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Null said:
I don't think any of the people repeating "Kroger's, Whole Foods" at me over, and over, and over again have lived in Europe.
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I have. If you can’t find the cheese you want even though it’s in literally over 1200 stores across America, I don’t think America is the problem.
 
Null said:
I don't think any of the people repeating "Kroger's, Whole Foods" at me over, and over, and over again have lived in Europe.
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How easy is it to come across those more unique regional blends that you brought up before in Europe? Like with the guy from Norway. Is it common to see people like that anywhere or do you only see them more in in cities to get their name out more?
On the lack of cheese in the US: I agree with what others have said in that I think most people in general just don't want different cheeses than the crap they've grown up with. I'm personally not a big fan of cheese but I've grown to like it more the older I get.
 
Gatcha Gonna Getcha said:
How easy is it to come across those more unique regional blends that you brought up before in Europe?
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you can find them in gas stations alongside fresh baked bread. you can't even get fresh baked bread in bakeries in the us. they just make fucking cake.

us food culture is so depressing and i fucking despise the fags coping that it's the same. it's not the same. groceries are twice as expensive in the us, the resturaunts suck, there's almost no real good local restaurants, and the average grocery store has no good cheese.

i also truly, truly despise - more than i could possibly articulate in words - being told that I'm just not looking hard enough. i've spent a decade outside of the us. i know what it's like out there. i spent the first 20 years of my life in the us. i know what it's like in here.
 
Null said:
you can find them in gas stations alongside fresh baked bread. you can't even get fresh baked bread in bakeries in the us. they just make fucking cake.
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I've heard how shit bread is compared to bread in Europe from travel channels. You really have to find a dedicated bakery that specifically does bread to get anything decent if you don't want wonderbread crap. I think the only place I've heard that was worse is Japan. Hopefully there's a cheese revolution eventually.
 
How hard is it to find real bread in the US? All I see in the media is stuff like Wonder Bread, which is probably the bread equivalent of American cheese.
 
Gatcha Gonna Getcha said:
Hopefully there's a cheese revolution eventually.
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Hentai-Semitism said:
How hard is it to find real bread in the US? All I see in the media is stuff like Wonder Bread, which is probably the bread equivalent of American cheese.
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Depending on where you live it can be literally impossible to find fresh baked bread leavened by yeast. When I first moved back I wanted live yeast. I called up Walmart, a local pizzeria, and a local bakery and asked if they had live yeast. Walmart only had dried yeast and their bakery received its bread as frozen dough already leavened. The pizzeria received its dough the same way. The bakery only made sweets and had zero products that required yeast. The nearest whole foods was 90 minutes away.
 
Null said:
i also truly, truly despise - more than i could possibly articulate in words - being told that I'm just not looking hard enough
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Just make your own, like a true American frontiersman. If you can't find and buy it, steal it from a local Indian tribe.
 
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Null said:
Depending on where you live it can be literally impossible to find fresh baked bread leavened by yeast. When I first moved back I wanted live yeast. I called up Walmart, a local pizzeria, and a local bakery and asked if they had live yeast. Walmart only had dried yeast and their bakery received its bread as frozen dough already leavened. The pizzeria received its dough the same way. The bakery only made sweets and had zero products that required yeast. The nearest whole foods was 90 minutes away.
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It's the same situation as with cheese? I see. I was listening to old MATI episodes and I remember your rant about grated pseudo-cheddar. So unless you live in a decently sized city, you're shit out of luck.

Did you consider getting a bread machine? Those aren't too expensive and you can make your own bread in about 3 hours. You only need packaged bread mix and some water and the machine does everything for you. I've been using one for a few weeks and I'm satisfied. Just make sure if the mix you're using requires extra yeast because not all of them come pre-mixed with it.
 

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Hentai-Semitism said:
So unless you live in a decently sized city, you're shit out of luck.
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Not necessarily. The drive from backwoods to city is about 20 minutes (here), but you can find some decent imported cheeses. Got some pecorino romano for a tasty carbonara once from a basic ass grocery store. It is more expensive however, like a wedge is more than a whole pack of the kraft singles.

A big issue is finding more "exotic" meats like guanciale. Ground beef, shit steaks, and radioactive chicken abound but unless you want to go to a butcher for half decent venison or anything else. Don't bother with fish, you will not find good fish unless you're at a coastal city.
 
Null said:
i spent the first 20 years of my life in the us. i know what it's like in here.
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You lived in coastal cities while still going to Walmart. Then you’re surprised that, when you ape the European talking point that Walmart is the only option, people in Middle America insist you’re wrong. 1) Your perspective is indeed limited, and it’s insulting when you repeat people whose perspective is even further removed from the situation, 2) all this is is impotent bitching at people who have neither caused nor can solve, your perceived problem, who have shown you your issue is not as total as you want to believe.
 
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Hentai-Semitism said:
You only need packaged bread mix and some water
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Fix your shit. Prepackaged mixes are never, at any point, necessary in a kitchen. Keep the staples on hand, learn to make whatever the fuck you want for real, and try not to get fat.

There's one exception, which is cake mixes. They coat the individual particles of flour in those in fat in an industrial process that's night impossible to recreate in a home kitchen. Professional bakers sometimes use them in place of some of their flour when they're going for a particular texture or crumb in their cakes, since you can't really do it in anything less than an industrial bakery. Also, puff pastry. You're probably not going to beat the store-bought stuff, and it's cheap to buy and tedious to make.
 
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