Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

[StinkySnack]

Greer: BIZAAARRELLYY

 

[Sneed Force One]

Oh this is satisfying, Greer is not being tardwrangled, Greer is being tardpunished

 

[Hoi Polloi]

Oh shit Greer is blowing the whole lid on the Jim Jorton Wiretap Conspiracy

 

[WelperHelper99]

Holy shit Greer, annunciate! Fucking drooling retard.

 

[BelUwUga]

Greer is now claiming he thinks his phone call with Hardin was being listened to by a third party.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Greer trying to explain. It sounds awful.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Russ asserts a conspiracy that Jim Jorton spied on Mr. Hardin's communications with Russ

 

[4090 Chad]

"Error on my phone", god what a lying faggot.

 

[DavidS877]

I apologize for the redundancy likely in this post.

Present: 168
Judge Bennett: chose a daring style choice in a black robe from his office. Blue bow tie.
Mr Hardin: On video.
Mr Greer: Present, audio only.
Joshua Moon: Present, appears to be audio only.

Hardin agrees that Bennett cannot change the original sanctions.

Bennett: 60b is not proper for a discovery sanction. Will liberally construe 243. This is a copyright case. But this document is not relevant to copyright.

Hardin: Greer said he had a restraining order. Now have a copy of a court order saying a restraining order was denied. No copy of a restraining order. Wants copy of the underlying allegations. Greer sent nothing except the public records request denial. JIM JORTON

Bennett: Thanks for the clarity. What did you provide?

Greer: I told Mr Hardin I did not have access to these documents. Blaming Jim Jorton. Thinks that someone was listening on his phone call when he told Hardin the case number. It was probably an error when I said there was a restraining order. That's the honest truf.

Bennett: Why don't you have access to your own court documents?

Greer: I have limited storage on my phone and I'm too retarded to file with the Utah court with a copy.

Bennett: It's your case file, you can go to the court and ask for it. The fact that you haven't even tried that is of concern to me. I don't understand why you haven't asked the court yet.

Greer: Hardin didn't say anything.

Bennett: He filed a motion to compel. That's a pretty good sign you knew he didn't get it.

Greer: I failed. I am sincerely sorry. It has no relevance to this case. (Greer's phone alerts are apparently not muted.)

Bennett: Since you ignored the motion you can't claim it's not relevance. It was months ago. That's not acceptable. Greer has 14 days to get a copy and send it to Hardin as marked confidential. Now you know how the SPO works. We'll see what happens. Hardin within 21 days provide a status report on what was received or not what was received. If they're not produced we're going to have to reconvene and discuss 37b sanctions.


Bennett: Rule 11 sanctions, ECF 234. Greer said he had witnesses. Taylor "Eager to testify" but is dead.

Bennett: Why did you say "Eager" if you hadn't talked to him.

Greer: Listing everyone who he had talked to about the case. No idea he was dead until earlier this year.

Hardin: Objective standard under rule 11. Unreasonable to say they're Eager if you haven't talked to them in month.

Bennett: Why was this prejudicial.

Hardin: ND Fl. Need to go to back to UT so Taylor could testify. But ND Fl did transfer. Started returning to UT. Disclosed 2 witnesses. Not himself. Called no other witnesses. Said he had no other witnesses. Seemed he was hiding Steve Taylor. Greer said there was a falling out. Greer said he had a falling out. Adverse inference filed. Greer said he was dead. We had no idea he was dead. Prejudicial to case and legal system. "Pops off at the mouth or the pen and just files things"

Greer: Hardin will latch on to individual words. There is no prejudice. Moon didn't live in FL. Hardin did not say where Moon lived. About Taylor "I misspoke". Other Greers said they would testify. Then he talked to them and confirmed they had nothing to offer. Told brother "I look like a liar now"

Bennett: Take rule 11 under advisement. Issue a written order.

B: How do we solve this. Hardin: what and why.

H: I asked for appropriate sanctions. Minimum: expenses relating to Steve Taylor. Doesn't unring the bell. Case on a bad track. I think it should be terminated. He has no witnesses, case on an incredibly bad track.

G: I have written evidence Moon lives overseas. I need Moon's address. I can't do anything else. Now tries to argue that Moon's conduct is directed at Utah. Something is seriously wrong with this person(Moon). He does this to many people.

B: Cuts him off. We have to do legal action according to law. When you make representations to the court, they have to be correct. It has to be reasonable under the circumstances. When we make accusations recklessly and then go through the process and people spend time and money therein lies the problem. That's what I have to address in the Rule 11. Will look at both parts of Rule 11 and possible appropriate sanctions.

B: ECF 245 stay until served. Grant until motion to dismiss is dealt with.

H: Our position is that they weren't disclosed and had no discoverable information based on Greer's previous thingy.

G: Does not oppose. Untrue to say they don't have any discoverable information. Trying to figure out how to serve these people. Will file a subpoena.

H: Greer says he disclosed everyone he could think of. Suddenly he says. these people have discoverable information even though they were never disclosed. Coming in late, amending a complaint and trying to change the narrative.

B: Let's move forward. We need to address this broader point. 26e does not require 26a when it's already known. Moon is the named defendant.

H: I think at the moment you're going to see a future motion.

B: Not opposed to motion to stay. Motion to stay granted until dismiss is adjudicated.

B: Bonded stay. Rules say "Judgement" referring to a final judgement. 62b bond. Appeal of entire case. Not an interlocutory sanction order. He can ask Judge Barlow to stay the payment. Bennett cannot stay the order. Improper under 62b, but can ask Barlow.

G: Yes your honor, I understand.

B: 253 258 IFP. 258 is alternative to 253. Let's talk 253: Greer represents he can pay sanction but unwilling. Hardin says Greer should then pay filing fees. Greer can you pay.

G: Yes I can pay $400. Hardin focuses on all of these little things. Not sure how IFP applies to copyright infringement.

B: IFP does have little to do with copyright. Congress allows IFP if they meet a threshold. Filing fee must be pay else. If you can afford the fees, then pay within 30 days or case will be dismissed.

G: Ok.

B: Can you maintain your support.

G: What

B: Rent, etc

G: Yes.

B: Ordered within 30 days. 258 is moot if or not dismissed.

14 days for Greer to send document
21 days for Hardin status on that
discovery everything stayed.
251 denied without prejudice
briefing on motions to dismiss
Greer to pay fees.
228 moot, per order Barlow
243 open pending status

B: Anything further.

H: No

G: Appreciate your time

Spoiler: Popcorn Status/Random Thoughts

Cooked, pan is cooled to not melt my desk. Tastes good. Probably not enough. Not nearly enough.

I should have actually put this on my big projector screen for maximum horror.

 

[Useful_Mistake]

Judge asks why Russ can't get documents he himself has filed

 

[Dizzyuntildeath]

I don't keep record!
That old chestnut.

 

[Uncle Buck]

Shut up dan smith!

It's actually Dan Mullen pretending to be "Dan Smith".

 

[LikeAStone 2.0]

I’m confused on the situation, so is it that Greer is so bad at handling the law that they called everyone in to to clear it up or to reprimand Greer?

 

[Avenue]

I hate it when my phone autocorrects "restraining order"

 

[Complete Reprobate]

PHONE STORAGE

 

[God's strongest milkman]

I guess secondhand descriptions will just have to be good enough.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Greer is a PARALEGAL. Null, Get Hardin to point out Greer has a degree as a Paralegal. He SHOULD know how to get court records. FFS.

 

[Pascal's Wagie]

Can't listen in. Please keep up the reputation of good notes. And behave, boys.

 

[Pedophobe]

Greer claims a mistake on his phone may have lead to people thinking he claimed he had a restraining order against Null. He says he doesn't know how to access the court documents relating to this.

Judge explains that he could have just asked the Utah state court for these docs. Wants Greer to explain why he didn't do that. Greer seems to be saying he thinks that was Hardin's job to do.

 

[neger psykolog]

That is Greer, who is allowed to speak. He called in by phone using his real phone number.

I don't see what all the fuss is about. This guy sounds like he could be a great mod for A&H. Can we get a K-farmer special invite for him?