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Should be a wild four years.

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See its weird for me because my liberal friends on instagram are all blowing up with pictures of Trump and Epstein and adding "child rapist" (don't ask why libs refuse to say "pedophile") to the "nazi" and "x34 convicted felon" claims
Well of course they are, they're Team Blue. If it wasn't this, it would be something else, they don't care, of course they're going to bring up shit from ten years ago as if it's a stunningly new revelation. They've been calling him a rapist and felon forever at this point, no one outside their circles cares because they're literally the Boy Who Cried Wolf. Just like the doomer brigade has become.

Look, I'm sure Trump wanted to release all of the relevant Epstein files, they were probably destroyed years ago and it's not like the FBI is going to have paperwork and notes saying that they destroyed everything. Just ones saying "Darn, nothing incriminating was found on Epstein's Island." That's why it was phrased as "There's no evidence of these things." Because there isn't any any more. And if there is, the FBI doesn't have it. Which is a separate issue from Bondi fucking things up.
 
It’s neutral at worst. China has nukes too. So does North Korea. You only care about Iran because it threatens the country and people you are ACTUALLY loyal to.

Having the weapons does not necessitate that they have the means to deliver them either. Even if they did, I still wouldn’t care because Iran is not stupid enough to try to nuke the US and give justification of total war to a bloodthirsty giant.
US also tried to stop North Korea for having nukes.

love how you cucks always go for the "You want a fundamentalist state run by death cultists that says Death to America constantly, is responsible for the deaths of nearly a thousand US soldiers, and has sent assassins to kill targets in the US to not have nukes? ISRAEL SIMP"

I’m sure Bibi was as honest and honorable 6 years ago as he is now. Even if he did care about exposing that, I don’t believe it would be for any reason other than damaging his political opponents since Epstein is tied more to them than himself. I’m sure that his legal problems at the time (still ongoing) had nothing to do with it either.

Do you honestly expect me to believe that Bibi has any investment into uncovering Epstein other than using it as a petty, self-serving, political tool?
you went from "Israel probably only went for the ceasefire because of an agreement with the epstein files" to "Bibi doesn't ACTUALLY care about epstein files" with no self awareness lmao

Obviously not to the same degree it was when the gulf countries were invading, much of Yemen's population was on the brink of starvation and hundreds of thousands of people died.
interesting how you suddenly acknowledged there's nuance but before you were screeching about muh blockade blocking everything

This is just pathetic at this point. Find a new dishonest angle to try. Trying to equate the houthis to ISIS or Al-Qaeda is hilariously retarded. You quoted me saying I wasn't defending them and are now just ignoring that part of the conversation because you have nothing.
you were the one who brought up ISIS retard. i know it's hard for your /pol/ refugee brain to realize this but the houthi are agents of Iranian imperialism and will kill anyone who disagrees

Yes, the houthis used up their stockpiled missiles and have built their own replacements with some critical components smuggled in from Iran, thats all true, but the initial replies that got this conversation going were to my post about the early stages of the Yemeni civil war when the Saudis and the United Arab Emirates were directly involved.
severe cope, you were clearly not talking about the early stages of the Yemeni civil war when you said

The Yemeni Army operates Tochka(Scarab), Elbrus(Scud), and Luna(Frog-7) surface to surface missiles. All are quite old and aquired from the soviets as you can tell by the nato reporting name in parentheses.

bringing up the civil war when the topic is the current war is also a dumb gotcha
 
Can I be honest? I don't think 10 percent of the US population would go into rebellion. you realize "Biden" could have just called in the national guard to settle most of it, and all they end up doing is doing bombings or random shootings. no actual rebellion could ever occur.

What would, seriously, think would happen if trump died that day
10 percent of the population who is armed and knows guerilla warfare, and is likely forklift certified and can basically shut down transit and therefore the cities.

It only takes one guy to kill an insurance exec and change their policies. And if you have thousands of them who have lost all faith in democracy?
 
Guerrila warfare rebellion against the government doesn't just require being pissed at the government but also some kind of apparent weakness in the security forces. It's hard to imagine right-wing Americans truly popping off in this day and age because the government hasn't hesitated to smack them down any time they do so in any of our lifetimes. This is in contrast to leftoids who are often allowed to riot in cities unimpeded, the Floydening being the most prominent recent example. Since they never really feel the whip, they are always ready to chimp. Conservatives don't chimp since they know the whip is right there. You could call it learned helplessness or you could call it awareness of a genuine threat.
 
Can I be honest? I don't think 10 percent of the US population would go into rebellion. you realize "Biden" could have just called in the national guard to settle most of it, and all they end up doing is doing bombings or random shootings. no actual rebellion could ever occur.

What would, seriously, think would happen if trump died that day
They would more likely just give up and stop working. They would be disheartened and feel the American dream is a lie and God is dead.
 
Guerrila warfare rebellion against the government doesn't just require being pissed at the government but also some kind of apparent weakness in the security forces. It's hard to imagine right-wing Americans truly popping off in this day and age because the government hasn't hesitated to smack them down any time they do so in any of our lifetimes. This is in contrast to leftoids who are often allowed to riot in cities unimpeded, the Floydening being the most prominent recent example. Since they never really feel the whip, they are always ready to chimp. Conservatives don't chimp since they know the whip is right there. You could call it learned helplessness or you could call it awareness of a genuine threat.
It's because Conservatives know that a complete collapse of society would be very bad, unless they have deemed it to have already collapsed
 
you were the one who brought up ISIS retard. i know it's hard for your /pol/ refugee brain to realize this but the houthi are agents of Iranian imperialism and will kill anyone who disagrees
Obviously I brought up ISIS retard, my initial post was comparing Zaydis to wahhabis. I am also not a /pol/ refugee you weirdo, if you bothered reading any of my posts instead of flailing incoherently over them my ideology would be incredibly easy to discern.

interesting how you suddenly acknowledged there's nuance but before you were screeching about muh blockade blocking everything
As I said before, while the Saudis and UAE were directly involved in the conflict, the blockade, which was enforced with help from the U.S. navy resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands from starvation. the U.S. Navy also routinely intercepted attempts to smuggle arms into Yemen. This is all obvious to anyone who paid even the most cursory attention to the conflict. Here's an announcement of an interdiction by the 5th fleet in 2021, if you search you'll find dozens more.




severe cope, you were clearly not talking about the early stages of the Yemeni civil war when you said
Below is the relevant portion of my original quote. Thank you in advance for conceding the point.


If you want to see what a government can do with the popular will behind them, look how the Houthi's survived the near decades long embargo, Saudi, and Emirati invasion and the U.S. bombing campaigns, the houthis aren't religious lunatics like the wahhabis(Zaydism is fairly permissive as far as Islam goes, especially compared to the wahhabis), they don't have any nearby allies, their population isn't particularly smart and its been half starved for many years now and yet they gave the Saudis, Emiratis and Americans a bloody nose.
 
Can I be honest? I don't think 10 percent of the US population would go into rebellion. you realize "Biden" could have just called in the national guard to settle most of it, and all they end up doing is doing bombings or random shootings. no actual rebellion could ever occur.

What would, seriously, think would happen if trump died that day
I don't know about the 2024 election results, but I'd bet that many politicians and personalities would try to fill the Trump void that was left behind. Whether they'd be successful, I don't know.
 
It's because Conservatives know that a complete collapse of society would be very bad, unless they have deemed it to have already collapsed
You need to organize in order to have some kind of plan for what you want society to look like after the revolution, and you can't get violently inclined people to organize if Sauron's eye (and his undercover FBI goblins) is always looking to smash your group. Talk about violence online as a rightoid and either your peers will understandably suspect you of being a fed or your post will understandably get jannied for being a risk to the entire platform. Decades of this has majorly neutered any right-wing inclination to violence or revolution. Compared to you know 250 years ago when Sauron was gazing from across an ocean and not really able to effortlessly smash you.
 
thirdworldism is inseparable from pol posting
I'm not a "third worldist" and that isn't even a coherent ideology. You're just having a tantrum.

holy fucking based
This is just sad.

obviously weapons got through
How can poor Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and all the factions they support in Yemen, along with the Colombian and Sudanese mercenaries they hired and American ISR support along with the 5th fleets blockade hope to win against the might of the 50 Ak's, 20 mortars, and 5 ballistic missile guidance systems smuggled in on the monthly fishing ship from Iran(out of the fifteen that tried and didn't make it). Might as well start flying Iranian flags right here in the states then, the might of Iranian weapons is truly unsurpassed. I for one welcome our new Persian overlords.
 
You need to organize in order to have some kind of plan for what you want society to look like after the revolution, and you can't get violently inclined people to organize if Sauron's eye (and his undercover FBI goblins) is always looking to smash your group. Talk about violence online as a rightoid and either your peers will understandably suspect you of being a fed or your post will understandably get jannied for being a risk to the entire platform. Decades of this has majorly neutered any right-wing inclination to violence or revolution. Compared to you know 250 years ago when Sauron was gazing from across an ocean and not really able to effortlessly smash you.
You can get organised on the local level, focus on rebuilding your home towns and cities. States with a sane government will stabilize quickly while others will collapse into fragments where each town is for itself.
 
Trump comments on Bondi and Epstein:
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Jesus FUCK! Stop treating me like if I was retarded! What is the plan here?!
Trump was never going to fire one of his hot blondes. Nor was he ever going to release video tapes of his employers fucking kids. He should shut the fuck up because the more Chris Chan ass posts he writes about this the guiltier he looks.
Nostalgia Critic taught an important lesson.
if his last act as president is release the Epstein files and throw a molotov on his way out (especially if it's somehow a Dem) then all is forgiven.

if the only reason they're doing all of this is really just "it would be harmful to the government and the people involved are too big to go down" then I'm sorry that's bullshit, a 2 tier justice system is not justice at all, and if this system is built on child rape it deserves to fall in the first place.
Fully agreed.
This Epstein shit is a fucking mess. Trump really messed up with his base on this one, even if the larger public doesn't care. Allowing these pedophiles and spy agencies to get away with this hurts us all.

Shine the light on them!!
The light shines!
how has the word not gone out from the Trump camp to just STFU about Epstein?

bondi didn't have to say she had the Epstein files, she didn't have to give the twitter fags a worthless binder, they didn't have to release the fake cell video, they didn't have to do the press release that kicked this into overdrive, they didn't have to send dan the grifter and kash the streetshitter on a publicity tour to parrot obvious lies, trump doesn't even have to bring it up now.

if they just went radio silent about the Epstein shit after the binder fiasco they wouldn't be dealing with this dumpster fire. Sure, a few people would be upset, but they could easily just use the excuse of them being busy focusing on immigration and more pressing matters and release this turd at the back half of the administration if at all.

the fact that they, by themselves, kept bringing it up and keeping it in the public eye is weird, it's like discrediting the Epstein story has suddenly became the DOJ and FBI's main focus and really makes me think ((someone)) is pushing for this to be roundly and publicly killed once and for all so it'll go away forever. Regardless of how it effects the administration.
I swear Streisand is handling every decision about this.
Jesus fucking tapdancing Christ, weren't you people doomposting about how we'd be in a war with Iran by now? Now you're all ignoring all the times Trump has cooperated with authorities on Epstein, being really the only one to do so, so you can call the current POTUS a paedophile.

FUCK OFF, GLOWNIGS.
Oh+yeah+you+mean+neuroverse+_af783d43ef79bd7751bc4e0e297e304a.mp4
Every single time I see someone saying "Trump and Epstien were besties" I instantly know the person is a fucking retard that deserves to be ignored. My cope is still that the blackmail is being used by the Trump admin and my much less cope is that it's in "too big to fail" territory which is a goddamn copout, I WANT most banks, gigacorp bigwigs and goverment authorities to burn, specially if confirmed to be fucking pedophiles
 
I'm not a "third worldist" and that isn't even a coherent ideology. You're just having a tantrum.
What's your ideology then


How can poor Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and all the factions they support in Yemen, along with the Colombian and Sudanese mercenaries they hired and American ISR support along with the 5th fleets blockade hope to win against the might of the 50 Ak's, 20 mortars, and 5 ballistic missile guidance systems smuggled in on a fishing ship from Iran(out of the fifteen that tried and didn't make it). Might as well start flying Iranian flags right here in the states then, the might of Iranian weapons is truly unsurpassed. I for one welcome our new Persian overlords.
Living in the past by referring to a past civil war when the topic was clearly about current events
 
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