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Should be a wild four years.

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tbh after all the clot shot bullshit I've been wondering about tobacco / nicotine really being bad or if it's just cigarettes that are the problem
my pet schizo theory is like how caffeinated coffee was OBVIOUSLY why ulcers happen, but then just before they invented coffee milkshakes to shove more corn syrup into America it was suddenly found to be not coffee at all behind them
its cigs and inhalation. Pipe smokers had no great reduction in life expectancy the last time the FDA did a specific study on it. The vast majority of pipe smokers and most cigar smokers do not inhale.

Pipe smoking is all about the taste and smell and not getting a huge nic hit.
 
Was he? I think you may be referring to the immigration court that denied him the right to stay citing the report from the police officer about him being MS-13.
This decision was appealed, and the judge confirmed the previous ruling, once again citing that the source of "he is ms-13" to be trustworthy.

Afaik there were no investigations about him being MS-13. Someone mentioned trafficking (for which I haven't seen evidence - not dismissing it, just saying idk), and another is the initial police contact (we have the police report, which I posted in the other thread) where he was hanging out with confirmed MS-13 members. In this report the officer also reports that a trusted (anonymous) source confirmed he is MS-13 as well.

I believe he is MS-13 (or at least wannabe gangbanger), but I don't agree with saying random shit.
If you have a source for the "two investigations" please go ahead and prove me wrong.
I posted the evidence, i couldn't directly reply to your request due to a bug, but i tagged you. Give it a read.

 
MS-13 is out in the weeds

He's an illegal, that's all we need to know

Illegals are not entitled to be in the US. Period. Everything else is special pleading by the left because they want to normalize the idea of infinite free instant migration. I.e., fully open borders.
 
He doesn't immediately make you recoil upon viewing him. He's made some attempts to conceal his gang tattoos (although I heard it suggested the leftists tried to airbrush his tattoos down too in those propaganda photos). He's an uwu poor widdle bwown pppl wot just does his job and only commits some crime.

Again, remember that the foundational assumption the left is attempting to normalize is that he's allowed to be here even though he arrived illegally. That citizenship and immigration processes, policies, and laws are outdated. After all, we're just an Economic Zone and everyone in the world is entitled to be here.
GOD, hearing us being referred to as the term 'Economic Zone' just makes me want to puke. I'm not even kidding, I feel physically ill.
 
I love how everyone forgets these Palestinian faggots popularized blowing up airplanes, nightclubs, resteraunts, and hijacking ships so they can throw old men in wheelchairs overboard.

Anyone who tries to deflect by tossing out the Kikes or what the fuck ever, has sided with these rebranded PLO faggots and should be put down right before everyone moves on.

Palestinians are natural terrorists and only understand someone standing on their neck and pushing a gun barrel into their ear.

Anyone who carries water for them is a terrorist supporting faggot who needs beaten with a rock.
It's less that people love the Palestinians and more that Isreal is a rabid dog that doesn't know when to stop or stand down.

No one reasonable gives a fuck if the 60 IQ violent subhumans known as Palestinians get eradicated. What should concern everyone is that once Isreal does so they will attack either Iran or Saudi Arabi potentially triggering WWIII and that's everyone's problem.
 
In your quest to hate Jews, you enable Muslims. That is like people who jerk off to lolicon
This made me laugh out loud. :story:
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Also, before anyone spergs out, that's just an example.
Yeah, a retarded one.

Chop Top's point was that he doesn't really care for either team and doesn't feel like picking sides and yet here you are saying he is picking the side of the muslims by not picking the side of the jews, even accusing him of thinking Muslims are good (lmao), thereby proving his initial claim that people seem to have forgotten that you do not need to pick sides.

You really should've taken that nap half an hour ago.
 
I posted the evidence, i couldn't directly reply to your request due to a bug, but i tagged you. Give it a read.
I have found and read that article already, I don't consider it a reliable source. There is too much shit flinging from everywhere on this. I am trying to find the court filings or other type of official document.

There is one article in a .gov website that mentions "trafficking", but nothing more concrete than that. I am not saying it didn't happen, just that I am not going to believe based on that.

Overall, all the additional background info is really just to laugh at how bad the DNC and journalists are messing things up with their new victim-darling.
The main issue is that he was an illegal, with a deportation order. He was deported. The end.
 
He's brown, I don't think you realize the extent to which progressives worship non whites. A lot of religious people worship their actual Gods with less fervor and revelance.
I am very familiar with their bizarre white man's burden mindset. I'm just wondering out of ALL the immigrants Trump deported, they go all in on the gangbanger with a record. I have met illegal immigrants, some of them are very nice people who would make for a much more sympathetic protagonist of a human interest news story than this degenerate.
 
I am very familiar with their bizarre white man's burden mindset. I'm just wondering out of ALL the immigrants Trump deported, they go all in on the gangbanger with a record. I have met illegal immigrants, some of them are very nice people who would make for a much more sympathetic protagonist of a human interest news story than this degenerate.
Think they latched onto him, at least initially, because of that whole "mistakenly deported" aspect of his story.
 
I have found and read that article already, I don't consider it a reliable source. There is too much shit flinging from everywhere on this. I am trying to find the court filings or other type of official document.

There is one article in a .gov website that mentions "trafficking", but nothing more concrete than that. I am not saying it didn't happen, just that I am not going to believe based on that.

Overall, all the additional background info is really just to laugh at how bad the DNC and journalists are messing things up with their new victim-darling.
The main issue is that he was an illegal, with a deportation order. He was deported. The end.
 
This made me laugh out loud. :story:
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Yeah, a retarded one.

Chop Top's point was that he doesn't really care for either team and doesn't feel like picking sides and yet here you are saying he is picking the side of the muslims by not picking the side of the jews, even accusing him of thinking Muslims are good (lmao), thereby proving his initial claim that people seem to have forgotten that you do not need to pick sides.

You really should've taken that nap half an hour ago.
I don’t think “I’m not picking sides” is real most of the time. Maybe your side is just a feeling, maybe it’s an aesthetic decision that you know isn’t going to win an argument on the internet. That’s all fine, though.

But most of the time when someone’s on the internet talking about something, they have an opinion about it, and pretending they don’t is being evasive
 
There is one article in a .gov website that mentions "trafficking", but nothing more concrete than that.
Would be funny if they are withholding that info intentionally just to let the opposition dig that hole even deeper, before getting buried in it when they reveal that he is actually a confirmed MS-13 member who was trafficking his colleagues into Florida when he was arrested.

Please god let this be the case because it would be so fucking funny.
 
It's incredibly infuriating how my friend has bought into the narrative that this piece of shit is a 'poor citizen mistakenly deported to some random country'
And the thing about it is it's not even a narrative, it's blatant misinformation

In your quest to hate Jews, you enable Muslims. That is like people who jerk off to lolicon and don't understand how that creates a culture which enables real predators. Also, before anyone spergs out, that's just an example. I am in no way, shape, or form accusing Chop Top of that gross shit.

I will "old man yells at cloud" as much as I please. At least you're right that I need a nap.
If your stance on the Israel/Palestine issue is anything besides "I hope they nuke each other into oblivion" and you're not a normie then you're a fucking faggot
 
People are acting like that El Salvadorian faggot was a prominent doctor or physicist or something. He cut hair part time at an unlicensed salon and collected welfare benefits.

Wow what a valuable citizen and American hero.
Lol, what about the other guy? He worked in manufacturing. You MAGA faggots can't even feign that you give a shit about blue-collar workers or reshoring manufacturing from China.
 
Think they latched onto him, at least initially, because of that whole "mistakenly deported" aspect of his story.
And out of all the people we deported so far, he was the only one with the order not to return to his home country?

The odd indefinite order to not return him to El Salvador due to concerns about gang violence and weird human trafficking thing in Tennessee where Biden's FBI had them drop the case is getting my noggin jogging...

Is this guy a fed asset, like an informat or simply a goon doing shady stuff on their behalf? Could explain why he got all this special treatment.
 
Trump Silences Gun Control Talk After FSU Shooting: 'The Gun Doesn't Do the Shooting; The People Do' (archive)

Article includes these quotes from Trump:
“Look, I’m a big advocate of the Second Amendment. I have been from the beginning. I’ve protected it,” Trump said.
“These things are terrible. But the gun doesn’t do the shooting; the people do,” he pointed out.
“I have an obligation to protect the Second Amendment,” the president added. “I will always protect the Second Amendment.”


I'm glad he's taking a stronger 2A stance this administration.
 
Luffy met with the people of Skypiea (or Samoa) and signed EO for greater fishing access, was also seen as Nika The Sun God:

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More should be brought up about how Chynese fishing is destroying sustainability and ruining the entire operation, they send fleets out who suck up everything like it's a Captain Planet strawman villain and the environments can't replenish. It's going to be a serious issue.


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Senator Faggot in El Salvador looks like a hot dog thrown down a whore's hallway:

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For some levity, dumb liberal gets kicked out of restaurant in VA after yelling at MAGA couple, her boyfirend has some gay ass Magic the Gathering ponytail:

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Not sure how I feel about the seafood EO tbh, but I will admit that whatever we do, it will be better than China and allows us to prevent China from fishing in our borders.
 
But most of the time when someone’s on the internet talking about something, they have an opinion about it, and pretending they don’t is being evasive
I don’t think “I’m not picking sides” is real most of the time
You are conflating "having an opinion" with "supporting one side over the other".

Maybe I can have an opinion on a conflict without picking a side in that conflict. That'd be pretty nutso, who knows if humans are able to have that much nuance?
What's next? Not liking the Israeli Government and Mossad, but without putting the collective blame on every single jew?

... No, I think that's a bit too crazy even for me.
 
Well, we are heading to SCOTUS at a breakneck speed, as the 4th Circuit decided to go entirely off the rails in their latest filing. They denied Trump's motion to stay proceedings pending appeal, and said some truly insane shit. Starting with some free praise for the insane district judge.
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Followed up by a complete misstatement of the case history and basic facts:
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As we discussed, Garcia was never a resident and received ample due process in an immigration court and an appeals court. He's had more than his share.
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I'm starting to think this judges haven't even read the file. These issues were already adjudicated by the immigration courts, who have jurisdiction. Orders of withholding are at the discretion of the Executive, as are Foreign Terrorist Designations. These are not re-viewable by the District court.
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First, one attorney (since fired for incompetence) in an initial oral proceeding, does not the position of the government make. Secondly, Garcia is a foreign citizen in the custody of his home nation. The US Government and especially this court has zero jurisdiction. None, zilch, zero, nope, nada, can't do it.
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The context of facilitate this court claims it isn't bound by is the context of the legal term of art in the immigration context. You can't take the term of art from its context, then try to replace it with a different meaning and shove that meaning into the context. Even if you tried, facilitate is not proactive or external, it is complimentary to the actions of another. If I am getting a couch delivered to me, I can facilitate that delivery by sharing my phone number with the furniture store, being home at time of delivery, opening the door, taking up the rug, etc. This is different from me driving to their warehouse and loading it in my truck itself - that would be effectuating, ie to make it happen.

In the immigration context the term of art facillitate means that, if an illegal were to say present himself at the border, ICE/DHS would allow them entry for the purpose of showing up at their hearings and not put up any barriers to this. It does not include sending planes to whatever country they are in, or sending Seal Team Six to bust them out of a foreign prison.
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No shit, thats what you're doing now.
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Here we see how crazy they are; the means, the laws, are made by CONGRESS. The judiciary does not get to make up laws and legislate from the bench, but this court think they are able to do so. Insane.
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I can't tell if I'm reading a court opinion or some puff piece from CNN. There was due process, there was no valid order preventing this deportation. No process involved with Garcia could be used on an American citizen, period. This is just hysterical attempts at gaslighting.
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This is ridiculous on its face. A sovereign nation has no responsibility to extradite its citizens to a foreign nation. And likewise the US has no right to demand they do so. Even so, for such matters as criminal extradition, those are party to treaties which are the sole purview of other government branches - not the courts.

Further, Garcia does have recourse of law - in El Salvador, where he is a citizen and currently held!
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:smug:"Dude we just ignored all the facts, all the law, and acted like you're our bitch that has to do whatever we say. We just ordered you to invade another country and snatch up a terrorist gang member to let loose on the citizens. Like bro, why are you mad?"
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This part is especially rich. Who is going to end up with egg on their face, the executive trying to keep illegal invader gang bangers out of the community, or the justices pitching bitch fits and throwing tantrums with gavel banging histrionics?

Roberts needs to borrow some balls from Thomas, and start smacking down these district courts. This is insane.
 

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