The Tales of Series

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⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
As someone who owns several Tales games and have dumped no more than 30 mins into a few of them, unable to really click with them and overall feeling like they all look like copy-paste clones? Yeah Arise stands out. It's also dirt cheap on third-party key sites unlike the other entries.

The one with the angsty claw girl is the only one I've really tried putting hours into. Which is like, a good simple entrypoint? I always feel like the other entries look more fun once I'm finally trying to commit to one.
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Symphonia or Abyss.
 
HexFag said:
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Dawn of the New world is not Japan only. I have a Wii copy hanging around. It was alright nothing to write home about it was better than Arise and Zesteria.
 
#1 Hot Sauce of Kiwi Farm said:
Dawn of the New world is not Japan only. I have a Wii copy hanging around. It was alright nothing to write home about it was better than Arise and Zesteria.
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Yeah this chart is pretty dubious and while I have tried searching further into official documentation on sales, the best I could find that the series sold 30m copies total in Feb of 2024.

In other news has anyone else played Tales of Rebirth so far? The English translation has been out for about 7 months at this point. It's one of the weirder entries made by Team Destiny but it's still fun minus the fact that healing is scarce and the only revival spell is proximity based.
 
⋖ cørdion ⋗ said:
As someone who owns several Tales games and have dumped no more than 30 mins into a few of them, unable to really click with them and overall feeling like they all look like copy-paste clones? Yeah Arise stands out. It's also dirt cheap on third-party key sites unlike the other entries.

The one with the angsty claw girl is the only one I've really tried putting hours into. Which is like, a good simple entrypoint? I always feel like the other entries look more fun once I'm finally trying to commit to one.
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Best ones

Symphonia (King Kratos King Zelos Queen Raine aka HAVE HER IN YOUR PARTY AT ALL TIMES THIS IS NOT A JOKE. Sheena is a great character but oh my god she sucks so bad in combat.)
Abyss (Based Emperor Jade)
Vesperia (King Yuri Queen Judith Queen Rita King Raven)
Xillia (Milla motherfucking Maxwell apparently. I need to play them.)
Berseria (BAMF's Velvet, Magilou, and Eizen. Hell they're all great but I don't care about Laphicet)

The rest range from okay to meh to godawful but it also doesn't help that we didn't get half of them and the ones that we did get are all stuck on consoles nobody has anymore. There are 'cameo battles' in each entry which is basically characters from other titles show up and you get to fight them.
 
That reminds me, Graces F had a PC release a few months back. Graces may not have the best story and characters, but it has solid gameplay.
 
Got to final boss in Zesteria. I'm so tired. I just button mashed cutscenes. Fuck the final boss with his gimmick. Stupid.

Looked up how it ends and uhh.......lol. How is the anime?
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
Sheena is a great character but oh my god she sucks so bad in combat.)
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Poor Shenna. It seems the game has it out for her, both in story and gameplay.

What is wrong with Shenna exactly? well, she is a summoner for one. every time she goes overlimit, Shenna can summon spirts with different elements that dose damage to the enemy and buff her allies. Sounds good right? WRONG! In TOS, the only way to reach overlimit is getting hit by the enemy and the limit happens at random. Why focus on summoning when its RNG lottery?

What else can Shenna do? Her weapon (magic cards) are fucking dog shit with the worst melee damage output compared to everyone else's weapons (well, better then Genis and Raine but you not using them for melee dmg are you?). "But her cards have elemental damage so you can focus on enemy weaknesses!" I guess? But it comes a point where enemies stop being weak to elements and the weapons themselves cant be upgraded to be any stronger (some character's get accesses to elemental weapons that are stronger then hers). Her combos are fucking pathetic. No matter what you do, they always have to end with "pyre seal" or whatever its called and pyre seal knocks enemies back when used. that's not something you dont want to do in most cases. I guess you could use "cyclone seal" but that has a charge time and enemies can break out of it or sometimes not outright work. "But Shenna can buff her team!" Use Raine. She can buff AND heal! "She can give her allies elemental buffs." Buffs that only last a few seconds and time that could be used doing damage. "She can debuff enemies!" Again, only last for a few seconds.

So what the fuck is she even good for!? Well, she is fast. The fastest party member in fact. to bad speed doesn't mean anything since the game still moves in 2D. Free run didn't exist until Abyss. If i had to give Shenna one W, is she is pretty good during temple runs. All enemies are weak to a certain element and its still during mid game so her dps is not laughable yet.

Maybe i should do a shenna run at some point, using her instead of Lloyd just to see how it feels.

She is still best girl and i would marry her on the spot.
 
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Gravityqueen4life said:
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Poor Shenna. it seems the game has it out for her, both in story and gameplay.

What is wrong with Shenna exactly? well, she is a summoner for one. every time she goes overlimit, Shenna can summon spirts with different elements that dose damage to the enemy and buff her allies. Sounds good right? WRONG! In TOS, the only way to reach overlimit is getting hit by the enemy and the limit happens at random. Why focus on summoning when its RNG lottery?

What else can Shenna do? Her weapon (magic cards) are fucking dog shit with the worst melee damage output compared to everyone else's weapons (well, better then Genis and Raine but you not using them for melee dmg are you?). "But her cards have elemental damage so you can focus on enemy weaknesses!" I guess? But it comes a point where enemies stop being weak to elements and the weapons themselves cant be upgraded to be any stronger (some character's get accesses to elemental weapons that are stronger then hers). Her combos are fucking pathetic. No matter what you do, they always have to end with "pyro seal" or whatever its called and pyro seal knocks enemies back when used. that's not something you dont want to do in most cases. I guess you could use "cyclone seal" but that has a charge time and enemies can break out of it or sometimes not outright work. "But Shenna can buff her team!" Use Raine. She can buff AND heal! "She can give her allies elemental buffs." Buffs that only last a few seconds and time that could be used doing damage. "She can debuff enemies!" Again, only last for a few seconds.

So what the fuck is she even good for!? Well, she is fast. The fastest party member in fact. to bad speed doesn't mean anything since the game still moves in 2D. Free run didn't exist until Abyss. If i had to give Shenna one W, is she is pretty good during temple runs. All enemies are weak to a certain element and its still during mid game so her dps is not laughable yet.

Maybe i should do a shenna run at some point, using her instead of Lloyd just to see how it feels.
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Sheena SUCKS and so does her great great great descendant Suzu from Phantasia, at least you don't need a massive sidequest to get Sheena. Also if we're talking about Tales of Symphonia Regal is my nigga.

Also Zelos is good too.
 
They lucked out getting Jen Hale to voice her. I still think she and Lloyd work well together but yeah unfortunately she sucks in combat.
That damn Kuchinawa fight......ptsd.

She does get the Hard Hit EX skill though as well as Force Seal and Serpent Seal Pinon.....
 
Replaying Berseria. Good fucking god fuck Wendee Lee for casting that Bonnie lady as Kamoanna.

Looking at the main crew, it's probably the first Tales game where I don't use costumes for them and just keep the default outfits. Aside from Laphicet looking like a rejected choir member turned child slave with Alfalfa hair everyone is fine i guess. Magilou looks best if you use her hatless style with the strand in her face. That and then any outfit works.

Velvet's outfit is as retarded as Kojima's excuses for being horny nipponese man for Quiet not wearing a top....but her clothing really isn't that controversial. I would be curious to see what the soldier she took it from really looked like wearing it but still. It honestly looks like she's wearing a variant of the suits from Cross Ange and biker booty shorts. You can't see up her snatch and she'd devour you if you did anyway. I'm used to her outfit.
 
Scarlett Johansson said:
Replaying Berseria. Good fucking god fuck Wendee Lee for casting that Bonnie lady as Kamoanna.

Looking at the main crew, it's probably the first Tales game where I don't use costumes for them and just keep the default outfits. Aside from Laphicet looking like a rejected choir member turned child slave with Alfalfa hair everyone is fine i guess. Magilou looks best if you use her hatless style with the strand in her face. That and then any outfit works.

Velvet's outfit is as retarded as Kojima's excuses for being horny nipponese man for Quiet not wearing a top....but her clothing really isn't that controversial. I would be curious to see what the soldier she took it from really looked like wearing it but still. It honestly looks like she's wearing a variant of the suits from Cross Ange and biker booty shorts. You can't see up her snatch and she'd devour you if you did anyway. I'm used to her outfit.
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Honestly might try a NG+ run of Berseria, it might be fun even if I don't really get Magilou until a little bit in. Her shooting star attack was really goofy and easy to spam, really wish they just went with how artes worked in previous games.
 
Bandai Namco fucked up and leaked the next remaster four days early :story: Looks like it's going to be Xillia 1 but we have no clue if it's going to be both until Monday. I don't trust Bandai Namco to do both games so just expect Xillia 1. I'll post the full image when the site stops shitting the bed. (Source)
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HexFag said:
Bandai Namco fucked up and leaked the next remaster four days early :story: Looks like it's going to be Xillia 1 but we have no clue if it's going to be both until Monday. I don't trust Bandai Namco to do both games so just expect Xillia 1. I'll post the full image when the site stops shitting the bed. (Source)
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Someone’s getting publicly executed in the office.
Shame that it’s not Abyss though, but it’ll come eventually.
 
HexFag said:
Bandai Namco fucked up and leaked the next remaster four days early :story: Looks like it's going to be Xillia 1 but we have no clue if it's going to be both until Monday. I don't trust Bandai Namco to do both games so just expect Xillia 1. I'll post the full image when the site stops shitting the bed. (Source)
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Xillia 1 was really mid and the only redeeming thing about it was that Xillia 2 was an absolute masterpiece.
 
wtfNeedSignUp said:
Xillia 1 was really mid and the only redeeming thing about it was that Xillia 2 was an absolute masterpiece.
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Well you might have to wait another 7 months because its JUST Xillia 1 (thanks bamco!). I haven't played any of the Xillias yet so I still have this to look forwards too but I can't believe they delayed so long just to not have both games.

Second video gives more details on the remaster. Seems like it's going to be the same deal as the Graces f remaster which is pretty good because the Graces f remaster was very solid on PC. In series DLCs will be in while tie-in DLCs will most likely be out.

Also here's the Key Art
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