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I have LGB and T friends too. They are wonderful people, albeit a little naive sometimes (swallowing leftist propaganda). I want them to thrive and live happy lives. We have to remember the ones featured on this site are the bottom of the barrel.
Then again especially the T among my friends are seriously mentally ill, they stand out in the rainbow crowd like a sore thumb. I see their views as something they desperately cling to to rationalize their delusions. ("I was never happy in my boy body, so I must have a woman brain")
And in a sense, I see telling a friend "you're not a real woman" is like telling someone "you're fat" constantly. It might be true, but you still make someone sad or upset with it. And while I don't support hormones and SRS as a solution to the trans/dysphoria problem, I don't change how this is dealt with when I keep pointing my friends attention to the fact they're "broken".
I can have a critical view on the current state of trans healthcare overall and still be a friend that doesn't have to mention this all the time. My friends are still lovely human beings and I'd hate to see them suffer.
I don't say yes to every delusion the T friends come up with, though. I voice my concerns. But discussing in good faith shouldn't boot you from the group - if it does, you should definitely leave.
If troonery was a conveyor-belt tier working class brainlet thing (I mean those who actually like their job), it wouldn't be nearly as interesting and horrifying phenomenon as it is.
But the working class seems to be somehow more immune to that. I know people with fairly good education and actual observation and critical skills who got deceived. As if sex and gender were the only thing they aren't any rational and critical about (well, sexuality-related things in general are what makes people irrational).

And yeah, there's no point telling a tranny who went all the way and had the amhole installed, that he isn't a woman. Regardless of his regrets or lack thereof and sunk costs, it ain't gonna restore his body and as for the mind, more competent people failed.
I just take it I wasn't there to talk them out of that, I wasn't that important part of their lives, and likely I wouldn't have any power there back then, cos when they went out with it, they were too deep in the delulu.
 
Weird there's been so many mass shootings of schools, churches, and grocery stores with 90 year old black women but never a mass anything for one of the group meet ups for sex pest homosexuals. except for that one club in like 2015 HMMMMMM :thinking:
 
That's what I hear about this place and why I decided to join, I lurked and found some genuinely pretty hateful threads though. Any advice on how to navigate this site for a noob?
Ignore those threads. I regularly come across threads I have no interest in or personally find reprehensible, but that's what happens on a site where anything (legal) is allowed.
 
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I guess, I felt fake when I gave into the cult mentality (not to mention how often I got backstabbed) and I'm still discovering myself and what I stand for, thank you for your advice.

That's what I hear about this place and why I decided to join, I lurked and found some genuinely pretty hateful threads though. Any advice on how to navigate this site for a noob?
Don't go in the Articles & News section and Autistic thunderdome in general and if you do, avoid its threads that are either directly or tangentially woman-related.
 
That's what I hear about this place and why I decided to join, I lurked and found some genuinely pretty hateful threads though. Any advice on how to navigate this site for a noob?
Ignore those threads. I regularly come across threads I have no interest in, but that's what happens on a site where anything (legal) is allowed.
1. HIDE YOUR POWERLEVEL. Keep details about your IRL life that are deeply personal, embarrassing, or may expose your true identity to yourself.
2. If you get called names or slurs, or get negative reaction stickers, don't take it personally. We like to be vulgar and offensive, and break each other's balls.
3. We may have a right-wing bias, but nobody is above criticism. We are equal-opportunity hecklers. Some of our biggest haters have been right-wingers (Nick Rekieta, Nick Fuentes, Ethan Ralph, MTG, just to name a few).
4. Have fun and don't take it too seriously. We're not on some ideological jihad. Think of this site like TMZ or Statler and Waldorf for e-celebs. We're just shitposting retards in the Internet's cheap seats, laughing at the other retards on the field.
 
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And yeah, there's no point telling a tranny who went all the way and had the amhole installed, that he isn't a woman. Regardless of his regrets or lack thereof and sunk costs, it ain't gonna restore his body and as for the mind, more competent people failed.
I just take it I wasn't there to talk them out of that, I wasn't that important part of their lives, and likely I wouldn't have any power there back then, cos when they went out with it, they were too deep in the delulu.
Yep, I'm not a mental health professional, so why spoil my friends moods by making remarks that hurt and achieve nothing.
I can't even fault them for starting to take hormones for their problems, because it is an easy way out - like drugs - and legally acceptable to do too. (Yet still fucks their bodies up like drugs.)
Because the alternative would be hard to do - getting to the root of one's problems. It means actual reflection of oneself, and likely on traumatic and hurtful experiences. Much easier to flee your body by taking the girl juice.

So I just do normal friends things with them. I hope, in a sense, I can be a little anchor of normality in their lives so they don't spiral down the dark side of AGP and lolcowery at some point. I hope I can be there for them if they detrans one day, even though I might be overtly optimistic with this.
The ones I know have actual interests and topics besides their trans-identity though, so thankfully it's easy spending enjoyable time with them.
 
That's what I hear about this place and why I decided to join, I lurked and found some genuinely pretty hateful threads though. Any advice on how to navigate this site for a noob?
Several people have replied to you already, but I want to throw in my two cents as well:

Don't assume that just because we all share a forum, that this place is a monoculture. This place isn't Reddit and you won't be banned for having the "wrong" opinion. People may disagree, but I never see (non-disruptive) disagreement result in a ban, no matter how unpopular the opinion in question is. There are many people from all sorts of different creeds all across the political spectrum that share this site, and reasonable minds both disagree and find common ground quite often in spite of general differences. Not only that, the place covering so many topics across so many boards means that not everyone is in every thread, and everyone casts a certain Venn Diagram over parts of the site relevant to them.

It might seem gauche at a glance to see threads that seem to be straightforwardly hateful, but something that countermands that in its own way is seeing a different hate thread in the exact opposite direction. Even more than that is seeing the people who frequent those opposite threads powing around and finding common sentiment (or at least coexisting, ignoring, and/or not antagonizing one another) in other unrelated threads. After all, most "hate" against a given demographic on this site in my experience tends to describe the general disposition of a group, rather than necessarily being absolute statements about every individual who shares the label, and I think most people here that would be described externally as -ists and bigots are, ironically, readily willing to make exceptions for exceptional people of those groups who break the stereotypes they dislike, or otherwise have positive qualities in spite of them.

Odds are good that if your opinion has at least some logical robustness, there'll be some folks who agree with it and want to talk about it, and something liberating about "anything is okay so long as it's not illegal" is that when people realize that no amount of rattling the cage will let them get rid of the people they disagree with, they learn to not fuck around in threads that have nothing to do with them.

In short, it's how a functioning society should work. We don't have to agree, but we do have to coexist, thus we gradually learn how to do it as frictionlessly as possible.
 
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Today is J.K. Rowling's birthday, and I've seen so many people wish death and violence on her. It's incredible how violence against someone is acceptable if that person is labelled a "TERF."
There’s a quote from one of the HP actors that went along; I have always seen her as caring for the most vulnerable, sadly people seem to disagree on who that might be.

Applies perfectly on the whole terf-tra argument in general.

People overlook the intentions past what their specific kind of activism told them the world is like. This goes both ways in anything, but the trans community is more bound to be agitated since they are all personally invested.

They feel like anyone pushing back in any way is denying them the solution to all their problems. Even if it’s about something more towards the edges, it’s the attempt to keep the line swayed as far away in the “safe” zone.

That’s why there can never be a common ground. One side lets in bad actors in the form of general homophobia, the other refuses to engage with any critique of AGP, DIY, the sports issues, etc. on a reasonable level.

Thats why I treat social issues mostly as entertainment these days.

You can pass laws to spite your “ideological enemies”, but the people will stay here, just annoyed.
 
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So I just do normal friends things with them. I hope, in a sense, I can be a little anchor of normality in their lives so they don't spiral down the dark side of AGP and lolcowery at some point.
I've been backstabbed enough by trannies that I assume that every last one is a ticking time bomb and I'd rather cut them out of my life. Even if they seem stable now, they still give that vibe that if I stop walking on eggshells for just a moment they'll explode that just makes me feel annoyed being around them.

No quarter for trannies. I can't tell you what to do, but be warned. Don't make the mistakes I made.
 
Trannies never were popular. They were forced upon us by our (((overlords))) as a humiliation ritual. It really is the culmination of liberal anti-sexism, anti-racism, anti-homophobia style tolerance. "You shouldn't hate them, they're just different!" People can't change the color of their skin but any man can put on a dress and when you start giving them power over others for doing so (or a means to atone for Original Sin the sin of being a White Male), then this is what you get. AGPs and autists turning into crybullies. Even the libtards like JK Rowling can't ignore the risk they create to society.
Kind of unrelated and over the place, but about the “original sin”;

From time to time there are these shitty thirst trap trends & in a light hearted way it will be a guy joining in.

In classic Twitter fashion, that means performative quotes of “Men ruin everything”, over something this inconsequential.

But, I have noticed about 70% of the time, it’s a white “transbian” behind it.
- Or generally posting something along “male suicides don’t matter”.

Maybe it’s a subconscious way to cope, but it comes off as a pathetic teenage femcel larp.
 
I've been backstabbed enough by trannies that I assume that every last one is a ticking time bomb and I'd rather cut them out of my life. Even if they seem stable now, they still give that vibe that if I stop walking on eggshells for just a moment they'll explode that just makes me feel annoyed being around them.
I've tried to explain this feeling to a normie: imagine your coworker seems nice enough, but they always wear a pro-Scientology t-shirt and they have a sign on their desk saying "ask me about Dianetics."

You feel like an asshole being wary of them as they blithely forward emails and refill the coffee machine, but they've given you a warning.
 
"Do [X], or I'll kill myself!" is emotional blackmail. You are not responsible for someone gakking themselves because you wouldn't humor their delusional fetishes.
In an intimate relationship, this is what is called 'coercive control'. It's fucking gross behaviour by the coercive controller--that is, the person threatening self-harm.

2. If you get called names or slurs, or get negative reaction stickers, don't take it personally. We like to be vulgar and offensive, and break each other's balls.
Also be aware the stickers don't necessarily reflect on you personally. 'Islamic' or 'Lunacy', for example, can mean you quoted or revealed a story/post that was insane, not that your post or opinions itself are insane.

I've been backstabbed enough by trannies that I assume that every last one is a ticking time bomb and I'd rather cut them out of my life. Even if they seem stable now, they still give that vibe that if I stop walking on eggshells for just a moment they'll explode that just makes me feel annoyed being around them.

No quarter for trannies. I can't tell you what to do, but be warned. Don't make the mistakes I made.
I've never been backstabbed by a trannie but I agree: no quarter for trannies. But I'll go one more: no quarter for their fucking enablers, especially the mothers (and sometimes fathers) who trans their children. There are no words for how fucking deplorable, despicable, and demented these degenerates are.

"Basket" of deplorables isn't a good collective noun (sorry not sorry Hillary). Maybe a 'degeneracy' of deplorables.
 
"Do [X], or I'll kill myself!" is emotional blackmail. You are not responsible for someone gakking themselves because you wouldn't humor their delusional fetishes.
In an intimate relationship, this is what is called 'coercive control'. It's fucking gross behaviour by the coercive controller--that is, the person threatening self-harm.

2. If you get called names or slurs, or get negative reaction stickers, don't take it personally. We like to be vulgar and offensive, and break each other's balls.
Also be aware the stickers don't necessarily reflect on you personally. 'Islamic' or 'Lunacy', for example, can mean you quoted or revealed a story/post that was insane, not that your post or opinions itself are insane.

I've been backstabbed enough by trannies that I assume that every last one is a ticking time bomb and I'd rather cut them out of my life. Even if they seem stable now, they still give that vibe that if I stop walking on eggshells for just a moment they'll explode that just makes me feel annoyed being around them.

No quarter for trannies. I can't tell you what to do, but be warned. Don't make the mistakes I made.
I've never been backstabbed by a trannie but I agree: no quarter for trannies. But I'll go one more: no quarter for their fucking enablers, especially the mothers (and sometimes fathers) who trans their children. There are no words for how fucking deplorable, despicable, and demented these degenerates are.

"Basket" of deplorables isn't a good collective noun (sorry not sorry Hillary). Maybe a 'degeneracy' of deplorables.
 
I've been backstabbed enough by trannies that I assume that every last one is a ticking time bomb and I'd rather cut them out of my life. Even if they seem stable now, they still give that vibe that if I stop walking on eggshells for just a moment they'll explode that just makes me feel annoyed being around them.

No quarter for trannies. I can't tell you what to do, but be warned. Don't make the mistakes I made.
100%. I've never met one who didn't replace their sexuality with energy vampirism. Every tranny I've ever encountered morphed into this paradox of a creature- hideous to look at, likely sex-repulsed, alien in its outlook, but also compulsively exhibitionist. Blurting out inappropriate gross personal details just to get a reaction, or trying to get you to ask about its sex life, or getting in your personal space without asking, absorbing some vital essence from violating your boundaries. Very alley flasher vibes.
No wonder troons think Buffalo Bill was offensive; his character makes me think the author met a few trannies.
 
Little do they know, that being mysterious in regards of sexuality while being known and interesting in something else is more powerful in the long run, than oversharing.
Problem is, that, say, artists who troon out, do that because they think their creative potential has been spent, and can only stagnate, repeat themselves and can't surprise or change the world anymore. (I read a lot that first trooning out happens, and then art starts to suck, I think it's the other way. It's just that you get sucky tranny art instead of repetitive or failed attempts at innovation, or straight up nothing)
 
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"Basket" of deplorables isn't a good collective noun (sorry not sorry Hillary). Maybe a 'degeneracy' of deplorables.
"Degenerate" is 1000% the correct word to use here. These people are short-circuiting their biological drives and destroying their own chances at reproduction. Normally it would be fine if they did that on their own but they have to make everyone around them miserable too.
 
I personally think if it wasn't gender dysphoria and was still sex dysphoria that it wouldn't have made things so confusing as to what trans people want. If trans people were people who desired to be the opposite sex then people would have understood it. The problem with gender is that because its so complicated to where it contradicts itself (Wearing dresses are gender affirming for TIMs but wearing dresses doesn't define being a woman) and is based on how the person sees themselves then what is gender then?
Except for the young ones that push for less gatekeeping ("You don't need dysphoria to be trans" trendhopper types) and HSTS, it's all sex dysphoria. The general public understands it as sex dysphoria and even AGP could blend into sex dysphoria (wanting a pussy so bad that the individual laments being born male). They just say "gender" as part of the slow creep, to muddle the debate grounds and push what they can. If they came out of the gate back in 2012/2013 demanding to be treated as the opposite sex in all aspects, this backlash would have came immediately. They first had to retcon the meaning behind that very first question that appeared when you booted up Pokemon Red/Blue in your Game Boy Color:
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They needed to pretend like "boy/man" and "girl/woman" are completely separate ideas from male and female, that they're social roles one can assume rather than biological reality. In the beginning of the 2020's, I definitely saw a lot more troons claiming to be "biologically female", because they mistakenly thought the overton window had been safely pushed enough to claim that ground. But it's all the same stuff. Gender dysphoric is sex dysphoric; It's all people disappointed with the bits that mother nature granted them.
I think the reason that trannies are so into communism is that transgenderism is inherently self destructive. They have to know, on some level, that in the epic communist revolution they're gonna be the first lined up against the wall. The actual working class hates them, they're subversives to the state, all of their cultural momentum is propped up by corporate astroturfing, but they choose communism. This is where the desire for self-annihilation comes in, as they NEED to have a desire to remove fully healthy body parts to be trans. It's not like being gay where you can settle for just having a boyfriend and the meth fisting orgies are clearly an unhealthy extreme, transgenderism IS inseparable from self destruction.
I'm of the belief that they embrace Communism because they see themselves as oppressed. When you think you're the bottom of the totem pole, collectivization becomes far more appealing. Same reason ugly people and autists gravitate towards Communism. They see it as promoting their own standing or well-being.
What other things do the most virulent man hating feminists and the most hardcore violent nationalists agree on? I've even seen tankies talking shit calling it a symptom of bourgeoisie decadence and shit.
It's a word salad, but they're right. What leftists call "bougeoisie decadence" is what normal people call "first world problems". It's the problems of a person with too much time on their hands because all of their basic needs are effortlessly met.
How did trooning become mainstream anyway?
I blame gay rights organizations losing a purpose and social media steadily becoming more widespread. Every sexually-frustrated man that had a fleeting thought about the female dating experience and every shy woman running away from sexual objectification had an outlet and were able to talk to others like themselves. The political action committees weren't going to shutter on their own ("muh jawbs") and they needed new issues to fundraise on. Forcing people to bake cakes wasn't gaining any traction.
Tumblr was where the myspace crowd went after it got nuked in 2010. There is a direct line of progression from emo/scene kid to trannies and genderspecials. The emo song was right about emos being one step below transvastites because they took that next step in the early 2010s.
Disagreed with the first part. There was a great Myspace exodus back in 2009-2010, but it wasn't just to Tumblr. Everyone I knew who wasn't a quirky art hoe went to Facebook and Twitter. Tumblr was definitely the haven for the theater kid crowd, and genderspecials are certainly the evolution of counterculture trends. Punks and goths of the 80's begat skaters and "mall goths" of the 90's, which then begat emo and scene kids of the 00's, which then begat hipsters of the early 2010's. When everyone was getting bored of stomp-clap-hey music, self-aware irony, overgroomed lumberjacks and craft beer, a lot of those same people fell into trannydom (or at least became vocal allies of it).
Just something that's on my mind, but how did the Pacific Northwest become ground zero for trannyism? I know about the faggy Harvey Milk stuff in SF, but not much about Portland and Seattle that would attract troons en-masse even before it went mainstream.
PNW has usually been ahead-of-the-curve on trends. They're quirky, pretentious, intellectually above-average, and they're tolerant to a fault. They're also seen as a mecca by white nationalists, particularly the slick undercut Richard Spencer types, due to the region's notoriety of being white and innovative.
 
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There’s sadly too many people that correlate “being nice” with doing the right thing. You’re not being nice to these people, you’re enabling their delusions. Not everyone is deserving of respect, many of the lolcows are prime examples of shitheads that don’t learn from their mistakes.

Actually doing the right thing is fucking hard, especially when you’re face to face with these zealots. You need to be willing to break eggshells with these people or they’re going to continue marching to their deaths.

They are content with the delusion because it’s fucking easy to live with themselves. That 41% statistic? That’s suicide *attempts* not deaths. The actual death statistic is single digit at most.

For context, I’m pretty fucked up, autism, developmental issues from trauma, alongside mostly other mental illnesses led me to believe I was a troon nearly a decade ago.

I went to one of these “support” groups and two of the troons there decided to tell me about how depressed they were and proceeded to show me their scars like they were fucking badges of honor.

One of the troons was a fucking 60 year old man who abandoned his family to wear dresses in public.

The other was a legit schizophrenic “transbian” that carried around dolls (female dolls, of course) in a bag and thought they were his “ghost family” that spoke to him every night.

Both are still alive today despite “muh depression” and “muh scars.”

Most of this lot are just attention seeking narcissists that won’t break their delusion and will try to emotionally manipulate you for brownie points, they’re either perverts, groomed into this shit, mentally ill or a combination of the three.

There’s not much we can do to help besides calling them out for what they really are and support the people who break themselves out and detransition.

You cannot reason with majority of them, they are ticking timebombs and taking the gamble by associating with them just going to get you caught in the blast radius.
 
PNW has usually been ahead-of-the-curve on trends. They're quirky, pretentious, intellectually above-average, and they're tolerant to a fault. They're also seen as a mecca by white nationalists, particularly the slick undercut Richard Spencer types, due to the region's notoriety of being white and innovative.
Such a shame. I've taken several trips to Montana and it's IMO the most beautiful place on earth.
 
I've been backstabbed enough by trannies that I assume that every last one is a ticking time bomb and I'd rather cut them out of my life. Even if they seem stable now, they still give that vibe that if I stop walking on eggshells for just a moment they'll explode that just makes me feel annoyed being around them.
What I've seen happen a lot is that non-trannies (fucked up in other ways) will tend to bond with trannies just on the mere basis of shared misery, and unfortunately that bond can be a really powerful thing for people in a poor mental state. And while I don't think every single troon is on a mission to groom as many people as possible, even the ones that abstain from that or keep it to themselves will inadvertently end up rubbing off on their friends, especially the autistic types. I don't think I've ever seen anyone bring that up so I may be retarded, but to me transgenderism can be "passively" spread without some elaborate grooming operation involved. That's what really scares me.
 
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