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Should be a wild four years.

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Nah. It's not likely to be Newsom. He's started aping Trump's mannerisms and has been absolutely raw-dogged on too many matters by now. Anyone barely competent on the Republican side could set the agenda on him between trying to be a dollar-store Trump with none of the credibility and "How was that barn-burner of a fire management system you got there eh Newsom?"

Realistically, and assuming the party isn't in a complete, 100% achievement in insanity, (Read: Insane even by THEIR standards.) expect a 2008 rerun. It won't be an Obama, Michelle's a lawyer and has spoken a bit too certainly on that in the past so I'm pretty sure she wouldn't want the job even if it was gifted to her on a silver platter, but you'll see some starlet rise seemingly out of nowhere, and they'll try to bury whoever's record as hard as possible. That dark horse run in conjunction with their voodoo spell working and Trump having a complete blowout is their best shot at the polls.
It's going to be Newsom or Kamala, depending on who wins the civil war behind the scenes and if Newsom does not crash and burn beforehand. Note Kamala turned down the governorship of California, which indicates she's in a stronger place behind the scenes than everyone thought.
 
It's going to be Newsom or Kamala, depending on who wins the civil war behind the scenes and if Newsom does not crash and burn beforehand. Note Kamala turned down the governorship of California, which indicates she's in a stronger place behind the scenes than everyone thought.
There is no fucking way in hell Kamala is going to run for president again after getting raped by Trump last November. She lost all of the swing states and the POPULAR VOTE! Her presidential campaign burned through 1.5 billion dollars in 15 weeks and still lost to Trump :story:
 
It's going to be Newsom or Kamala, depending on who wins the civil war behind the scenes and if Newsom does not crash and burn beforehand. Note Kamala turned down the governorship of California, which indicates she's in a stronger place behind the scenes than everyone thought.
Or she’s retarded and THINKS she’s in a stronger position than everyone thinks.
 
There is no fucking way in hell Kamala is going to run for president after getting raped by Trump last November. She lost all of the swing states and the POPULAR VOTE! Her presidential campaign burned through 1.5 billion dollars in 15 weeks and still lost to Trump :story:
It also went a couple hundred MILLION into debt after burning up that Bil and a half.
 
It's going to be Newsom or Kamala, depending on who wins the civil war behind the scenes and if Newsom does not crash and burn beforehand.
Well both would be on the same side of that Dem Civil War. Neo-lib pushovers. You need someone on the actual far left (Kamala is a poser and exposed as much. Said exposure is why she's not liable to be in the running.) if you want the Dem Civil War narrative.
Note Kamala turned down the governorship of California, which indicates she's in a stronger place behind the scenes than everyone thought.
No? She's HATED. Turning down the nomination can easily (Far more likely actually) because she gets her book deal and that's it. GTFO, never come back. Either she quits or gets fired and one retains some dignity and a book deal.
To reinforce the definition of insanity.
Even a delusional schizophrenic can see Kamala was genuinely and uniquely hated among candidates. They'll think it was MAGA hat wearing gremlins grabbing her by the pussy to pleasure the Donald, but they aren't under the impression she was at all liked.
There is no fucking way in hell Kamala is going to run for president after getting raped by trump. She lost all of the swing states and the POPULAR VOTE!
She wasn't raped. No, that would offer her too much pomp and circumstance. Her campaign got taken out back and shot itself twice. No dignity, no pretense, just whacked as simply and as quickly as possible. A Democrat does not lose the popular vote without people having to lose their shit at the gravity of that.
Or she’s retarded and THINKS she’s in a stronger position than everyone thinks.
See above. Option 3. "Kammy, either you quit and get your book deal, or you're fired and we pay Trump royalties for his catchphrase."
 
There is no fucking way in hell Kamala is going to run for president after getting raped by Trump last November. She lost all of the swing states and the POPULAR VOTE! Her presidential campaign burned through 1.5 billion dollars in 15 weeks and still lost to Trump :story:

That and Kamala didn't even one-up anyone on the floor of total loser Democrats. She performed worse than the floor, not even a rung, the goddamn floor.
 
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Remember, immigratin and visas and the like are so miniscule they don't affect the nation?

Remember how immigration can't possibly actually affect you.

Remember how it's a tiny number. A fraction of a fraction?

Well...

Well, fuck you.

By MATTHEW LEE
Updated 3:52 PM CDT, August 21, 2025

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration said Thursday that it is reviewing more than 55 million people who have valid U.S. visas for any violations that could lead to deportation, marking a growing crackdown on foreigners who are even permitted to be in the United States.

In a written answer to a question from The Associated Press, the State Department said all U.S. visa holders, which can include tourists from many countries, are subject to “continuous vetting,” with an eye toward any indication that they could be ineligible for permission to enter or stay in the United States.

Should such information be found, the visa will be revoked, and if the visa holder is in the United States, he or she would be subject to deportation.

Since President Donald Trump took office, his administration has focused on deporting migrants illegally in the United States as well as holders of student and visitor exchange visas. The State Department’s new language suggests that the continual vetting process, which officials acknowledge is time-consuming, is far more widespread and could mean even those approved to be in the U.S. could abruptly see those permissions revoked.

The department said it was looking for indicators of ineligibility, including people staying past the authorized timeframe outlined in a visa, criminal activity, threats to public safety, engaging in any form of terrorist activity or providing support to a terrorist organization.

“We review all available information as part of our vetting, including law enforcement or immigration records or any other information that comes to light after visa issuance indicating a potential ineligibility,” the department said.

The administration has steadily imposed more restrictions and requirements on visa applicants, including requiring them to submit to in-person interviews. The review of all visa holders appears to be a significant expansion of what had initially been a process focused mainly on students who have been involved in what the government perceives as pro-Palestinian or anti-Israel activity.

Officials say the reviews will include all visa holders’ social media accounts, law enforcement and immigration records in their home countries, along with any actionable violations of U.S. law committed while they were in the United States.

“As part of the Trump Administration’s commitment to protect U.S. national security and public safety, since Inauguration Day the State Department has revoked more than twice as many visas, including nearly four times as many student visas, as during the same time period last year,” the State Department said.

The vast majority of foreigners seeking to come to the U.S. require visas, especially those who want to study or work for extended periods. Among the exceptions for short-term tourist or business visits are citizens of the 40 mainly European and Asian countries belonging to the Visa Waiver Program, which grants those nationals a stay of up to three months without having to apply for a visa.

But large swaths of the world — including highly populated countries like China, India, Indonesia, Russia and most of Africa — are not part of the program, meaning their citizens must apply for and receive visas to travel to the United States.

Earlier this week, the department said that since Trump returned to the White House, it has revoked more than 6,000 student visas for overstays and violations of local, state and federal law, the vast majority of which were assault, driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs and support for terrorism.

It said about 4,000 of those 6,000 were due to actual infractions of laws and that approximately 200 to 300 visas were revoked for terrorism-related issues, including providing support for designated terrorist organizations or state sponsors of terrorism.

Can't get Archive to work.

But, for TDRL...

55 million visas will be reviewed.

1/6th of the population.
 
The very fact that there are 55 million foreigners here legally boils my blood. Those are all jobs that can be given to Americans and you're bringing all of the third world to do them!
Fuck paying people the pay they deserve when we can bring tens of millions of nonwhites to drive down the cost of labor. We should execute all of the traitors who brought them to the country

I'm so fucking tired of being treated like a second class citizen in my own country. These foreigners need to go the fuck back where they belong. I don't give any shit how long they've been here for. Deport every paperwork "American"
 
Kids who have emotionally abusive or neglectful mothers have one hell of a time trusting anyone, ever.
I don't know if this is the case for JD Vance but when your friends are a bunch of untrustworthy shitbags growing up it can give you trust issues too.

It takes a lot out of you to be the only person with any sense of loyalty in your friend group only to be given one handful of shit after another.
 
But experts predict looming negative economic and demographic consequences for the United States if the trend persists. Immigrants are a critical work force in many sectors, and the country's reliance on them is growing as more baby boomers retire
I'll vote who ever lets me bayonet the "experts" for a living. Hell I'll do it for free, its a service to the community.
 
So can anyone whose more politically educated then me fill me in on why hillary didnt be vice presedint for 8 years then get a crack at 2016.
As others said, the Clintons and Obama's despise each other plus Sec of State historically is a better springboard to the Presidency and would have given Hillary more real world experience after her loss, given how Hilary always got shot of being "gifted" a NY Senate seat as a bribe for not divorcing Bill during Monicagate.
 
There is no fucking way in hell Kamala is going to run for president again after getting raped by Trump last November. She lost all of the swing states and the POPULAR VOTE! Her presidential campaign burned through 1.5 billion dollars in 15 weeks and still lost to Trump :story:

People, not a lot, but some people, actually believe the narrative of cope that they tried to spin about Kamala 'not having enough time to "build momentum" and "get her message out".

It's fucking ridiculous, because she had over three years as VP to do exactly that, and it was only her incompetence and insufferability that prevented her from using her time as VP as an extended campaign.

Is JD Vance campaigning for POTUS right now? Yes, he absolutely is, and he's killin' it.

The title of Kamala's book was 107 Days, and the entire premise of the book is that she just didn't have enough goshdarned time to run an effective campaign for POTUS. Utter bullshit, because, as was the case with her first POTUS campaign, and her time as VEEP, and her last POTUS campaign, the more people are exposed to her, the less they like her.
 
Why run Kammy again?
No one else available/not wanting to reunion a straight white man plus Kamala finding out that the Democrats CAN'T blackball her out of politics after all given that they need her to collaborate ANY lie filled revisionist history of the Biden administration after Biden's cancer diagnosis got outed after being kept secret like it was.

If Kamala was a pariah, she'd have taken the offer to run for governor of California.
 
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