the rest of the wireless industry look like they will get to gobble up half of the 6 GHz band – the spectrum allocated for next-generation Wi-Fi (current home of Wi-Fi 6E and Wi-Fi 7). If this happens, we will end up with Wi-Fi unable to keep up with your home connection, and ultimately slowing to a crawl (as it did when we only had the original Wi-Fi bands available).

The browns are coming to you, wirelessly.

 

[Fcret]

You don't hate Telcos enough.

 

[Prehistoric Jazz]

Hate the telcos, but also hate the fucking monkeys deciding it's ok to go with their plans. Hate is limitless.

 

[George Lucas]

Was doing some window shopping for parts just so I have a idea of what to buy when I get the money, why is it allmost all modern motherboards now have in built WiFi? Dunno, feels kinda weird. Maybe I am just paranoid.

There are non–Wi-Fi boards, but they are usually the lower end boards now. Gaming boards always have Wi-Fi now because Bluetooth and Wi-Fi are integrated. If a motherboard manufacturer wants Bluetooth, they get Wi-Fi and vice versa.

 

[The Ugly One]

I don't feel like running cable through my attic, and WiFi lets me continue to not give a shit.

and something I made on PCPartPicker:

6000 and 7000 Radeons are a step function down from similar GeForces due to how bad FSR and RT are on those cards. On one hand, you'll be fine for years because all games are basically developed for AMD-powered game consoles these days, and the GPU you've got listed there is better than what's in the PS5 Pro, but on the other either 9000 series Radeons or 40/50 series GeForces are a huge, qualitative step up.

 

[George Lucas]

Wi-Fi is perfectly acceptable if you don’t care about latency and have a smaller network.

As you add more devices, it does create a burden on the AP, so everything that's in a fixed location and has an Ethernet port gets wired in my house.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

i'd use ethernet if it wasnt for the fact the stuff to do that is in the living room and my pc is all the way in the back and i dont wanna run a 100+ foot long cable all the way from there to my room just for internet speeds that arent even gonna be that much faster and still be fairly unreliable anyway

 

[The Ugly One]

I like wifi because i can blame it and not middle age for why i suck at video games now

 

[WelperHelper99]

Intel has been bailed out/saved

 

[Fcret]

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Intel has been bailed out/saved

The US doing economic planning and outright picking national champions is an actual nightmare scenario for a lot of the world. This is the sort of thing that the Japanese used to have emergency closed-room meetings about back in the 80s and I imagine there might be similar things happening in Korea, Taiwan, and China right now.

Xi Jinping has to be baffled and probably a little nervous because this is the kind of shit that's simply not in his playbook for dealing with the Americans. This is something he was probably told would never possibly occur and now he has to figure out how to actually deal with it.

 

[Susanna]

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Intel has been bailed out/saved

That's actually very good news. A world where AMD, Apple and Qualcomm are the only major (consumer) processor manufacturers would have been a disaster. AMD and Apple both make great chips, but they're not in direct competition with each other, and don't have the volume to satisfy the market anyway, nor many options to quickly scale up, and Qualcomm only make garbage.

 

[Just Some Other Guy]

Eh, I ran an ethernet cable out to the garage. I have 3d printers setup out there. Wifi from the house was pretty much non existent by the time you got to the garage, so boosters and whatnot aren't going to do shit. Tried a powerline adapter, absolutely sucked. I heard there was some other wireless shit you could do but I just didn't care for it.

1 hole in the rim joist, 1 hole in the garage wall. 30 feet of EMS conduit buried 1 shovel's worth of depth (going to replace it later with a deeper line when we run gas/water out to the garage) = absolutely flawless internet in the garage. It's really easy work and pretty cheap so....yeah in this case just do it. Took like....1 afternoon to do.