Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[AnOminous]

Russ just admitted, again, that his case has nothing to do with copyright, but is just an attempt to harass Moon.

 

[Hunter Hearst Helmsley]

Greer claims Josh personally posted his copyrighted material, if I heard that right.

 

[Clovis]

Hardin explicity asking for case terminantion. No where for case to go, judicial system has been badly misused, no where for it to go.
Greer still butthurt about Moon allegedly living overseas.
"There's nothing that has made this case unwinnable"
"I have photogrpahs of Joshua moon posing my copyright online."

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Judge says that that can't be done, everything has to be done according to the law, and statements to be correct, to investigate matters.

 

[SCV]

Rusty: "I have photographs of Joshua posting my copyrights online"
I'm imagining a polaroid of jersh at a computer where you can see the screen like a network TV show.

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

So Greer is accusing Josh of stalking him in the US, while at the same time claiming he lived overseas during the time period the stalking happened?
Fascinating. I am sure this will go somewhere.

 

[Sneed Force One]

Hardin wants Judge to kill the case outright.

Russ is panicking, audibly angry, saying Josh lives overseas and says Josh has been stalking him for eight years. Says the defendant directed his conduct towards him in Utah, so the case belongs in the state.

Russ passionately pleas with the court that Josh stalks "everyone". Judge Bennett is still unimpressed. Says Russ's filings are consistently incorrect and reckless.

He is taking Rule 11 under advisement.

 

[Clovis]

lol, bennett: "When you make representations recklessly..."

 

[Hoi Polloi]

I just closed zoom and gave up. If he lets more people in at any point I'm going to end up drunk staring at the meme image of mining for diamonds.

The view count has done nothing but decrease, nobody else will be joining.


>if we pursue legal action we need to do it according to the law, your assertions need to be correct and based in precedent

 

[Pedophobe]

Greer admits he has messed up stuff but nothing that "makes the case unwinnable". Tries to bring up the underlying claim. Judge explains to Greer that his representations don't have to be perfect but have to be appropriate and realistic.

 

[Complete Reprobate]

Rule 11 sanctions - ECF 234

TAYLOR TIME -

Greer - I had not spoken to him in a few years. Learned he was dead earlier this year.

Hardin - No due diligence has been done. Hardin leaning in on the Taylor death. Talking about Taylor being a central reason as to why the Florida/Utah transfer happened. Recapping the witness debacle with Taylor. Laying into Greer about stupid filings.

Greer - Hardin latches onto 'individual words, not entire arguement.' Talking about Moon living overseas, Hardin hasn't said wether or not Josh still lives in FLA. The Greers were ready to testify, but then they later said 'I have nothing to offer.' You're latching onto Steve Taylor!

Bennett - Taking the Rule 11 sanctions under advisement.

Hardin - Minimum sanctions - atty's fees relating to Taylor. Sanctions should be terminating the case. No where for this case to go.

Greer - Moon needs to provide a FLA address. The problem is I don't know where he lives. Defendents have prejudiced me in Utah, therefore case is in Utah. THE COURT NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS CONDUCT.

Bennett - We need to pursue legal action according to the law. Arguements need to be rooted in fact and investigation. Take under advisement rule 11.b sanctions.

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

Appropriate sanctions incoming.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Sanctions - Rule 60b. Is for final judgment only not duscovery/ 60b is not appropriate way to do this. However will liberally construe Rule 37. Doc relevance - was about copyright/defenses, but this not that. Based on 37a5 - failure to disclose is egregious so too bad.

Hardin - Greer said he had an RO. Greer interrupted, got shot down. Hardin has documentation RO was denied but hasnt seen underlying allegations. Got nothing from Greer but a public records request denial. Hardin then has case number but didn't get evidence of granted RO so Greer has not complied with motion to compel. Court said thanks, I did not know that. Now is asking Greer wtf. Greer said I told Hardin on the phone I didn't gave access. "Bizarrely " someone then asked for docs thru public request so Greer thinks it means someone was listening. Greer said he never said he had an RO, probably fat phone fingers. CT asked why he doesn't even have access to own court records. Greer said phone had no room abd Hardin never asked again. CT criticizing Greer for not trying to get docs - "of concern" to court/ why haven't you asked court for it. Greer: he didn't ask. CT - he filed a motion! Greer / I forgot to reply. CT - you got notice couldn't access via motion to compel. "Help me understand what I'm missing.". Greer / I'm sorry and also not relevant. CT: you're all wrong and missed chance to argue relevance - by months. CT thought Greer was trying but haven't even tried. Not acceptable. 14 days to get the case file, mark confidential and give to Hardin. Also CT: if that shows up online there will be contempt sanctions.

Attys fees: reserved ruling on rule 37. 21 days for Hardin to call status conf. Hardin does not agree to Greer version of facts. CT- OK but Greer needs to produce docs. If he just doesn't feel like it we're talking case-ending sanctions.

Rule 11 - Steve Taylor. Hardin setting record straight on Greer-Taylor interaction. CT- why say Taylor eager if hadn't talked in years. Greer: listed everyone, should have made sure he was alive before saying that. Lol. Hardin - Greer responded to something else but either way fails bc no dye diligence. Rule 11 is objective - statement caused prejudice. CT - let's talk prejudice. Tell me more. Hardin - G moved to go back to Utah bc Steve Taylor needed to testify. Transfer transferred after that tho not specifically on that basis. Then G disclosed different witnesses, we pursued, G said no to those and had no other witnesses. H tried to find Taylor, motion for adverse inference. Then G mentioned falling out so even more relevant. Can't find him, then finds out dead from G. Is prejudicial to case and legal system and G's plaintiff behavior so sanctionable. G: H latches onto words I say and not entire argument. No prejudice bc Josh doesn't live in FL abd hasn't for a long time. H hasn't said where J lives so not prejudicial. As for ST I misspoke. Unaware dead but dad/bro said would testify. But once back to UT, said they had nothing to offer. G to bro: you jerk. Included those text messages! They're latching onto ST. CT: will take rule 11 under advisement and issue written order. CT goes through analysis will use, asks Hardin for input on what sanctions should be. H - tough question. Minimum: attys' fees Re ST but...missed the rest due to audio problem. G - Josh needs to provide address. G - Josh is a menace, must stop him. CT - understand why pursuing legal action but must do per law. Can't lie to the court, need some basis/ investigation. So that's crux of rule 11 issue. Will issue order.

 

[YouTube Autist]

"There's something seriously wrong with this person!" - Russell Greer

In reference to whom, Null?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Rule 11 order will be issued when the Judge is ready

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Motion to stay is GRANTED until the court can decide on the motion to dismiss

 

[Gobermental Supervisor]

Says something is wrong with Null, the court should stop Null, and that's why Russ sued Null

Hey, wait a second.
That is the Karl Jobst playbook he used to take down Billy "The King" Mitchell!

"someone has to stop him" lol

 

[Harvey Danger]

Says something is wrong with Null, the court should stop Null, and that's why Russ sued Null

@Null please confirm, is something wrong with you?

 

[MaduroHunter]

are we winning or losing?

 

[Quioui]

GROUNZ

(STAY until the court consider the motion to Dismiss)