US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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getting them temp worker visa isnt the worst idea. they are already there and trained, so why send them back and import fresh ones? it will take along time to replace them with robots.
Personally I would prefer the businesses have no other option at all but to hire and train Americans at the minimum levels of pay and taxation mandated for all actual citizens.
 
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Everyone involved was a goddamn fed in one form or fashion.

even the guy that covered it for washington post;
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it was also old bob's first story, he just happened on it.
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And more specifically, the Burglers that were CIA assests were Cubans or anti-Castro Americans who played Cuban Adventurers. The implication with them, and everyone involved overall, was that they were against Nixon because they perceived him as being soft on Commies and wanting to end the Vietnam War. The MIC and glowies wanted the Forever Wars to continue so the money would flow, and Nixon frustrated them.

There was a British PM who was taken out in similar circumstances in the 70s as well. Also JFK was trying to end our early involvement in Vietnam right before he was domed.

Nixon played into their hands perfectly. He was very intellectual, perhaps the most intelligent President of the past 75 years. But he overthought things and was so concerned with the propriety of the Office of the President his natural instinct was to cover up something he legitimately had nothing to do with and did not know of or sanction in the first place.

Had he come clean to the American people as soon as he found out about the burglary and said "Some of my people apparently did this thing, I'm going to investigate it and prosecute them fully, I disavow their actions and apologize to the American People that I may have set up a culture that led to this in my White House," there's a chance he might have moved on and finished out his term with some low approval ratings but still been able to complete his agenda.
 
Personally I would prefer the businesses have no other option at all but to hire and train Americans at the minimum levels of pay and taxation mandated for all actual citizens.
Farm work is pretty hard and there arent enough fit low skilled american workers.
4% unemployment isnt alot.
The real deal would be harsher regulations on tug boats, but thats an election loser.
was to many people with minor issues arent part of the labor force for stupid reasons.
 
only internet politispergs care deeply about ukraine or middle east shit
Apparently Trump also deeply cares, given all the times he criticized what Biden did and the money and weapons wasted.

(But hey, what’s a lowly couple of hundred billion dollars literally getting blown up?)

You also totally miss the larger point. Given that Trump said one thing on Ukraine, and is now singing a different tune, what’s to prevent him from cucking out on mass deportations?

epstein is outrage bait for conspiratards.
You mean like Trump?
everybody with a bit of common sense understands that if you run a criminal enterprise like he did, you don't keep incriminating evidence like a 'client list' around in written form.
WOAH BUDDY! Are you calling Trump, Bondi, that jeet in the FBI morons without common sense? You know, given that they didn’t just talk about a client list but also promised it?

tariffs are being implemented.
You mean like the “liberation day tariffs” that got constantly kicked down the road because Trump cucked?
some are in place, some are still being negotiated.
Again, missing the point. (Username checks out I guess!)

Trump promised to use tariffs to reindustrialize the US, and even talked about tariffs replacing income tax. We’ve seen nothing of that.

Instead he totally cucked out and keeps extending deadlines.
(And what’s even worse, he listens to a moron like Graham who wants to do 500% tarrifs on China because Muh ebil Putin or whatever.)

Who’s going to take Trump seriously regarding tarriffs if he constantly kicks the can down the road?

How can you take him seriously on illegals, if he does 360s on literally all his election promises?

And some of you are seriously dumb enough to go: “Yeah, I know Trump said X… But nobody really cares about X so it’s ok that he doesn’t do X!”

Like ffs man, have some standards and use some critical thinking. Stop trying to defend going back on election promises.
 
That is mean! Don't do that.


FUCK OFF. YOU FUCKING SHITFUCK FAGGOT. FUCK YOU FUCKING DIE FOR THIS.

I know, I know. It's so irritating tho how we're at this point. There is no God damn 5D chess unless you count how we're all straight up getting played. Again. And there's a vocal minority still begging for it.

Call me a fag, but we get some good convo here. I like that. It doesn't all have to be in depth hard hitting stuff. But these bad faith tactics to make sure nothing ever gets questioned critically is fucking maddening.
 
Remember how he attacked Tucker, who’s been behind Trump from day one, as not actually being MAGA?
Remember how Tucker himself admitted to having grown sick of Trump until he got indicted, where he decided to back him again? And that's discounting how Tucker has been saying a lot of weird shit lately that has given cause to wonder if he actually is taking Middle Eastern money to shill shit.
And he’s far from the only one. Musk, the guy who was supposed to be head of NASA.
Trump had only kind things to say about Musk until he sperged out on Twitter and called Trump a pedo. Even you have admitted that there's no way Trump was actually an Epstein client.
 
Its really painful to admit, but there is a greater then zero chance America will go to war against California in our lifetimes.

What war?

No one in California will actually fight a professional battle over it. Feds, US army, National Guard, etc vs gang bangers and their clientele? Gang bangers will just go back to South America and figure out a new market for their dope. Their constituents in California will just be rounded up.

Farm work is pretty hard and there arent enough fit low skilled american workers.
All it will take is about two weeks to get some weight off and your body adjusted.
 
And what’s even worse, he listens to a moron like Graham who wants to do 500% tarrifs on China because Muh ebil Putin or whatever
Wait, are you actually trying to say that economically beating the shit out of China is a bad thing? Graham says a lot of dumb shit, but fucking over China isn't one of them.
 
the 'compromise' solution to farm stuff would be temporary/seasonal work visa programs (which i'm pretty sure already exist)
It's in reference to the already existent H-2A seasonal agricultural visa. He didn't say it explicitly but what he described was a system which already exists, where workers here illegally but which are otherwise law abiding can apply for the visa program, and if they adhere to the requirements of the visa while on a probationary program they will be allowed to maintain their visa status.
supporting Ukraine was ALWAYS MAGA?
I mean, if we're talking about "disrespect," I don't know what could be more disrespectful than Putin totally standing Trump up on peace talks. Meanwhile, Zelensky virtually prostrated himself and apologized to the American people on national television. Additionally, Zelensky promised preferred partnerships with American companies. Meanwhile Putin has told Trump to get fucked at every turn while actively undermining our allies. As for Patriots, the vast majority of our stock depletion has been due to conflict in the Middle East. Frankly I am of the opinion that a total Ukrainian victory is objectively the best outcome for the United States. We secure a solid ally on NATO's eastern flank, a geopolitical rival is exhausted and humiliated, and Ukraine, devastated by war, will be given tens of billions by the IMF, UN, and EU for rebuilding which a significant amount of will go to American companies contracted to help Ukraine rebuild.
 
I mean, if we're talking about "disrespect," I don't know what could be more disrespectful than Putin totally standing Trump up on peace talks. Meanwhile, Zelensky virtually prostrated himself and apologized to the American people on national television. Additionally, Zelensky promised preferred partnerships with American companies. Meanwhile Putin has told Trump to get fucked at every turn while actively undermining our allies. As for Patriots, the vast majority of our stock depletion has been due to conflict in the Middle East. Frankly I am of the opinion that a total Ukrainian victory is objectively the best outcome for the United States. We secure a solid ally on NATO's eastern flank, a geopolitical rival is exhausted and humiliated, and Ukraine, devastated by war, will be given tens of billions by the IMF, UN, and EU for rebuilding which a significant amount of will go to American companies contracted to help Ukraine rebuild.
To add to this, Trump just secured a deal where NATO is actually buying the weapons rather than us just gifting them wholesale.
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its not a fun job and its not well paid.
you would need alot of entitlement reforms to force lazy people into those.
It's an important enough job that it's not just going to vanish. In any industry with as constant and reliable a demand as agriculture, labor shortages will eventually be solved by higher wages as scarcity drives up the cost of the product. You just have to be willing to survive the adjustment period where there will be shortages. I think it's worth it to purge the country of people who systemically undercut natives in pay.
 
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