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Spunt said:
emergent consciousness, which can't be detected scientifically... for me at least is strong evidence that the mental world does not exist on the same plane as the physical, there's nothing about the structure of the brain that explains it. But it definitely exists somewhere (cf: Descartes), so that means, logically, that physical reality is not all that there is.
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Emergence can be described scientifically, I haven't looked into it in a long time but they were using it to describe phase transitions when I did. So were nowhere near the level of sophistication in our models to get even close to describing consciousness. And I think you're bang on by saying "emergent consciousness," I also suspect there's a few levels of emergence between our aggregate neuronal states and the phenomenon we experience as consciousness. So I don't think we have to go the Cartesian route and call it god.

Most people agree that mathematical truths are somehow "real," but they aren't physical. But axiomatic systems of deduction seem more real than a bunch of symbols that have no meaning. We don't have to resort to some Godelian intuition to explain how we are able to reason with abstract symbols, cos we are just abstract symbols built on abstract symbols.

If you're interested in consciousness and haven't read it, I strongly recommend Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid by Douglas Hoftsadter. Its truly beautiful and I think he's onto something with self-referential symbolic systems as a basis for our understanding of consciousness.

Sorry for OT sperg.

I'm neutral about Paige's death, though she was not fat I would not have sex with her, even if she was still alive. Think about all the highly drug resistant infectious material you'd be putting yourself at risk of catching.
 
MirnaMinkoff said:
If he’s not speaking it’s probably non-verbal autism or some other brain problem.
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Of course we don’t get a lot of non-boomerang videos, but he doesn’t really present as autistic. My top theory is that it’s a physical issue from the unnecessary “tongue tie” surgery she had performed on him as an infant. What little noise we hear from him sounds like he really can’t form sounds.
 
I’ve heard 12 step programs help Munchies? Also, they have a skin pickers anonymous & overeaters anonymous. But being a munchie is a lot more rare than skin picking & obesity - so I don’t know how you’d have a peer2peer support group like that anyway.

Either way, I know in 12 step programs they say there are those that can’t be honest with themselves. They are the “unfortunates” who can’t seem to help it. They were born defective.

Reminds me a bit of Paige.
 
I browse a few medical subreddits and this woman's tiktok came up for discussion.

She's obsessed with one ER physician who has repeatedly called out her fake seizures, and according to this recording of their conversation she has called the police on him for being a big meanie about her munching.

It's very cathartic and entertaining to hear her being called out for her bullshit.

If anyone more tech savvy than I (which is everyone I think) knows how to archive a tiktok you have my thanks.
 
Sailor Kim Jong Moon said:
I’ve heard 12 step programs help Munchies? Also, they have a skin pickers anonymous & overeaters anonymous. But being a munchie is a lot more rare than skin picking & obesity - so I don’t know how you’d have a peer2peer support group like that anyway.

Either way, I know in 12 step programs they say there are those that can’t be honest with themselves. They are the “unfortunates” who can’t seem to help it. They were born defective.

Reminds me a bit of Paige.
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I don't know, it might work a bit if there was some group-based CBT/DBT type program where the focus is on training these people to resist the default urge to respond to normal "stress" of life events by redirecting the focus to their "poor health" and instead deal with it like an adult. It'd take a skilled wrangler to hold firm and prevent it from degenerating into a retard theatrics competition, but having some self-aware somatizers and health anxiety people in there might keep it civil. Basically similar to anger management, but instead of trying to break the habit of losing your shit at people and ending up fired/arrested regularly, it's about shutting the fuck up about your health problems. Like most therapy it will probably do fuck all for a portion of them, but with the amount of resources pissed away on them you may as well try.
 
Are we sure that's what it is, though? An attempt to arrest development/avoid adulthood? Arguably, most of the women who engage in this are coming from so much privilege that their failure to launch isn't going to result in homelessness, prostitution/addiction or even (gasp) having to work a minimum wage job. Their families will just float them...forever.

And then there are those like Dani who don't come from any privilege, who DO have to work regular jobs, almost to the end that it's to support their munch habit. So it's a spectrum, maybe?

Also, some of them are just hell bent on punishing their physical bodies like the anachans. This body kept me from being a skater/gymnast? Watch me fucking destroy it so you can't judge me for failing.

I'd love to hear Feldman talk more about the recovered, former munchies. If there are any.
 
CoolFool said:
I still find the case odd. I still can't figure out if this started out genuinely as a bad reaction to the covid vaccine/covid itself and she just ran with it, or if she planned this from the start.
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She started munching right after she and her husband got married, I've posited earlier in the thread it could be psychologically similar to how dudes troon out on their wives right after tying the knot, something about monopolizing your spouse's attention now that they're committed to you. Dianna was always very careful shilling through this saga, not to say that donating to her Patreon is to help her get better (but still shilling her Patreon so she can get free money), I think she did it for attention at first, saw how much money she made doing literally nothing (see this post for a breakdown of her Patreon growth just from munching), and kept it up as long as she could stand before deciding to move on and "get better."

I think she'll fall back into it when it suits her though, "oh I have a long covid flareup I can't do anything" "sorry husband my CFS is hitting hard right now all I can do is lie in bed and talk to this German dude but not you" plus she makes tons of money doing it.

Also I saw this coming back in December, the "Dianna stood up for the first time in years!" I just knew she was getting tired of it.
 
CoolFool said:
I don't know if this was posted here already but I rolled my eyes at this video of Dianne "standing for the first time"
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i posted it the day it came out i think. How can a person get married, get /sick/, not lose any muscle mass, and still be able to hold up a switch?

What's funny, in the first 30 secs of the new vid, they throw out ALL off the munchie words. me/cfs, pots, long covid.

some dude killed himself and she's now "better". ok.
 
I know this isn't quite the right place since lyme disease is very real, but I stumbled across the reel on Instagram, a woman using honey bee stings to treat her lyme disease. Seems like some woo woo bullshit after some cursory research, allegedly the venom breaks down the outer biofilm of the lyme bacteria and allows treatments to be more effective, but it takes a much higher dose than a single sting and she says the treatment is going to take years. She claims the bees are "end of life" so it's not like she's going to be killing off thousands of healthy bees, but it. still reeks of horse shit to me. Anyone more medically inclined care to weigh in?

 
Lesbian Grandma said:
I know this isn't quite the right place since lyme disease is very real, but I stumbled across the reel on Instagram, a woman using honey bee stings to treat her lyme disease. Seems like some woo woo bullshit after some cursory research, allegedly the venom breaks down the outer biofilm of the lyme bacteria and allows treatments to be more effective, but it takes a much higher dose than a single sting and she says the treatment is going to take years. She claims the bees are "end of life" so it's not like she's going to be killing off thousands of healthy bees, but it. still reeks of horse shit to me. Anyone more medically inclined care to weigh in?

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Chronic Lyme isn’t real and she’s full of horseshit and bees.
 
Lesbian Grandma said:
I know this isn't quite the right place since lyme disease is very real, but I stumbled across the reel on Instagram, a woman using honey bee stings to treat her lyme disease. Seems like some woo woo bullshit after some cursory research, allegedly the venom breaks down the outer biofilm of the lyme bacteria and allows treatments to be more effective, but it takes a much higher dose than a single sting and she says the treatment is going to take years. She claims the bees are "end of life" so it's not like she's going to be killing off thousands of healthy bees, but it. still reeks of horse shit to me. Anyone more medically inclined care to weigh in?

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Kinda looks like she got taken in by some “chronic Lyme” shill and now she’s getting stung by bees as part of a “treatment,” but in a larger sense as a kind of cosmic punishment for being so easily duped.
 
Lesbian Grandma said:
I know this isn't quite the right place since lyme disease is very real, but I stumbled across the reel on Instagram, a woman using honey bee stings to treat her lyme disease. Seems like some woo woo bullshit after some cursory research, allegedly the venom breaks down the outer biofilm of the lyme bacteria and allows treatments to be more effective, but it takes a much higher dose than a single sting and she says the treatment is going to take years. She claims the bees are "end of life" so it's not like she's going to be killing off thousands of healthy bees, but it. still reeks of horse shit to me. Anyone more medically inclined care to weigh in?

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Can these people stop killing bees for stupid shit like this? The bees contributes way more to our society and world than these sickfluencers
 
Lesbian Grandma said:
bees
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Bee venom seems to have some interesting properties, I’ve seen it touted as being of potential use in arthritic conditions, and there are a few research groups looking at various toxins (including apitoxins) becasue they’re a fascinating chemical cocktail. It’s got some peptides and proteins in that break down cell membranes, work with inflammation and dilate blood vessels and all sorts of stuff.
I would be very wary of multiple bee stings. It also contains catecholamines and that’s a quick way to a massive heart attack (which is what done people sting multiply for of.)
Bee and other venoms are undoubtedly going to be a source of pharmaceuticals - but letting bees sting you at will is not a great idea. A single sting can kill if you’re allergic as well, and allergy can develop.
 
Womb Wizard Victim said:
Have you had a stroke Otterly? Quick, get that Sickstagram and Gofund me up and running. You'll be rolling in pity-bux in no time. Remember to get some pink dye for your service porcupine.
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I have severe chronic phone fagitis. BRING ME THE BEES and a cane and a variety of your finest toobs
 
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