📚 Megathread The Pooner Zoo - A thread for collecting wild Pooners and posting OC Pooners, and anything Pooner related

[The Hoh Rainforest]

Do pooners get jealous of each other or what?

They're women so take a guess.

 

[Not Dr. Evil]

 

[Bob McLearning]

passed somewhat well except for the birthing hips,

That's like saying, "the counterfeit money passed somewhat well except for the neovagina where George Washington's mouth was supposed to be."

 

[Magic Pickle]

Though this pooner's come out of her cage, she's not actually doing just fine: after coming clean about wanting to troon out, OP's husband locked himself away in order to cope with the sheer magnitude of his wife's retardation. This one is unique because for once, it's the wife stealing her husband's clothes! Wishing him the best of luck as a trans widower.
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“Came out” to my cis straight husband​

So this has been an ongoing journey for me. I’ve been trying to figure out if I’m more nonbinary, genderfluid, transmasc, etc. So I’ve been taking it relatively slow and trying things out.
While I didn’t sit him down and explain that I was trying to figure this all out, I wasn’t really hiding it either. He’s watched me completely change my attire to present male. I mean pretty much 95% of my clothes are his old clothes. He sees that I’m binding. Again I didn’t say “hey I bought a binder”, but you can clearly see a difference between me in a binder and not, I leave my binders out in the open, and he’s seen me put on said binder. He sees that I cut pretty much all of my hair off. He even knew that I started going by a more masculine/gender neutral name. I even changed my name on Facebook.
So last night we were just talking about things going on this week and I told him that at my doctor appointment I have this week with a new provider I want to ask them about testosterone. I didn’t even say I was fully starting it. I said I wanted to ask about my options. What would work for me, what exactly my insurance covers, etc. So that I can be more personally informed. He did not take it well. Just kept repeating “I don’t know what you want me to say” and once saying “this is just completely out of the blue”. Then he walked away. Didn’t ask me questions, didn’t really let me explain in more detail, didn’t want to go more in depth of what he was thinking/feeling. I figured he wouldn’t take it all that well and he’d need time to process, but I thought we’d at least have an actual conversation.
Since he walked away I figured I’d give him time to process and let him come to me when he was ready. I sent him a text saying that I was sorry if I hurt him but it just something I’ve been considering and I wanted him to know before my appointment, etc. This was around 10pm. I ended up falling asleep on the couch around 11pm. Woke up at midnight to see he went to bed as well. So I didn’t get to talk to him. He leaves for work before I wake up too. So now I’m going to have to wait all day. Probably won’t be until like 9pm until we see each other again without other people around.
I accepted that if I continued this and decided to fully transition our marriage more than likely would not last, but I truly thought he’d still be supportive as a best friend. Now I’m thinking I’ve lost even that.
I hate that me taking steps to be more comfortable in my own skin is going to make me lose everything.
TLDR: told cis straight husband I wanted to possibly start testosterone and he walked away and shut himself in the bedroom without talking to me about it.

A TiF struggles with dating a red-blooded conventional straight man because he has the audacity to date her, a woman, when she likes to imagine herself more akin to Peter Pan than Wendy. I like that she mentions how often it is that FTMs date regular guys only to realize they ain't shit - you're so close to self awareness, yet so far!
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Fork found in kitchen; my cis boyfriend doesn't see me as a boy​

I titled the post that because I see it happen so often in relationships with trans and cis people.
I guess this could be considered a vent/rant of some kind?
Me (trans man) and my boyfriend (cis) started dating 2 months ago-ish. When we began the literal first thing I said to him was "do you care at all that I'm a Trans man?", he said he didn't care and that he liked me for me. Recently we had a discussion about the hypothetical future. He said he didn't want me to change any "biological parts" when I get surgery, and said he wanted a wife. He said he was uncomfortable at the thought of dating another man, despite me having already told him I was a trans man, finds gay sex disgusting (if he were to do it, he doesn't care about other people doing it as long as he doesn't see) and is grossed out at the thought of touching another man (this is of course his opinion, but it's clear he would be better suited dating a woman). I love him dearly, but it wouldn't be fair to either of us to continue this. He wants something I am not, it wouldn't be fair to deny him love and it wouldn't be fair to me to be something I am not.
We'll be talking later in the week, I just needed to vent/rant, and let other people who are in the same situation that you are not alone. (Literally, it happens so often)

The mortifying ordeal of being known: a FTM who somehow believes she's stealth despite there being literal rumors about her true birth sex comes clean about being a bepronouned blockhead to a coworker. If I were OP, I would worry less about being clocked as a pooner and more about the fact that due to sinus issues, she has a straight up inability to smell anything - including herself - and we all know how stinky TiFs can be!
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Coming out to a coworker made me realise how humiliated I am that I'm trans​

Came out to a coworker today (I'm stealth), I felt pressured to since I think theres a rumour that I'm trans. Coworker was totally lovely about it. But, it really made me realise I'm just so embarassed about it. It was humiliating. I'm getting waves of anxiety. I'm worried it will be awkward. It feels like I massively overshared something weirdly intimate and personal. She also hadn't heard anything about any rumour so I didn't even need to tell her, I dont know if thats more embarassing or less.

A TiF spouts off a rallying cry to her fellow hetty betties: don't put up with guys who don't treat you like you're a precious little princess! Take OP for example, she found herself a big, strong man to help her remodel her home all while referring to her with the totally affirming moniker of "cute guy"! Never settle for less, queens-- er, kings!
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On the matter of dating cis men​

My brothers in Christ, I'm here to talk about the reoccurring posts about cis boyfriends disrespecting their trans boyfriends.
I've seen multiple posts about this in the time I've been in this sub and since we've been talking about transmasc issues lately I wanted to pop in and share my piece and though I'm specifically addressing trans mascs dating cis men, this applies to all of us- fems, mascs, enbies- the whole lot.
If your boyfriend doesn't actually respect your identity leave him. If he can't accept that one day you could be on hrt/have surgery or have different genitals- leave him. Do not put yourself through the heartache of being half ass "accepted" or only loved for parts of your body that may change one day.
As a trans masc myself who's been with all types of people, or a lot at least, I can tell you relationships of any depth feel better when you feel truly seen by the other person.
Boys, let's stop wasting our time, our energy, and heartache on people who don't even see us.
Now that I'm with my partner of a few years (who is a cis man btw) I can't believe so of the behavior and treatment I put up with in the past. This man would do damn near anything for me and I for him. He is currently as we speak, helping me completely remodel my home. He'll drive me to work if I feel too tired to do it myself. If I have a headache, he'll rub my head until I fall asleep.
When we're together he always calls me, "his cute guy" before kissing me. When we first met as causal "friends" off of grindr he said how to address my anatomy and what acts I was comfortable with before we ever did anything. He to this day still asks before doing anything he thinks could make me feel uncomfortable, especially regarding my gender.
We've had talks before about what would happen if I choose to get bottom surgery and how that could effect our relationship and he response has always been something along the lines of, "Obviously it would be different and there would definitely be an adjustment period for us both, but I should never be a reason you don't do something to make yourself comfortable."
I'm sharing this to tell you all I know there is better out there, and you deserve it! I hope for all of us, everyone under the trans umbrella to find a love like I have. To know you are truly seen by your partner as who you see in the mirror looking back at you and that they would always unwaveringly stand for you when faced with scrutiny over your identity.

Nipple-free nitwit: when considering her surgical options to butcher her breasts, a pooner makes the mistake of letting her boyfriend know about her plans to ditch her nipples, to which he declares that if she chooses to forgo keeping nipples that it "might be a deal breaker." She is, of course, devastated - but it's not enough to change her mind, because when lemmings like this are determined to go overboard, they will stop at nothing to take the plunge.
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I think i just ruined my relationship​

Lately I've been looking at top surgery pictures and considering what would be the best options for me, and I'm pretty set on not getting nipple grafts. Even though I'm nowhere near ready for it, I thoight it'd be good to at least know what I want. I told my boyfriend about it and he got all awkward, and said that nipples were an important thing to him and this might be a deal breaker for us. I completely respect his reasonings and Im not expecting him to change his opinion about it, but I'm still so crushed. We haven't explicitly broke up yet, but I know it's coming and I hate that it's over this. We've been together for over 2 years, have our ups and downs but weve always worked through them. I'm just so upset right now I wish I never said anything about it

Fellas, how do you know if people are righteously respecting your true self as a li'l dood or just being polite so you don't have an autistic meltdown in front of everybody? OP wants to know, because the paranoia over being placated is fucking killing her.
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How do I know if people actually see me as a guy or if they're just being polite?​

I guess I pass. Strangers gender me male almost all the time (ftm), but I live in a progressive area so they could just be trying to be nice.
I have some friends that I'm stealth with (or at least, maybe. I am anxious that they know but pretend they don't to be nice). I know one of them thinks I'm a cis guy because he's a bit transphobic and would misgender me if he knew. But he's pretty sheltered on lgbt stuff, so that's not indicative of how well I pass.
I think maybe my other friends do think I'm a cis guy because of some comments like asking if I was going shirtless to something, talking about getting kicked in the balls and other "guy" stuff like it's something relatable, etc, but I can't shake the feeling that they're trying to make me feel better.
For one, I swear I look like a girl. Like, my face just looks so feminine and my body extremely hourglass and my voice makes me want to shrivel up and die. I just can't imagine anyone looking at me and thinking "yep, totally a dude".
How do I know if they actually see me as a guy or if they're just being polite?

A pooner at the tender age of 14 is making plans to commit suicide because her state ruinously declares that mutilation of her adolescent anatomy is unlawful and wicked. Where the hell are OP's parents that she's turning to crossdressing adult strangers online to talk about her desires to end her own life? Especially given that in other subreddits, she's talking about committing fucking blood sacrifices. I swear to God, fertility is granted to the most repulsive of specimens.
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The SB-49 bill in missouri will result in my suicide​

SB-49 or the (Save Adolescents From Experimentation) aka SAFE act is a violent act against trans kids in missouri, Passed in Fall 2023 it bans HRT for minors and restricts access to health insurance for trans adults. This legislation will be the reason I die, I have told my therapist this, she does not understand that gender dysphoria is a mental illness that is cured through gender transition, Trans kids will die because of that bill(and probably already have) I will die because of that bill, Nobody is challenging it. Suicide is the only option i see fit

Lastly, a betrayer of her own sex takes to her soapbox to proselytize against the wickness of radical feminism and how she fears the increasing encroachment of "TIRFism" (trans-inclusive radical feminism - i.e., trannies who are baeddels or otherwise love talking insane amounts of shit about pooners). Go on and bear your teeth, little wannabe wolf; your huffing and puffing can't possibly blow this house down.
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Regarding the popularity of radfems in the trans community​

Posts from all sorts of popular trans subreddits have been coming across my page due to the recent events and I've seen a disturbing amount of trans people defending radical feminism and TIRFism. When did the community get like this? I knew that there was a decent percentage of people who got sucked down that pipeline but wow, the transphobic assumptions and ratios you'll get for calling it out is something else. I've been called a misogynist/MRA/transmisogynist for being against radfems and TIRFS in the past so I'll explain why radical feminism isn't a progressive branch of feminism and why we all need to remember intersectionality.
Radical feminism is built around the idea that men and women are two opposing classes, with women being the most oppressed group. The only real difference between TERFs and TIRFs is where they draw the line on who counts as a woman—TERFs exclude trans women as “inherently dangerous and privileged men” because of biology (bio-essentialism), and TIRFs exclude trans men as “inherently dangerous and privileged men” because of gender identity (gender essentialism) but also sometimes biology as well if they target transitioning trans men.
Their definition of womanhood is based on white womanhood and completely ignores gender identity in non white western cultures and how white women systemically harm men: men of color are brutalized specifically because they’re seen as men. White women are well aware of this power imbalance and have historically weaponized it, accusing men of color of sexual violence to have them killed or brutalized for their benefit (something they would not be privileged enough to command others to do if not for the intersection of BOTH their gender and race). The whole ideology falls apart once you stop centering whiteness and start actually looking at how gender and race play out together in real life. It’s not progressive to embrace conservate non intersectional feminism, it’s just another way to police identity and silence people.
Claiming trans men gain access to male privilege is just regurgitating the TERF talking point that trans men transition to escape misogyny, for some reason members of the community are just repurposing that talking point against us and expecting us to just be quiet and agree with them like they've made some liberating analysis. Life actually got a lot harder for me when I started to publicly identify as a man. Society does not see being a trans man as something to put on a pedestal, and we don't all pass like the strawman people have of us in their imagination. Privilege can't be taken away, and we lose it when people know we're trans. So for any situations where someone knows your medical history or needs to do a background check we lose that privilege (aka in all situations with actual structures of power in society). Maybe talking to someone in a one time situation or passing them on the streets they'll treat you like a man but its actually a lot more difficult to pass as a cishet man than others assume. Its not like we know how to make our speech patterns, tone, and mannerisms masculine immediately when we come out. There is a difference between sociopolitical catagorization and personal identity, and I find that a lot of people are mixing the two together in bad faith to make their arguments.
Also can we stop with the "transmisandry/transandrophobia isn't real because men aren't systemically oppressed", those terms are describing how misogyny and transphobia come together in ways that specifically harm trans men, that's why it's transandro* phobia stop splitting it like trans* androphobia in bad faith when you know exactly what we mean talking about the term.

 

[Chandelier]

One of my pooner cows, who had Discord screenshots leaked of another pooner accusing them of being a gooner (and subsequently being accused of sexual harassment), decided to go the E. Jean Carroll route and say shit like this. No book deals, but she does get a lot of shotacon art for her work.

Correction: this is not an actual man, but the trans version of a male character, one that is the unfortunate subject of many deeply disturbed transmascs. This was supposed to be a CNC fic - consensual non consent - and was a source of 'trauma and healing'. Put this line in the words of an actual man and tell me if that's a normal thing to say.

 

[uwaga! aooga!]

A TiF spouts off a rallying cry to her fellow hetty betties: don't put up with guys who don't treat you like you're a precious little princess! Take OP for example, she found herself a big, strong man to help her remodel her home all while referring to her with the totally affirming moniker of "cute guy"!

That wall of pooner writing was ago obviously written by a grown woman who grew up female and was socialised female and is still female and will never be a man. No male has ever written text like that, no make author could ever write text like that if he tried!

 

[Mad_Dog]

One of my pooner cows, who had Discord screenshots leaked of another pooner accusing them of being a gooner (and subsequently being accused of sexual harassment), decided to go the E. Jean Carroll route and say shit like this. No book deals, but she does get a lot of shotacon art for her work.
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Correction: this is not an actual man, but the trans version of a male character, one that is the unfortunate subject of many deeply disturbed transmascs. This was supposed to be a CNC fic - consensual non consent - and was a source of 'trauma and healing'. Put this line in the words of an actual man and tell me if that's a normal thing to say.

 

[DYLAN ‘DIELAWN’ VOLK]

Now I have to refer to it as "him" or "they" at all times.

Do the time honored mean girl tactic of never referring to her ever unless necessary, pretend she's a ghost. Use her fake name in a mocking tone that isn't too obvious when you absolutely must talk about her to other people but never use it to her face. No eye contact ever. Use talking to a loser at a party they weren't invited to body language. Zero real interaction, zero pronouns. Do it to both, and pit them against each other whenever possible. They absolutely will fight to be top poon.

 

[Comp0site Specter]

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The most hilarious thing about non-binary by far is the fact that not only are they by every statistic women, they are often more stereo-typically women than those that self-identify.

 

[Contra Pozz]

Another fascinating specimen:

 

[Croctopus]

more evidence that this is a gross fetish and not a sexuality capable of reciprocal romance. Decouple trans from gay. This is BDSM plain and simple.


No shit gay guys don’t want to get fucked by a strap. We’re gay, we like dicks. Not you.


But yeah ok, if you want to dip your toes into the gay waters, we all start with SM heavy humiliation play yup. That’s what we do to explore our sexuality with like minded dudes at summer camp and frat parties as awkward teenagers finding our place in the world. Yup.

 

[Hamplanet Fitness]

Another day, another dood trying to get gays to fuck her right in the front hole and being upset when they won't.

 

[scathefire]

Another day, another dood trying to get gays to fuck her right in the front hole and being upset when they won't.

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What woman would enjoy being at an all-male degenerate sex party to begin with? Maybe she thinks she would enjoy it but would most likely end up like that infamous Reddit post where a pooner tried to fit in at a gay orgy but just ended up crying in the bathroom.

 

[Croctopus]

Another day, another dood trying to get gays to fuck her right in the front hole and being upset when they won't.

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This girl doesn’t even say she was invited to Fire Island. She clearly states that collectively all of her friends told her there’s no transgender on Fire Island and she was further advised that the sex parties are not for transgender. What makes her think that she has any business joining a trip like this?

Based on my experience at Fire Island I can guarantee that none of her real gays are going to want to be seen with a girl because then it means most guys won’t want to lounge around naked in front of her, nobody will want to come to their group house to hang out, and fewer invitations to other house parties. There is no amount of ecstasy or cialis that will change that.

This is a perfect example of what’s going on in the gay community right now - trans entitlement to gay male spaces and bodies. Gay people have a few precious venues where females and straight voyeurs aren’t welcome and we can be ourselves without judgement … the pines are one of them. I’m not going to be “inclusive and welcoming” with my sexual partners EVER. Her friends are smart to warn her and not beat around the bush. It’s called having sex, not having gender.

Like bathhouses, pooners also ruined gay camping, which straight people used to not know about if you want another thread to pull on…

 

[Tragi-Chan]

Like bathhouses, pooners also ruined gay camping, which straight people used to not know about if you want another thread to pull on…

We always knew there was a link between gays and camp.

 

[Mellorine]

This is a perfect example of what’s going on in the gay community right now - trans entitlement to gay male spaces and bodies. Gay people have a few precious venues where females and straight voyeurs aren’t welcome and we can be ourselves without judgement … the pines are one of them.

Once upon a time, wombmyn had "MichFest" and nobody learned a damn thing from what happened to it.

 

[Kujo Jotaro]

more evidence that this is a gross fetish and not a sexuality capable of reciprocal romance.

Based on my experience at Fire Island I can guarantee that none of her real gays are going to want to be seen with a girl because then it means most guys won’t want to lounge around naked in front of her, nobody will want to come to their group house to hang out, and fewer invitations to other house parties. There is no amount of ecstasy or cialis that will change that.

Calling pooners fetishists because they invade your (fetishistic) homosexual orgies is not a sympathetic look. No one engaged in an orgy, or in casual hookups with strangers they will never see again, is participating in "reciprocal romance", they're participating in a mutual satisfaction of carnal desire.

For decades gay men campaigned for wide scale acceptance, normalization, and understanding; this is one of the the realities of that push, deal with it.

 

[Magic Pickle]

A pooner's gooner girl pal showed her what constitutes as "proper yaoi" for the kids these days - biological male on TiF - and has a new reason to feel like shit about herself. If you're going to go to the trouble of fetishizing homosexual relationships, why make it heterosexual anyway? Then again, female fandom spaces certainly deliver some... unique perspectives on female sexuality as a whole, to put it lightly.
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[DYSPHORIA TRIGGER] Is it weird that being fetishized gave me a type of dysphoria I’ve never had before?​

I was in a situation recently, where someone I knew (cis women) had been showing me content that fetishized trans men, specifically the fact that they are born with female genitalia. I won’t really be more into it because it isn’t necessary, but to summarize. She hasn’t stopped, she only consumes m/m content when one of them is trans, she does have a fetish for trans ftms, and she shows me it constantly.
But that’s not really what I’m wondering about obviously. I’ve never experienced bottom dysphoria before, but recently after I’ve come to terms with what’s going on with her, I’ve started feeling more bottom dysphoria. I didn’t think that you could get dysphoria so I’m kind of confused. It may be that I had a small amount of it, then feeling feminized made the small amount of pre-existing bottom dysphoria feel even worse. But I really don’t know, since I’ve only ever experienced chest dysphoria, but the new feeling is the same one that I feel about my chest, just in a different place now.
I feel absolutely terrible, and now I can’t escape from the feeling of femininity. I hate it and I just don’t know what to do. I feel ashamed and upset that this happened, and that it is still ongoing.
If there is something wrong with how this is tagged please let me know!

Another example of a FTM (fujoshi to "male"): OP is annoyed that she's been rightfully addressed as the entity that she is - a gender-nonconforming heterosexual woman. As is usual for pronoun people of this particularity, she takes to Reddit to find support from her fellow doodz, trying to pretend she isn't bothered by flippantly remarking "sorry for wanting to see other gay people in fiction I guess?" Spare me the superiority, sister; let's not pretend works like Red, White and Royal Blue are remotely accurate in comparison to Queer As Folk or even your average Tom of Finland scribble.
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Apparently only straight women read boy love lol​

I can’t be the only person whose heard this, I’m pretty sure it’s a common sentiment
I’ve got this coworker (who’s genderfluid) that is pretty supportive, but recently started misgendering me more often. Whatever, idrc. He said he was going to read some BL and I, someone with no sense of sarcasm, said I could recommend him some good gay western comics. He said, basically, ‘of course you’d say that, you’re basically a straight woman.’ Like huh?? What??? It’s always friendly fire when people say stuff like that I’ve noticed.
Even as an exclusive top, who doesn’t use their biology, who’s been on T for years, gay men still try to gate-keep me out of the community. So remember, if someone ever tells you you’re not gay because you’re a trans man, it’s not because you don’t ‘pass’. They’ll say that no matter what lol
Also funnily timed with the other post on here about yuri and yaoi, that’s probably why he’s so adamantly against reading BL. Sorry for wanting to see other gay people in fiction I guess?
(Let me know if this is the wrong sub, I didn’t think this post was super negative but yknow).

Abstinence makes the heart grow fonder: a "gay trans guy" wistfully reflects on the loneliness born of her choice to mutilate herself to become an off-putting fascimile of the male form. Every time I see pooners complain about this, I think of all the visually unappealing women I've come across in my life followed by a gaggle of homely (yet seemingly well-loved) babies and their beastly beaus in tow, and I wonder: are you actually having trouble finding a date, or are you having trouble finding a date because you think you're in a position to have any sort of standards? Because you're not exactly first pick for the Henry Cavills or the Jensen Ackleses of the world.
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On t and happy but I miss men being interested in me​

That's all. I miss feeling like i can find a guy who'll like me back as i am. I wish i could be a good looking woman, because being a gay trans guy just feels a little shitty, like I got all the wrong parts and it makes me feel a little unlovable. But I'm not a woman, and I tried that for long enough to know it.

Ignorance is bliss: a pooner resents the price of increased visibility, which seems to be something TiFs resent hate more than their troon counterparts. At least out-and-proud trannies of the Dylan Mulvaney breed can get some "yaaaas girls" from handmaidens and homosexual hombres alike, but nobody wants to hang out with a squat little gnome that sounds like an anime voice actor with perpetual bronchitis.
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Can people just go back to being clueless again, please?​

I really truly miss the times when people didn't know what transgenderism was. When they'd look at me and think "oh that is probably a guy with hormone issues" rather than "oh that's a woman who mutilated herself to become a man" because now that they're more "educated" by the media, they can spot us sometimes, and they have new, "more educated" sounding rhetoric to try and invalidate our existence. Please just stay clueless and leave me exist in peace...

Natural instinct is hunting this young TiF with a bow and arrow and deadly accurate precision: without treatment, she feels an urge that most human beings experience at some point but is unsure what to make of it, hoping that her desires to be a wife and mother will dissipate once she starts tampering with biology. She even states that she has no interest in being a "seahorse dad" - she specifically wants to be a mama and a missus. How interesting!
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Why do I still wish to be a mom sometimes?​

I have legit no idea what to flair this because I’m just going to go on a rant and I’m wondering if any trans guys feel the same
I’m aware being a “seahorse dad”, as some people say it, is a thing. But that’s not what I mean here
Is this a hormones thing? I feel this way so weirdly often which is specifically weird because a good 80 to 90% of the time I’m perfectly content with the “I just want to be a guy and be perceived as a guy” yet sometimes I just feel like “must continue bloodline”
I’m pre T so maybe this will just go away if I don’t have a body full of more estrogen vs testosterone. But way too often for my liking I have a weird fantasy of being someone’s wife and being a mother and like, if it’s just a pre T thing then great, it’ll go away
But if it isn’t then I’m just confused??? I definitely don’t really want kids long term, I don’t have the patience for them and the idea of being a guy in love with another guy is really appealing to me, and whenever I have a fantasy like this I’m specifically a mom. Not a trans dad whose just carrying the kid
I’m probably very sloppy since I’m writing this so late but I’m just so confused does anyone relate or am I just weird and shouldn’t have access to Reddit right now?

Speaking of those "seahorse dads", enjoy a few stories in which it becomes clear that cryptic pregnancies seem to be more common in FTMs than in regular women, which is likely why they keep having testosterone-poisoned tadpoles spawning from their uterine ponds. Farmers with little farmhands of your own, try not to get too MATI about these posts.

A TiF whose baby wound up in the NICU is struggling with how to adjust to life as a... erm, "father", and fears that she isn't measuring up. One commenter gives her reassurance to "don't sweat the "bonding" thing overmuch", especially when it comes to visiting. As of posting, it is July, and her baby was born in January of 2025, so her baby is likely still hospitalized as I write this. But yeah, no, don't sweat it, it's not like they remember the first six months of their lives, right? No big, dood!
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Cryptic pregnancy​

Hi, so I had a cryptic pregnancy. I had a premie baby on the 29th of June and he's gonna be in the neonatal unit until August. I'm trying to adjust to the idea that im gonna be a dad and I'm so lost on what to do with myself. I'm visiting every day and I'm so exhausted from it. Any and all advice would be appreciated.

OP here is one of the rare women who speculates that her testosterone abuse may impact her baby, but other cultists are quick to placate her with flippant lines like "Your baby will be perfect. Maybe a little more muscular than the average kid, but ya know, that's fine." One particularly abject piece of shit has the audacity to claim "even if there IS a correlation, it is no reason to treat testosterone-while-pregnant like it’s irresponsible. there are plenty of healthy (or relatively healthy) intersex people out there; i’m one of them. it’s a possibility worth preparing for, like the possibility that your kid might be disabled, trans, or gay."; another one ignorantly states "There isn't a case where defects of a baby were related to T."
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So. I didn't go off T​

I had a cryptic pregnancy and I didn't go off T (obviously). I'm nearly two years on T and I've just had a baby and I haven't missed a single day of my testosterone. I feel insanely lucky to have been able to do this. But I also feel insanely guilty. Because what if this hurt my baby? What if he has something wrong with him because of me?? Just. Ugh.

This sorry tale is one that makes my heart hurt for the little lad born to this particular TiF, as she has regularly pumped herself with steroids, imbibed alcohol and smoked cigarettes during his most vital gestational periods because she's a fucking retard who assumed no period = no fertility. At least she feels some degree of guilt about this, but unfortunately the future does not bode well for what will likely be a particularly slow boy born too early with the smoothest philtrum in the world.
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Cryptic pregnancy and testosterone exposure/ 26 weeks​

Not sure how to start this or what i’m even looking for but I’d like to get it off my chest.
I’m 26 weeks pregnant, and did not find out until 24 weeks- obviously, this was an unplanned pregnancy. I’ve been on T for 3 1/2 years, my partner and I have wanted to start a family but that wasn’t something we were planning on anytime soon. I’ve always been a pretty short and skinny guy along with being physically active.
Wasn’t until the end of december that I noticed some physical changes, my partner and I assumed due to the harsh winter weather here in the midwest that I was gaining a few pounds from not going out as much and just sitting at home eating. Then during new years, i started feeling what i now know was kicking. Took a test, came back positive.
I’ve stopped drinking, haven’t done another T-shot and immediately started booking appointments. Today we went and met with an OBGYN along with a high-risk pregnancy specialist. Got a detailed ultrasound done, and so far baby looks good, and healthy for their gestational age, and found out they are a boy. The gender is one of the main worrying factors my OB has, while the Ultrasound showed male presenting genitalia, they are still running an NIPT to rule everything out for sure.
I’m in a complete whirlpool of emotions and thoughts. On one hand I am excited for this baby, they are so active now, constantly moving around, I was mesmerized watching them on the screen this morning, I can barely believe this little guy is growing inside me. But for every positive emotion, I’ve got just as many negative and worrying ones.
I feel extreme guilt over this conception, I never planned on still being on T, especially this far in, I’m a regular drinker and smoker. The past 6 months i’ve gone out, got drunk, probably been way too risk-taking, took no prenatal supplements, have done nothing to prepare physically for this pregnancy. I’m trying to give myself grace, I genuinely had no fucking idea, no symptoms whatsoever until I gained maybe 2 pounds and started experiencing kicking. I feel like a fucking idiot and a failure of a father already.
My partner and I are now rushing the clock to prepare financially, moving, changing around our entire lives so we can be ready by the end of April. I’m so stressed, trying to juggle getting every possible doctor appointment I can set up, figuring out how paternity leave is going to work, etc.
We’re having this baby, we are on the same page and both excited but filled with so much dread. Besides my partner I have no one I can really talk about all of this with. I don’t even want to get into the dysphoria aspect, that’s an entirely different hellhole.
I really don’t know what i’m looking for, but if someone else had an unplanned pregnancy while still on T, or even just a history with finding out so late I’d love to hear how everything went for you.

 

[KifflomKween]

I don't get it how pregnancy doesn't make these lunatics dysphoric. Or is this something their porn rotted brain likes because of fujoshi porn?

 

[Apustajan apustaja]

Another fascinating specimen:https://youtube.com/watch?v=Tlf9sxkFH9Q

>Yeah my dad's a lawyer so I know better than to talk to you without one present.
>So anyway I committed this murder and here is how it was premeditated.

Really dumb specimen.