Have any of you shoplifted before? - Who says crime is only considered a "man and minority thing?"

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Have You Ever Shoplifted?


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When I was a teenager, my Dad would take me and my younger sister to one of those mega-malls a couple times a month. If he didn't have enough money to get some of the stuff that we wanted, he would take out a plastic bag and tell us to take anything that we wanted and walk as quickly as we could out of the mall as long as they didn't have one of those anti-theft tags on them. He knew it wasn't a great thing to do, but he has the 'people have done way worse' mentality.

Ayyyyy, my poverty-stricken childhood led my mom to quasi-teaching me how to shoplift as a child. It wasn't a concentrated effort on her part, more of a quiet, learn-through-observation thing. Put a couple things in the bottom of a baby stroller, let the baby "hold" something, combine things into one bag/box, etc. She did all of this in Minecraft btw in the plane of digital existence and not K-Mart in the 20th century.

Related to the thread: I may have lifted a thing or several during my dirt-poor college years, like groceries and bathroom necessities, but around that time, I dumpster-dove, too, and it was awesome. I have a bunch of awesome stuff I got from diving that were unbelievably in good condition: ceramic baking dishes still new in their box, which was slightly damaged on its corner; a stainless-steel colander; Marc Jacobs perfume bottles thrown out because their decorative plastic bottle toppers were damaged; an uncracked full-length mirror. I have other things from my diving days, but I can't quite remember what all I've gotten. I still peruse occasionally. I want to write a guide on dumpster diving. I can understand why it's illegal for safety reasons (hypodermic needles and broken glass, for example, are common), but our global culture is one of waste. Too many things that shouldn't go into the garbage are in the garbage as we speak, losing its value and use because of cultural excess, manufacturing aesthetic issues, etc. That's what drives me crazy.

I could also write a guide on lifting, but I'm not a 10th grade "anarchist" with an urban exploration TikTok account. Now that I'm an old hag, I have ambivalent yet somewhat indifferent feelings regarding lifting as a whole. In the past, I was never 100% against it, probably, of course, due to my financially strained upbringing. I can understand now, at this point in my life, why shoplifting would be indicative of other things, especially antisocial or parasocial issues. However, the economy purposely immobilizes the majority of the working class, and the abovementioned cultures of excess and waste throw out billions of useful products and items every year for retarded reasons. I honestly cannot care that much to be a wagescuck crybaby havin' a freakout because someone, anyone, wants to take a thing from a store. nor do I care enough to wax poetic about it and make rhetorical appeals about how this ultimately affects the economy and our culture at large. I'm not one to be flippant about it ("yeah whatever mannn fuck society's rules"), but I'm also not one to shake my finger at someone for stealing. Stupid teenagers or whatever other shoplifting stereotype/usual suspect have their own lives to live. We live in a society. Take the beam out of thine own eye.
 
Not since I was a teenager. Although I did get caught back then, went through all the drama. Now that I'm grown, I don't do it.
 
Marc Jacobs perfume bottles thrown out because their decorative plastic bottle toppers were damaged; an uncracked full-length mirror. I have other things from my diving days, but I can't quite remember what all I've gotten. I still peruse occasionally. I want to write a guide on dumpster diving. I can understand why it's illegal for safety reasons (hypodermic needles and broken glass, for example, are common), but our global culture is one of waste. Too many things that shouldn't go into the garbage are in the garbage as we speak, losing its value and use because of cultural excess, manufacturing aesthetic issues, etc. That's what drives me crazy.
Hell yeah. Sometimes my dad finds neat stuff people throw away, or were going to throw away. I got a nightstand that matches my grandma's old furniture (that I also took after she passed) and it's fabulous. She had high standards back when that was more common, so her stuff isn't garbage.
 
Working retail was great, because I understood what they do and don't check. I also got friendly with the LP person and they told me what they look for.

Basically just look like an average middle-class person, have good hygiene, walk around like you deserve to be there, and do actually buy something on your way out (just not the thing you really came in for).


Back in the day, a friend of mine in Minecraft would lift meat from the stores, because they didn't make enough money to live, and they couldn't get another job. Just slip it in the bottom of your granny buggy, buy some other stuff, and leave.

Don't lift non-essential items. That's just dickery.
 
I steal every single time I'm at Walmart with the goal being to save 20%. Tips for resisting inflation by niggering:
•Only do this with groceries
•Always use self checkout
•If possible, look for the self checkout line with the laziest looking watcher
•Bring a backpack with a few things in it. Before you start scanning, set your bag on the bagging station, the scale won't snitch you out for the weight being wrong, important for when you slip the expensive items in u scanned
•Do not be nervous, be of the mind frame that you're doing exactly what you're supposed to and your body language won't be a tell.
•Don't be overly concerned with the employee working the self checkout, at worst they're looking for big ticket items getting snagged and at best they don't give a shit.
•If you're particularly about this nigger life, scan and print out the barcode for cheap items, then you can palm the fake barcode and casually scan it while covering the actual item's. I like the one off the single packs of ramen, it feels good to get a gallon of coconut oil for 25¢
•Unless you live in a retard state, it's not illegal to ignore the receipt checker. I have contempt for their job, so I'm bolder about invalidating their presence. Regardless, your stolen items will be hidden in your backpack and they're not going to ask to look inside it. Given, I don't live around niggers and we don't have armed police walking around our store but this has been my experience 100% of the time
•Never steal anything you don't have the money to pay for. This might sound counter intuitive to normies but it means you can always play dumb if caught and pay for the items instead of getting the police involved or banned from that location. If I were in that position I'd just say my bad, got stoned before I came in, don't know how that happened, let me pay for that because I do need it
•It is moral and just to take everything you can from mega corporations. The theoretical future mark-up on prices as a result of increasing the companies product insurance cost does not matter, you're always going to have a 20%-50% off 5-finger coupon. I have done this for 15+ years and never once had an issue
 
Shrink losses get added too the average price, so prices rise for the people not stealing in order to pay for the people who are.

I find the argument that "lol, the corporation is still making money who cares" to be a false one. Because we live in a society friend. Does your one act of corporate sabotage matter in the grand scheme of things? Probably not. But it is still a crack in the armor that is a society where people follow the rules and a society where people do not.

Civilization and anarchy always dance on the edge of a knife. "Who cares" is the argument for Anarchy. But it is Anarchy grabbing the knifes edge assuming civilization isn't just as capable of grabbing it too.

After all, not all low trust societies are Somalia tier. In fact most low trust societies are not. In those societies people who cause problems tend to dissappear mysteriously, or get saddled with overly punitive and public punishments. Or after mysteriously disappearing come back hanging from a lamp post, dead in a ditch or singing the praises of our wonderful society.

Have a care cheering on the destruction of what you have for that cheap bit of consumer product
Prices don't rise because people steal. The amount of money big stores and chains lose by what anyone is shoplifting is negligible.

I used to be against shoplifting, but I read this and it honestly made complete sense to me:
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The idea of people eating/drinking stuff in the store - the actual products from the store, I mean - is weirdly horrifying to me. Even if you’re the type to keep the wrapper so it can be scanned and paid for at the checkout, wtf is wrong with you that you couldn’t wait the fifteen minutes’ shopping time until you’d paid for the item? No idea why it bothers me so much. It just feels really dirty and gluttonous somehow. I’ve never actually seen anyone doing it, but I can absolutely believe it happens regularly. Vile.
A relative of mine used to work as a teacher in an area with a lot of poverty. This relative told me about two brothers who she knew were struggling (they weren't really being taken care of, and some of the teachers started noticing and tried to help).
I think one of them actually told this relative that one of them would go inside the store and stuff himself with food that was easy to eat fast, like muffins, while the other kept an eye out.

It's not always gluttony. I don't think most people would feel good about doing something like that. I think it's likely that there is a lot more poverty around you than you might think. I don't think most poor people are even homeless, but they might not even be able to afford food sometimes.
 
If you are actually desperate for food, most cities have food banks that you can fill out a form at and receive a care package of food, at least monthly if not weekly. You can also look into clothes pantries and other necessities for living, if the town is large enough. If you're stealing for the heck of it though, I guess this is irrelevant.
Honestly, if I ever find myself in a situation where I need food and I don't have money, the last place I'd visit would be a food bank.
Just because I'm desperate for food doesn't mean I'm desperate enough to poison myself. I'd much rather shoplift if it came to that.

Same, I wouldn't intentionally shoplift but at least a couple of times a year I forget to ring up my La Croix on the bottoms of my shopping cart at the self checkout.
I don't care if people steal at self-checkout, and I don't care about their reason for doing it. Since chains and corporations thought they don't value human labour I think it's perfectly fair to do as thou wilt at their machine replacements.
I never use self-checkouts just to help people keep their jobs, but it probably doesn't make much of a difference. I always thought it was retarded of cashiers to show people how to use them, since they're what'll one day take their jobs away.
 
Prices don't rise because people steal. The amount of money big stores and chains lose by what anyone is shoplifting is negligible.

I used to be against shoplifting, but I read this and it honestly made complete sense to me:
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Negligible because you are retarded. The statistics I assume you are citing are "Well, X Corporation has 1 Billion Dollars in Revenue, but shrink cost is like, barely a million dollars bro. Its Negligible bro."

Lets take Kroger as an example now.

Kroger is a major nation wide chain. It has a net REVENUE in 2024 of 2.5 BILLION dollars. Billion with a B. Do you know what their profit margin was? 1.85%.

Which means on the 2.5 Billion Dollars in Sale, after Kroger has paid its salaries, its vendors, its utilities, its taxes and all that other shit, the money that went into the hands of the owners as pure cash was 46 Million dollars. A loss of just a Million dollars in shrink is a huge blow, especially since that 46 million dollar pot isn't going into one hand. Its going into multiple hands. Kroger is a publicly traded common stock company. It goes into thousands of hands.

Which is why a Company like Kroger will immediately axe a store or just not open one if the risk of shrink loss at the location exceeds 2% of net profit. Not net revenue. Net PROFIT. And keep in mind, net profit for Kroger is 1.85% of Revenue. Which is actually very good for a grocery store. Most hover around 1.5%
 
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Negligible because you are retarded. The statistics I assume you are citing are "Well, X Corporation has 1 Billion Dollars in Revenue, but shrink cost is like, barely a million dollars bro. Its Negligible bro."

Lets take Kroger as an example now.

Kroger is a major nation wide chain. It has a net REVENUE in 2024 of 2.5 BILLION dollars. Billion with a B. Do you know what their profit margin was? 1.85%.

Which means on the 2.5 Billion Dollars in Sale, after Kroger has paid its salaries, its vendors, its utilities, its taxes and all that other shit, the money that went into the hands of the owners as pure cash was 46 Million dollars. A loss of just a Million dollars in shrink is a huge blow, especially since that 46 million dollar pot isn't going into one hand. Its going into multiple hands. Kroger is a publicly traded common stock company. It goes into thousands of hands.

Which is why a Company like Kroger will immediately axe a store or just not open one if the risk of shrink loss at the location exceeds 2% of net profit. Not net revenue. Net PROFIT. And keep in mind, net profit for Kroger is 1.85% of Revenue. Which is actually very good for a grocery store. Most hover around 1.5%
It was a company expectation that we bow to the head of the company whenever he deigned to visit our location. I'm actually okay with taking 1/46th of their net profits and the $2.85 that they give to Grandma once a year. Thankfully he never came to mingle with us po'folx, but the higher-ups generally had an attitude that made them very punchable.
 
Negligible because you are retarded. The statistics I assume you are citing are "Well, X Corporation has 1 Billion Dollars in Revenue, but shrink cost is like, barely a million dollars bro. Its Negligible bro."

Lets take Kroger as an example now.

Kroger is a major nation wide chain. It has a net REVENUE in 2024 of 2.5 BILLION dollars. Billion with a B. Do you know what their profit margin was? 1.85%.

Which means on the 2.5 Billion Dollars in Sale, after Kroger has paid its salaries, its vendors, its utilities, its taxes and all that other shit, the money that went into the hands of the owners as pure cash was 46 Million dollars. A loss of just a Million dollars in shrink is a huge blow, especially since that 46 million dollar pot isn't going into one hand. Its going into multiple hands. Kroger is a publicly traded common stock company. It goes into thousands of hands.

Which is why a Company like Kroger will immediately axe a store or just not open one if the risk of shrink loss at the location exceeds 2% of net profit. Not net revenue. Net PROFIT. And keep in mind, net profit for Kroger is 1.85% of Revenue. Which is actually very good for a grocery store. Most hover around 1.5%
If that's the case, I still don't think that should be a deterrent for anyone.
In fact, much better.
The minute a company becomes a corporation, that's when it's a little too big for my liking. If a company is publically traded, I have no sympathy if it loses one or two millions in profit for da shareholdas or (god forbid lol) goes down.

I buy most things at small businesses, and I'd never think of shoplifting from them (I still haven't shoplifted from corpos because I just haven't had the time to educate myself on how to do it, but I'd feel zero remorse).

(The html document I shared a screenshot of also made a lot of compelling arguments for shoplifting, but I can't download it from Session right now, for some reason.)
 
Knowing how kids are, probably the second one.

He was horrible. He used to smash windows and scream "Fuck you!" when his mom was calling him. He always had a baseball bat. He'd hang out with me and my friends and wouldn't go away. He said he wanted to show us something and we went to this abandoned house that looked really nice and said he was gonna smash all the glass in. So we all ran from him. Last I heard he ended up joining the military and straightening out.

Whites who proudly admit to shoplifting in this thread aren't so different than the niggers they hate. If you're going to commit a crime you can come up with a thousand justification for it no matter what the crime is.

It's one thing to steal when you are starving. But if you are stealing Tide to fund your fentanyl habit go fuck yourself. It's harder to do now because most stores lock that stuff up. If you've ever wondered why some ghetto Chinese takeouts sell Tylenol and Tide there you go.
 
Never steal anything you don't have the money to pay for. This might sound counter intuitive to normies but it means you can always play dumb if caught and pay for the items instead of getting the police involved or banned from that location. If I were in that position I'd just say my bad, got stoned before I came in, don't know how that happened, let me pay for that because I do need it
It's not counterintuitive. Every shoplifter who gets caught begs to be allowed to pay for their items to avoid charges. It's the classic shoplifter refrain, second only to "what is you arresting me for".

Edit: And just in case you think you're smart for thinking of this excuse, here's an Indian who thought of it.
 
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It's not counterintuitive. Every shoplifter who gets caught begs to be allowed to pay for their items to avoid charges. It's the classic shoplifter refrain, second only to "what is you arresting me for".
There's also the good old clever "I have a receipt" (dated last week) the flat faced "I changed my mind I don't want it now" (with one leg out the door) and the athletic "I forgot my wallet I'll be right back" (at a brisk pace from across the car park).
That's if they bother talking at all, usually it's a bit more UMMMMMMMURRRRRRR.
 
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