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Quintus said:
I would love for this to happen, but I doubt ppp ever will unless Andy starts to become a major liability. I think ppp at this point could probably make a decent amount of money on his own, but unless he's changed his policy Andy still wrangles their biggest paypigs.
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Indeed, that would require PPP to actually do something other than eating fast food, getting drunk and smoking weed.
 
I don't know if anyone mentioned here, but Destiny gave a shoutout to Kino Casino and said they want to rip off the freebird segment.
 
carl9987 said:
What is the thread’s prediction for warski’s videogame?
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It will come out after the 5k LOCALS gift.

Balldo's Gate said:
but instead that I'm not seeing the obvious conclusive proof that these were fabricated that I would expect for people to be as confident in dismissing it as they are.
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Absolutely, nobody can claim it's 100% fake yet. I simply don't believe someone would create such a convincing video. The guy Tardski had on said he can make it in Premier or something in half an hour? I call bullshit. I challenge anyone to replicate that clip in a working day (8 hours) to a convincing level. It shouldn't be hard to make something similar to Snapchat in terms of the UI effects but having them 100% match up is going to be an impossible task in my opinion.

If anyone can get the exact version of Snapchat during that time to do swipes and compare, I suppose there is a way.
 
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Balldo's Gate said:
But that logic does not seem to follow at all to me? And some of the contemporaneous complaints in the thread didn't age well, since there was later a video of scrolling through the messages (shown in Cog's video) that makes it much more difficult to fake, at that point you can't just edit images, you would have to at minimum create a fake Andy Warski account.
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It's because this is only half right. First of all, if memory recalls, Joachim was actually facing his own demons back then with an entirely different crew that wanted his head, that being his own bybs old fans. That group however also had a blood feud against both Donga and the skeptics and literally everyone. To top it off they weren't exactly the gayop bunch either. Corey was trying to fit in with that crowd cause he wanted an audience, and he is the gayop bunch. However, truth is in the logs as an old saying goes. So i'll autistically analyze em:
On the first picture, these don't look fake. When someone fakes logs they make sure to have the moneyshot in there. What do i mean with that? They would have Tanya, our victim, clearly state her age. Which didn't happen here, it was probably a snap message which those get deleted.
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I want to also note, that this despite being in the end of the collage is actually timeline-wise the first. When you fake something however you'd tend to put that first WITH the money shot to emphasize this person's knowledge beforehand.
Exhibit 2:
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This here is very specific. For those who don't know, Tardski got abused by his babysitter by being locked in the closet which was what made him develop according to him his signature stutter. The snapchat picture that she sent him which again if you faked that or gayopped him WHY IN THE FUCK WOULDN'T THAT BE INCLUDED IN HERE, seemed to trigger sexually repressed memories of him reversing that power dynamic in that traumatic situation. Also the overall style is identical to Tardski.

I conclude that these logs can't be fakes. It's because they lack too much to be fake and also Tardski behaves exactly like Tardski.
 
All becomes gunt said:
I conclude that these logs can't be fakes. It's because they lack too much to be fake and also Tardski behaves exactly like Tardski.
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I conclude that these logs can't be fakes because there is literal pictorial evidence of Ashton confirming the veracity of the allegations:
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Also this:
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stupid frog said:
Nuh uh, it was funny when he went to Ralph's house too. That was him right, on The Fuck Ralph Fes?
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It was such a disappointment. He didn't even knock to give diapers to Ralph personally. He just threw diapers near the door. It's always like that with his irl stuff. He hypes it up and the pay off is disappointing as fuck.
Jessie is pretty funny when he goes on literally who podcast and clowns on the host. His best content.
 
Balldo's Gate said:
I took the claim it was fake at face value but the more I look into it the logic seems circular? It seems to me that Metokur swept it up for Andy regardless of whether he was guilty or not of the sins he was accused of just like he would later sweep for a guilty Flam and now guilty VTubers. I'm not saying it's 100% guaranteed to be real, but instead that I'm not seeing the obvious conclusive proof that these were fabricated that I would expect for people to be as confident in dismissing it as they are.

The last time it came up in this thread, not long after the Vegas leaks at the end of last year, @Captain Manning pointed to the best summary of the evidence as to why it was fake here. (Nothing negative intended towards @Captain Manning, he linked to the most substantive post I could find from poking around the contemporaneous posts in that thread myself.)
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I'm not following what's going on with the KC all that much lately, so if something new has come up in regards to the Snapchat shit, I can't really comment on it.

I just know that the Snapchat shit wasn't widely believed when it happened because of the specific people surrounding it. Especially Zoom. Historically, Zoom's involvement in anything is treated as a gigantic red flag. This whole thing also happened around the time Andy was feuding with Tonkasaw and the Skeptics. Lots of gay ops were going on.

Last time I gave a history lesson about this here, I got bitched out by some sperg who claimed they were gonna drop some massive proof against Andy, and then never did.

Are they real? I dunno. It's not really a hill I want to die on one way or another. I've got too much other shit to worry about. I've personally always considered them "dubious" though because the circumstances surrounding their release.

If I am being completely honest though, this whole thing happened at a time when Tonka's stock was dropping rapidly, and Andy's was climbing. So maybe people just believed what they wanted to believe. Andy's ascension culminated in the great Knoxville no-show. Andy was riding high after that, before he fucked it all up with stupid CP investigation stream he did with Ralph. THAT was treated as a more legitimate controversy (feel free to do the red text thing).
 
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Balldo's Gate said:
took the claim it was fake at face value but the more I look into it the logic seems circular? It seems to me that Metokur swept it up for Andy regardless of whether he was guilty or not of the sins he was accused of just like he would later sweep for a guilty Flam and now guilty VTubers. I'm not saying it's 100% guaranteed to be real, but instead that I'm not seeing the obvious conclusive proof that these were fabricated that I would expect for people to be as confident in dismissing it as they are
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Same dude. I sifted through the Warski thread and there was never any bombshell that definitely proved them as real or fabricated.

There was speculation that El Rariachi was the mastermind behind it along with Zoom and Anal Vape but the only evidence provided was Discord messages of gay ops unrelated to the Andy allegations and Rariachi talking about the Andy allegations in twitter DMs.
Stalovna said:
@Detective Squirrel is weighing in on the leaks. Here’s an archive of the thread (http://archive.is/1cZAz). It’s a long thread. He thinks El Rariachi is the mastermind of everything. I also saved the screenshots provided in the thread.

Btw, he thinks Anal Vape and Zoom faked the screenshots of the Snapchat conversation between Andy and the teenager (http://archive.is/t6MPD).
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By the 57th or so page, the whole Donga Andy Knoxville arc was beginning so most of the conversation shifted to that while most people in the thread unanimously agreed that the DMs were fake. I kept waiting for smoking gun (Zoom and co admitting it was fake, them conspiring against Andy in a recorded call, etc.) but nothing.
 
BicketyBuckBumble said:
By the 57th or so page, the whole Donga Andy Knoxville arc was beginning so most of the conversation shifted to that while most people in the thread unanimously agreed that the DMs were fake. I kept waiting for smoking gun (Zoom and co admitting it was fake, them conspiring against Andy in a recorded call, etc.) but nothing.
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Yeah, like I just got done saying, people at the time were rooting hard for Andy. 2018 was probably his best year. I would say Andy's greatest moment ever occurred the following January with this:

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Sadly, it went downhill from there.

I am still not comfortable accepting the Snapchats as real, but I'll go ahead and concede the point that people might have been overly dismissive of them because all the people Andy was fighting at that time were gigantic faggots.

It's seven years on though, so I kinda have my doubts we'll ever know for sure. I think it's basically a dead case.
 
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