Men, Where Have You Gone? Please Come Back. - Female pornographer laments men staying at home, playing vidya and wanking.

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Troy and I were having dinner at Mama Delia, one of the quieter spots. The sidewalk patio held five tables: three two-tops, including ours, and a pair pulled together for a group of eight women. At those tables, Troy was the only man.
The scene was beautiful — low lights, shared plates, shoulders angled in. The kind of evening people wait for all winter. Still, I found myself watching the crowd as it moved past us: women walking in pairs or alone, dressed with care. At table after table at the nearby restaurants, there was a noticeable absence of men — at least of men seated in what looked like dates.
Troy and I have known each other for almost 20 years. We met at Playboy, of all places, back when we were both learning how desire gets packaged, sold and sometimes misunderstood. We stayed close friends, bonded not just by our opinions, but by the effort it takes to stay in someone’s life.
That night, we made the effort. Still, what I saw unfolding around us felt like something else entirely: a collective shift I couldn’t unsee.
It started to become clear the previous April, when a man who had been pursuing me canceled a dinner at the last minute. There was a scheduling mix-up with his son’s game. I understood. I’m a hockey mom; I get it. Still, I went. I wore what I would have worn anyway. I took the table. I ordered well. And I watched the room.

Only two tables nearby seemed to hold actual dates. The rest were groups of women, or women alone, each one occupying her space with quiet confidence. No shrinking. No waiting. No apologizing.
That night marked something. Not a heartbreak, but an unveiling. A sense that what I’d been experiencing wasn’t just personal misalignment. It was something broader. Cultural. A slow vanishing of presence.

About grieving what’s not meeting us. And about refusing to dress it up as personal failure when it’s actually a collective reality.
So here’s what I’ll say: You are missed. Not just by me, but by the world you once helped shape.
We remember you. The version of you that lingered at the table. That laughed from the chest. That asked questions and waited for the answers. That touched without taking. That listened — really listened — when a woman spoke.
You are not gone, but your presence is thinning. In restaurants, in friendships, in the slow rituals of romantic emergence.
You’ve retreated — not into malice, but into something softer and harder all at once: Avoidance. Exhaustion. Disrepair.
Maybe no one taught you how to stay. Maybe you tried once, and it hurt. Maybe the world told you your role was to provide, to perform, to protect — and never to feel.

But here’s what’s real: We never needed you to be perfect. We needed you to be with us. Not above. Not muted. Not masked. Just with.
And you can still come back. Not by becoming someone else, but by remembering what connection feels like when it’s honest and slow. When it’s earned and messy and sacred.
We’re still here, those of us who are willing to cocreate something true. We are not impossible to please. We’re not asking for performances.
We are asking for presence. For courage. For breath and eye contact and the ability to say, “I’m here. I don’t know how to do this perfectly, but I want to try.”

Come back. Not with flowers or fireworks, but with willingness. With your whole, beautiful, imperfect heart.
We’re still here. And we haven’t stopped hoping.
As for me, I’ll keep showing up. Not because I’m waiting. Because I know what it feels like when someone finally arrives.

Oops, forgot my heckin Archive.
 
One point that should be brought up is that getting employed in today's job market is such a farce that it's probably easier to get welfare than it is to get employed. Having zero income makes it harder to date.
 
I'm a male. Nice try tho.
I think we all know exactly what kind of ‘male’ you are.
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Dear women.
I dont want you to be hot. I want you to not be a cunt and maybe like a couple of the things I do.
In exchange I will open any jar you want.
 
The general sentiment of this thread is that women have ruined the prospect of dating through their willingness to shift the culture as a gender. I definitely feel like there's not much representation of men's actions before and during that which may have prompted that shift in the first place.

I think my issue, personally, is that men are romanticizing the nuclear family of the 50's without addressing the physical and emotional abuse that many many men used to leverage control over their households. Women weren't just "pleased as punch" to be making a pot roast that had to be on the table at 4pm, she was going to get her ass beat if it wasn't. Not to mention the absolute swath of men across the country that fucked everyone in their household until privacy was essentially dismantled.

I dont know where I'd come down on the issue at the moment, but treating the male gender as an impotent victim in the situation is pretty gay.
Lets look at all the things men bought as gifts in the 50s that are now "problomatic" Dishwashers, washing/clothes driers, vacuum cleaners, microwaves, all thing to make domestic duties easier.

Someone has to cook/clean/take care of the children. This is a part of the partnership. Everyone pulled their weight. It was a mutual agreement to make both parties happy.

A man went to work for a soul crushing job because it supported his wife and children. This gave him purpose. A woman cooked and cleaned because it supported her husband and children. This gave her purpose.

Neither role was beneath the other. Both needed to be done.
 
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I've given up on dating. So many of the women I meet can't carry a conversation and a lot of them don't want to be a team and refuse to give any help. I have always been someone who was quick to help and I like doing things for people, but when it's taken advantage of and they show no gratitude or signs of helping even when asked, it just gets tiring. These aren't women from bars or dating apps, it's at church where everyone says you need to be to find a good woman.
 
I'm not in favor of the sexual revolution and all the shit it caused, but if you think societal collapse, especially involving first world nations, will happen because of gender war bullshit, the correct response is an unironic "touch grass".
The reason this is a retarded statement isn't because 'gender war bullshit' directly will cause societal problems en masse, but the fact that the reason you even needed to make this statement is what will do it.

The fact you felt the need to say this belies the notion that it's something that can be ignored.

Now, there's a discussion to be had about the stuff surrounding this stupid article including it's weird LLM vibe but denying that there's a problem at all is the worst of a few bad options.
 
Maybe no one taught you how to stay. Maybe you tried once, and it hurt.
Nah, pretty sure I've spent my entire life being told I'm not needed and to butt out. There's no big social conspiracy or engineered collapse or rising hate, it really is just that the default response from women these days is to avoid engaging with men - Not even romantically, just in general. The learned response from men is that its because our interaction isn't generally wanted. So a lotta us just stopped, because we're not assholes.

If you want them back, all you gotta do is actively invite them back. You can't just ask them nicely to ignore everything women have asked them to do up to that point, they're gonna feel trapped between two mutually exclusive expectations for their behavior. Welcome to the social role of the pursuer, if you want them, go get them. We tried, and were told to stop.
 
Idk why anyone bothers arguing with a person who uses darksidephil as an avatar; only bottom dwelling retard niggers find him interesting.
 
It started to become clear the previous April, when a man who had been pursuing me canceled a dinner at the last minute. There was a scheduling mix-up with his son’s game. I understood. I’m a hockey mom
You don't go between a man and his blood relatives. He can dump you at any moment; his son is his flesh and blood.

Immature women often want a man to swear allegiance to her in preference to his mother. These women deserve a lifetime shoving cat litter.
 
Welcome to the social role of the pursuer, if you want them, go get them. We tried, and were told to stop.
They'll become cat ladies and drink themselves to death on box wine before doing this because being pursued isn't a means to an end - it's the whole point for women. Being the object of desire is a primary factor in how they determine their own status and sense of self-worth.
 
man went to work for a soul crushing job because it supported his wife and children.
No job in that era was soul crushing. The income to debt ratio climbed much later. Work is far more soul crushing now and the pay is far far less when compared to the cost of living.

I'd really also like to double down on the physical and emotional violence that men used to domineer their households towards their partners and children. Unless you think it's acceptable to inflict violence on women and children to impose your will on them as long as you pay their bills I guess..?

Sorry I beat you up yesterday, honeybun. But I invented this vacuum cleaner to make your chores easier!
 
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