US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Fiscal conservatives have been doomsdaying about the debt for as long as I can remember and we are still here
Elons spending sperg out was such a weird hill to die on.

We've witnessed time and time again how Trump defies 'experts,' the media and the establishment, turned foreign policy on its head and usurped expectations. I don't understand why Musk was dooming so hard with spending. It like he doesn't realize his own car and space subsidies can be turned off with a tweet. I personally think with all the efforts and investments Trump is making, that the deficit will decrease to everyone's surprise but c'est la vie for the space autist.
 
I really don't see what the issue is with 80 hours of work/community service/training a month is to get medicaid for able-bodied adults. That's only 20 hours a week. I just don't see how that's so much to ask. The bill explicitly exempts disabled people from being ineligible so all of these 'disabled' protestors who are claiming this bill is taking from them are just outright lying.
The fact that it even extends to community service makes it fudgable. Not enough work hours? Go volunteer at a soup kitchen, or church, or literally anything and you get your bennies. The problem is people are fucking lazy.
 
Elon doomed his political aspirations when he called drumpf a pedo. No one is going to trust you for shit when you turn on a dime and spaz out like a tard.
 
In fairness the American Right calls Donboi ... the God Emperor. The fucking God Emperor. Talk about un-American. Since he's a 1990s liberal and a politician, I'm not sure if that's worship of the state, corporations, politicians, or all of the above.
Do not be obtuse, a meme is not nessasarily representative of reality, unless you are implying that the Dems were legit tap dancing for "Dark Brandon".

I will give you this, some of the MAGAts worship the dude, but how is that any different from the folks i have seen with posters and shrines to Obama and family?
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Now shutup and buy $TRUMP coin.
 
I've said it a couple of times here that if Democrats really think that trump is going to bring about the end of the world, why aren't they dropping the pretense of working with them? why aren't they yelling at Republicans at meetings, trying to cut microphones, etc? if Donald trump truly is the end of America, then this is the worst revolution since that 50 minute African war against the British.

And I think I know why. Their lying. They know it isn't the end of the nation. they just want their gibs back and to keep people voting for them.

Of course there's problems with the GOP, but overall, I think their doing a hell of a better job in my lifetime vs any other democrat has in office.
 
Elons spending sperg out was such a weird hill to die on.

We've witnessed time and time again how Trump defies 'experts,' the media and the establishment, turned foreign policy on its head and usurped expectations. I don't understand why Musk was dooming so hard with spending. It like he doesn't realize his own car and space subsidies can be turned off with a tweet. I personally think with all the efforts and investments Trump is making, that the deficit will decrease to everyone's surprise but c'est la vie for the space autist.
He doesn't give a shit about spending literally no one does. Debt is just a meme issue that politicians run on from both sides, they only give a shit when it's not them doing it.
The ONLY reason Elon Musk is sperging as hard as he was because he was denied governmental subsidies for solar mandates. If Elon truly gave a single fucking shit about governmental spending he would not take so much money every single year in subsidies.
 
Do you also think it's "ironic" or "happenstance" or a "meme" that Donboi is heavily connected to techbros who have unironically written we should have a surveillance police state headed up by a CEO/King/etc?

Come on. You use Yarvin terms in this chat, @Mister Fister. We know it's not a tongue-in-cheek joke
Yes, you've caught us, we're all working with Thiel, building underground armies to raise Donald Trump to the status of God-Emperor. The divisions of these armies are called Chapters, and we wear a lot of armor and robes and call each other brother and cousin and we're planning on purging heretics, mutants, and unbelievers with flamethrowers and maybe those new fancy 30mm grenade launchers Barrett cooked up.
 
The fact that it even extends to community service makes it fudgable. Not enough work hours? Go volunteer at a soup kitchen, or church, or literally anything and you get your bennies. The problem is people are fucking lazy.
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i understand the irony of using this meme lmao

I honestly feel like this could possibly cure a lot of people of their depression by forcing them to actually use their precious gift of life to do something than goon
 
Do you also think it's "ironic" or "happenstance" or a "meme" that Donboi is heavily connected to techbros who have unironically written we should have a surveillance police state headed up by a CEO/King/etc?

Come on. You use Yarvin terms in this chat, @Mister Fister. We know it's not a tongue-in-cheek joke
Fine then, Warhammer 40k is a far future dark fantasy tabletop setting that’s very popular with the younger right. The main faction is called the imperium. Think of Catholic Space Nazis and you’re basically there the other factions are worse.
 
Yes, you've caught us, we're all working with Thiel, building underground armies to raise Donald Trump to the status of God-Emperor. The divisions of these armies are called Chapters, and we wear a lot of armor and robes and call each other brother and cousin and we're planning on purging heretics, mutants, and unbelievers with flamethrowers and maybe those new fancy 30mm grenade launchers Barrett cooked up.
Fine then, Warhammer 40k is a far future dark fantasy tabletop setting that’s very popular with the younger right. The main faction is called the imperium. Think of Catholic Space Nazis and you’re basically there the other factions are worse.

With respect neither of you answered the criticism I made. It's fine tho. I've realized it doesn't matter.
 
Fine then, Warhammer 40k is a far future dark fantasy tabletop setting that’s very popular with the younger right. The main faction is called the imperium. Think of Catholic Space Nazis and you’re basically there the other factions are worse.
Imagine thinking Donald Trump would actually take good ol' Moldbug seriously. I just assume Yarvin's still on his grift because he wanted to fuck the art hoes who hang around the Red Scare crew, especially now that Dasha's theoretically off the market.

With respect neither of you answered the criticism I made. It's fine tho. I've realized it doesn't matter.
You took well known, decade old meme and took it seriously and when that was pointed out you did the pivot and slide the goalposts to something completely different. Given that, why would anyone actually take you seriously?
 
A massive reason everyone's health care is so bad these days is because of your boy, the Mocha Messiah's Affordable Care Act fucked it all up
That's fucking bullshit, you don't understand just how bad healthcare was and just how easy it was to be denied coverage or dropped before 2010.
they're the party of endless gibs for [the poor].
See, the fact that you've actually bought into the last 40 years of Republican propaganda that any aid to this country's poor is "gibs", meanwhile they've spent the last 8 presidencies continually fucking over the middle class to enrich the rich is the fucking problem with this country.

Republicans since Reagan have tricked people into believing all of their problems come from the bottom classes and not from the higher ups who actually pull the strings. This bill is going to cause stagflation on top of the oncoming recession, but that doesn't matter because they might do a few more shows of deportation theater for Fox News.
we mostly want 1. The Illegals Gone and 2. Are perfectly happy play by the rules Team Blue has been using to, to put it politely, bend Team Blue over a barrel and fuck them in the ass to death, politically not literally, we don't want to catch GRIDs.
>we mostly want [culture war bullshit]
Nothing about improving the healthcare system, nothing about improving the education system, nothing about reducing poverty or improving the economy or anything that actually materially helps the American people, just petty grudges.

I can see how easy it is for undocumented migrants to hide from ICE, you faggots let them stay rent free in your minds 24/7, fully willing to allow the GOP to rape and rob you blind for the next generation as long as it might slight them.

Trump's Supreme Court has greatly expanded the power and depth of Executive overreach, don't be surprised when the loopholes he's added are used against your side after 2028.
 
Imagine thinking Donald Trump would actually take good ol' Moldbug seriously. I just assume Yarvin's still on his grift because he wanted to fuck the art hoes who hang around the Red Scare crew, especially now that Dasha's theoretically off the market.

JD has referred to and quoted Yarvin's work approvingly. Elon is Paypal mafia. Come on. If you're going to do propaganda, please do it better.
 
Nothing about improving the healthcare system, nothing about improving the education system, nothing about reducing poverty or improving the economy

I can see how easy it is for undocumented migrants to hide from ICE, you faggots let them stay rent free in your minds 24/7, fully willing to allow the GOP to rape and rob you blind for the next generation as long as it might slight them.

Trump's Supreme Court has greatly expanded the power and depth of Executive overreach, don't be surprised when the loopholes he's added are used against your side after 2028.
You’re just pissy you can’t have your slaves.
 
Elon doomed his political aspirations when he called drumpf a pedo. No one is going to trust you for shit when you turn on a dime and spaz out like a tard.
No kidding. No one wants to work for someone who turns on you like that. At least Trump is simple: don't stab him in the back. People conflate this with "OMG YOU HAVE TO WORSHIP TRUMP!!!" but we saw in the Telegram leaks that Vance voices disagreement with Trump, but doesn't turn on him or try to supplant him. This is actually how most cabinets work: people give the President their opinion and the President makes the ultimate decision. For whatever it's worth, even Obama did this. There are many who worked in the Obama administration and said the guy would listen to their advice or criticism, even if Obama ultimately chose to pursue a different policy. It sounds like the only modern presidency where criticism was truly verboten was Mr. Autopen.

It's almost as if people don't like you if you act like a conniving little theater kid.
I honestly feel like this could possibly cure a lot of people of their depression by forcing them to actually use their precious gift of life to do something than goon
That's the rub (tee hee): people are addicted to gibs. Communists convinced several generations that everything comes from nothing and the government should provide everything. It used to be "ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for your country." Now it's all a bunch of lazy assholes who don't understand how the world works.
 
I really don't see what the issue is with 80 hours of work/community service/training a month is to get medicaid for able-bodied adults. That's only 20 hours a week. I just don't see how that's so much to ask. The bill explicitly exempts disabled people from being ineligible so all of these 'disabled' protestors who are claiming this bill is taking from them are just outright lying.
the work-shy do not appreciate it when you tell them to work
 
Trust me if you think people aren't going to find ways to get out of doing shit like this while still receiving gibs you have not been to a social security office.
I actually have! Well at least wherever you had to sign up for food/insurance help. At least in the state I'm in when you're on gibs they call you very often and give pretty embarrassing interviews and ask for paperwork to see if you really 'need' it. I've had to give paperwork to my bosses to sign make sure I wasn't earning too much so I could still qualify for gib insurance. Wasn't the most fun thing in the world

I assume it will be the same but reverse- making sure you have done enough. Granted, people will just sign it for whatever and fudge numbers but it's better than nothing at this point.
 
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